Preview Hawks vs Freo - prematch chat in here

[Mercy Seat]

Okay, I'll say it: Suckling out!

Saves some of you some megabytes

After he kicked the winner last night? No chance!

 

[Mercy Seat]

Based on having had skin cancers removed myself I doubt the Rough will be back next week. Maybe for the Shitney game.

Min 3-4 weeks they said today on radio...

 

[Pessimistic]

Schoey is an interesting one. Lots of positives and negatives. One thing he did was compete all night. Gets to good spots instinctively, and can often get into space on the flanks (although we didn't seem to play through them in this role as much as we could've).
He seems a bit lost on the high ball and seems to run too far under the ball, rather than protecting the space in front of him and then taking the mark out in front. Also seems to be a little conscious of his defender too much when the ball is in the air, rather than just playing the ball so he seems to be just a fraction late establishing marking position. This might be because he has spent so much time as a defender over the last few years.
Even on the goal he kicked he almost led himself under the ball.
That being said, his second and third efforts were fantastic all night when the ball hit the ground.
Showed enough I think to keep his spot while Rough is out and if he can develop a bit more timing over the next few weeks he may give us more flexibility for Rough in the middle.

Ironically I did see a little too much instinctive defensiveness the other night

as for freo a lot hinges on what players, or game they bring. It seems to be so tough to get from Freo to Launceston. Mars would be slightly easier

They may want to return as well as possible from the H&A simply to beat west coast on the ladder

 

[caseman2]

Don't understand the calls for litherland to come back in, has been abysmal when coming in this year. Stratton very down on form, probably lucky Fremantle play a small-mid sized forward line.

 

[caseman2]

I must have been watching a different game Friday night - I would have had Stratton in our best. Was Elliot the sub? Did He play? Was he sighted? Actually he was - on the bench when Bucks was giving him a feel good cuddle!
He may not be offering as much offensively this year but gee he has nailed some lock down jobs. Would love to see him get Walters - and Doc to Ballantyne to do the job just like he did on Betts.

ps - those calling for Birchall to be dropped, rested, ommitted - it really is embarrassing.

 

[Bikefreak]

I must have been watching a different game Friday night - I would have had Stratton in our best. Was Elliot the sub? Did He play? Was he sighted? Actually he was - on the bench when Bucks was giving him a feel good cuddle!
He may not be offering as much offensively this year but gee he has nailed some lock down jobs. Would love to see him get Walters - and Doc to Ballantyne to do the job just like he did on Betts.

ps - those calling for Birchall to be dropped, rested, ommitted - it really is embarrassing.

Yep...Birch has missed a bit of footy this year.
He goes about the job in such a way that I reckon some of the doubters would be surprised at how many possessions he gets even when it looks like he is having a quiet one. He does have the odd clanger or two.
But cant wait to see him back to his dangerous best, streaming through the middle to take a shot from 55-60m out.....and nailing it.

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[brew]

I must have been watching a different game Friday night - I would have had Stratton in our best. Was Elliot the sub? Did He play? Was he sighted? Actually he was - on the bench when Bucks was giving him a feel good cuddle!
He may not be offering as much offensively this year but gee he has nailed some lock down jobs. Would love to see him get Walters - and Doc to Ballantyne to do the job just like he did on Betts.

ps - those calling for Birchall to be dropped, rested, ommitted - it really is embarrassing.

It's just the poor kicks that stick in the mind of some.

When Hill makes the same amount of errors by foot it's not as obvious because he gets the pill 20-25 times.

 

[Davo23]

I must have been watching a different game Friday night - I would have had Stratton in our best. Was Elliot the sub? Did He play? Was he sighted? Actually he was - on the bench when Bucks was giving him a feel good cuddle!
He may not be offering as much offensively this year but gee he has nailed some lock down jobs. Would love to see him get Walters - and Doc to Ballantyne to do the job just like he did on Betts.

ps - those calling for Birchall to be dropped, rested, ommitted - it really is embarrassing.

Good post.

But you're very harsh on Elliott, he was hindered by a bad case of tattooitis.
And overrateditis.

 

[badgrill]

Min 3-4 weeks they said today on radio...

Maybe back for Tigers or Eagles I guess? But of course it depends on him getting the big All Clear first

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Gotta win 1 of the next 2 against Freo and Sydney.

 

[Thaihawk]

Gotta win 1 of the next 2 against Freo and Sydney.

Why not both? We are capable, if we play our best.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Why not both? We are capable, if we play our best.

Oh no doubt we are a chance in any game we play and both is required if we want top 2, i was just talking about minimum requirement in regards to top 4.

 

[wallyt99]

ps - those calling for Birchall to be dropped, rested, ommitted - it really is embarrassing.

Can't see why. He was slow and out of position on numerous occasions. 0 tackles for the game when the ball came in the defensive 50 an awful lot.

I just think 1 gamein the VFL.will be better for both him and the team.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Can't see why. He was slow and out of position on numerous occasions. 0 tackles for the game when the ball came in the defensive 50 an awful lot.

I just think 1 gamein the VFL.will be better for both him and the team.

Birchall shouldn't and won't be dropped.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Get the feeling from afar that Ross won't be sending his A-team over for this one....Can't see the point of sending vets in Pav & Saandi to Tassie; when Freo have the luxury of dropping this game without it affecting their standing....We will also have a 2 days break advantage over them 9/7, before they play Carlton a mere 6 days later.

Their only other 'tough' games thereafter is a home derby vs W/C & an away trip to the M.C.G against the Tigers.

 

[moginie]

Against a side missing Silvagni, Johnson & Dawson at a venue where they've won 1 game, nine years ago by a point, makes things look pretty good for us on paper.

But as we all know, games aren't won on paper & I can't really see Fremantle doing a version of what they did in 2010. There will always be doubts about Fremantle playing away from home so I reckon they'll come at us all guns blazing.

We need to be really well prepared & switched on from the start. Hartung for Spangher would be the only change I'd consider & even then I'm not totally convinced. Langers looks better when he's just scrapping in the middle. Maybe he'll have first go at Fyfe.

 

[threesixpio]

IN: Hartung

OUT: Schoenmakers



B: Stratton, Lake, Duryea

HB: Birchall, Spangher, Gibson

C: Hill, Mitchell, Smith

HF: Burgoyne, Gunston, Rioli

F: Puopolo, Hale, Breust

R: Ceglar, Hodge, Lewis

INT: Shiels, Hartung, Langford, Suckling

Need a tall in the forward 50. No way no Shoey (whether permitting)

 

[Thaihawk]

Get the feeling from afar that Ross won't be sending his A-team over for this one....Can't see the point of sending vets in Pav & Saandi to Tassie; when Freo have the luxury of dropping this game without it affecting their standing....We will also have a 2 days break advantage over them 9/7, before they play Carlton a mere 6 days later.

Their only other 'tough' games thereafter is a home derby vs W/C & an away trip to the M.C.G against the Tigers.

Agree Pc35. It seems almost impossible for them to lose top spot, so why not give his aging start a rest.

On a side note, what happens in September if Freo and Eagles finish 1 & 2?

Surely, they wouldn't have two finals in Perth on the same weekend. Would they? Would they make it 1 v 2, and 3 v 4? If $hitney finish 3rd, we might only get the alsorans playing in Melbourne for the first week.

I wonder if they A.F.L has any contingency play for if this were to happen.

We will save them the embarrassment by finishing second.

I know this is off subject, but you're the man with knowledge and ideas, so I thought I'd drop this here.

 

[threesixpio]

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Gee Pav is looking old these days

 

[WWSD]

How many games in a row have we won at aurora since our last loss?

 

[threesixpio]

Against a side missing Silvagni, Johnson & Dawson at a venue where they've won 1 game, nine years ago by a point, makes things look pretty good for us on paper.

But as we all know, games aren't won on paper & I can't really see Fremantle doing a version of what they did in 2010. There will always be doubts about Fremantle playing away from home so I reckon they'll come at us all guns blazing.

We need to be really well prepared & switched on from the start. Hartung for Spangher would be the only change I'd consider & even then I'm not totally convinced. Langers looks better when he's just scrapping in the middle. Maybe he'll have first go at Fyfe.

Remember that Sydney game in 2012 in Tassie? That's what I fear.

 

[Steven Tyler]

How many games in a row have we won at aurora since our last loss?

Swans in 2012 was our last loss in Tassie

 

[WWSD]

Swans in 2012 was our last loss in Tassie

I know, I mean how many games have we won in a row.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Agree Pc35. It seems almost impossible for them to lose top spot, so why not give his aging start a rest.

On a side note, what happens in September if Freo and Eagles finish 1 & 2?

Surely, they wouldn't have two finals in Perth on the same weekend. Would they? Would they make it 1 v 2, and 3 v 4? If $hitney finish 3rd, we might only get the alsorans playing in Melbourne for the first week.

I wonder if they A.F.L has any contingency play for if this were to happen.

We will save them the embarrassment by finishing second.

I know this is off subject, but you're the man with knowledge and ideas, so I thought I'd drop this here.

Why wouldn't they have 2 finals in WA on the same weekend?
1 on Friday night, 1 on Saturday night
Happens in Vic all the time

 

[Procrastinator35]

On a side note, what happens in September if Freo and Eagles finish 1 & 2?

Surely, they wouldn't have two finals in Perth on the same weekend. Would they? Would they make it 1 v 2, and 3 v 4? If $hitney finish 3rd, we might only get the alsorans playing in Melbourne for the first week.

I wonder if they A.F.L has any contingency play for if this were to happen.

West Coast, by comparison to Freo, have a very tough run home Thai: Adel, Syd, Haw & Freo to come at home & Coll & Adel away....They have next to no chance of finishing in 2nd spot.

Their next 5 weeks is the toughest of the lot.

Remember that Sydney game in 2012 in Tassie? That's what I fear.

Got em back on their turf but....Though it all amounted to & counted for nufin come finals time....Thanks to the fat ******* cheating VLAD