Lions vs Cats vs Hawks - Which dynasty is the best?

[HODGEYROAD]

...and Hawthorn has that over the Lions.

If the Lions are ahead of Hawthorn there is no grounds for the Cats to be in this conversation

I'm also unsure why 2008 is not included in the conversation

No club will probably ever win 4 flags (and qualify for 5 GFs) again

I think the Poll tells a story clearly Hawthorn in the lead.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Hahahah A land of delusion.... 3 flags is 3 flags well then 4 flags is more than 3 flags.

Yea but you missed the finals in 09 taking away that period of 'sustained success' from the equation.

 

[Hawkk]

Nope.

3 flags is 3 flags no matter which way you want to spin it.

Geelong didn't need reasonably high draft picks or concessions, and certainly didn't need to poach the majority of their players from other clubs to achieve their dynasty.

They also weren't afforded the luxury of playing an interstate side on the MCG 3 times... We played sides who were dominant in that year.

I'll leave it there though as I'm quite content with my thoughts.

All the best.

3 flags is 3 flags anyway you spin it

...but 4 flags is greater than 3 flags anyway

This s**t is laughable. Hawthorn went 3-1 against the Cats in the only games that mattered. The greatest side of all swuibbed epically against the weakest of the 4 premiership sides

As for the Cats GF opponents you played the worst GF opponent in 20 years in the GF (Port Adelaide - 16/9) as well as two mentally weak football clubs, both with a history of failure (St Kilda and Collingwood)

The only club you played in a GF with a premiership culture was the gane you squibbed and got rolled by Hawthorn. There is no way you can escape that lose...it broke your dynasty before it ever started

The fact that a team who couldn't even b2b ia in this conversation is laughable. Geelong 2007/11 was merely a North Melbourne 1974/78 light

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I think the Poll tells a story clearly Hawthorn in the lead.

Care to enter into a one on one constructive debate on the subject?

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Yea but you missed the finals in 09 taking away that period of 'sustained success' from the equation.

Thats your way of spinning it though as you would say... Basically in the last decade we have 4 flags and you have 3...

 

[Hawkk]

Yea but you missed the finals in 09 taking away that period of 'sustained success' from the equation.

2010 works against the Cats. Went 1-2 in the finals, were absolutely embarassed by Collingwood and spudded up the finals series

So its really Hawthorn 2012-16 v Brisbane 2001-04 v Geelong 2007-09

 

[HODGEYROAD]

08/13/14/15 > 07/09/11

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Thats your way of spinning it though as you would say... Basically in the last decade we have 4 flags and you have 3...

Then you have a blatant disregard for the word 'dynasty.'

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Ok, get back to me when somebody decides to take me up on my offer.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Anyways Ive gotta go to work no time to argue with gutted Geelong fans that Hawthorn just came in and stole their clubs golden era... Even in the Cats Golden era Hawthorn was still superior ******* hilarious.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Then you have a blatant disregard for the word 'dynasty.'

In the true meaning of the word 2010 rules you out also...

 

[Hawkk]

Then you have a blatant disregard for the word 'dynasty.'

FLAG, GF SQUIB, FLAG, PF SQUIB, FLAG

Is no dynasty bro

Adelaide 1997/98 is better than Geelong...just ask Tom Harley

 

[Hawkk]

Anyways Ive gotta go to work no time to argue with gutted Geelong fans that Hawthorn just came in and stole their clubs golden era... Even in the Cats Golden era Hawthorn was still superior ******* hilarious.

...and its not even our greatest era ('75-91)

They are just an inferior football club

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

A few disgruntled and entitled Hawks fans upset at the prospect that Geelong's period was actually better... I understand.

 

[Hawkk]

A few disgruntled and entitled Hawks fans upset at the prospect that Geelong's period was actually better... I understand.

Why have Hawthorn won more flags in the Cats greatest era, an era that is a distant 2nd to the greatest Hawthorn era?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Why have Hawthorn won more flags in the Cats greatest era, an era that is a distant 2nd to the greatest Hawthorn era?

I'm afraid you're interpretation of the word dynasty differs to its actually meaning.

About that offer... Yes or no?

 

[Hawkk]

I'm afraid you're interpretation of the word dynasty differs to its actually meaning.

About that offer... Yes or no?

3 flags in 5 years (without b2b) is no dynasty bro

Your crappy era has all but been forgotten (apart from a handful of hilariously salty Geelong fans)

Your 'era' will rank with North Melbourne 1974/78 and 1994/00...just making up time between the great Hawthorn eras of 1975/91 and 2008/16

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

3 flags in 5 years (without b2b) is no dynasty bro

Your crappy era has all but been forgotten (apart from a handful of hilariously salty Geelong fans)

I take that as a no.

 

[MinerBoy]

Lol.

Lolza

 

[MinerBoy]

And Hawthorn missed the finals the next season thus discounting 08 from any subsequent dynasty talk.

I'm happy to debate anyone on the subject in a constructive fashion... Not from my phone though.

So the better competition that the Cats faced and lost to couldn't even make the finals the next year?

Compelling case you're putting together.

 

[Hawkk]

I take that as a no.

You should take it as a 'yes'

North in the 70s and 90s were great sides though

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Lolza

Good to see you around again my old friend.

Congrats on winning another flag.

 

[Hawkk]

So the better competition that the Cats faced and lost to couldn't even make the finals the next year?

Compelling case you're putting together.

Dont be so disrespectful, that 08 Cats side was the best in its 120 year history.

It couldnt be the 09 Cats who got belted by the Lions (8 goals) of all teams

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Alright, somebody tag me when they have the fortitude to have a constructive one on one debate.

I'll return later when I have access to my computer to hopefully see that somebody has put their hand up.

No trolling. A mature, constructive debate.

Cheers guys.

 

[Hawkk]

Good to see you around again my old friend.

Congrats on winning another flag.

Sandwiched between Hawthorn 1975-91 (7 flags, 11 GF's) and 2008-15 (4 flags, 5 GF's)

You really are the North Melbourne of the 70s and 90s

...although North made 5 successive GFs (the Cats only managed three on the spin) and defeated the Hawks 7 times in games that matter