? North,West Coast,Adelaide to promote AFL in North Sydney/Northern Beaches

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Giantman

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I am an avid expansionist. If the AFL don't get bigger quickly in Sydney they will remain a tin pot outfit primarily located in one Australian city and largely irrelevant to more than half Australia's massively growing population in NSW and Qld. On the back of that statement I make the following comments.

By relocating the venue of only 3 AFL matches per year the AFL could significantly raise the profile of the game in NSW and help boost the efforts of the Swans and GWS in trying to gain a critical mass following of the game in Australia's most important sporting/media market.

Currently there are no matches played North of the harbour.....where the vast majority of well heeled relocated expats from the southern states reside. Inevitably there would be a significant number of West Coast and Adelaide supporters amongst them. They would be the predominate target market. North would be the vehicle and "home" team to play them.

North would play 2 matches every year in North Sydney against Adelaide and West Coast. A further "home" game each season against Gold Coast in Newcastle would be the third game. All 3 clubs would be able to sell club memberships in Sydney. Currently the Eagles and Crows memberships are limited simply by the lack of home ground capacity. Their true supporter base around the country would easily rival any Victorian club. West Coast and Adelaide would play 3 games each year in Sydney..against Swans GWS and North.

North would play 5 including away matches against GWS and Swans. North would be able to sell a 5 game membership package in Sydney. They would effectively have 2 supporter bases (North Melbourne Kangaroos and North Sydney Kangaroos). They would be marketed as the football club playing Australia's iconic game, with Australia's iconic emblem, and based in Australia's two biggest cities. Their logo would feature 2 kangaroos and a subtle reference to the Bridge. While still owned and operated by NMFC their playing brand would be the North Kangaroos. They would continue to play 13 games in Melbourne with all North Melbourne Kangaroos members able to purchase at least an 11 game membership.

If it bombs out North remains as North Melbourne or retreat to Hobart. If it succeeds North have the potential of playing 2 more matches in Sydney. "Home" games against GWS and Swans in Sydney. With success the club would almost certainly be the highest profile club in the AFL and a critical part of the games long term viability.

All I can say to North and the AFL...dare to be different....many people up here are sick of the Swans dominating the AFL scene in Sydney and GWS will struggle for a long time to get many supporters. There is a latent group of AFL fans wanting to see North Sydney get some action.
 
No-ones going to buy that rubbish, not least given it's North that you're proposing - a club with a habit of going to a new city every few years, getting what they can and moving on. People aren't stupid and going to just start blindly following a club just because it has North in their name. Never mind you'd probably piss off their current supporters as well.

First step for Sydney is getting 22 games a year there. A Sydney club playing 3 home games in Canberra isn't a great look.
 

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No, I meant having more than 2 clubs in NSW when you can't even support the 2 you have.
a bit tough, the Swans have a decent following, GWS are a new club that gets thumped most weeks. they are hardly going to have people lining up to watch them
 
Why would North ever do this? The club has tried having second homes in an unviable markets many times before. It sucks.

We've finally found Hobart and it works for us. There's no incentive to get mixed up in NSW/QLD business again.
 
a bit tough, the Swans have a decent following, GWS are a new club that gets thumped most weeks. they are hardly going to have people lining up to watch them

If the Swans were in Vic, there would be people calling for them to be dumped because their 'decent following' was so poor.
 
If the Swans were in Vic, there would be people calling for them to be dumped because their 'decent following' was so poor.
maybe so, but if you compare their following, crowds, membership is decades ahead of any other football club in NSW, soccer & rugby:D
their football related revenue is more than double to the next closest team based in NSW
 
maybe so, but if you compare their following, crowds, membership is decades ahead of any other football club in NSW, soccer & rugby:D
their football related revenue is more than double to the next closest team based in NSW

So we have to compare them to GWS to make them look good, and after 3 decades of funding them up there, I'd hope they'd be 'decades ahead' of a startup team.
 
First step for Sydney is getting 22 games a year there. A Sydney club playing 3 home games in Canberra isn't a great look.
This.
Move the three GWS games from Canberra to Western Sydney and change the name to Western Sydney.
Then you open up a genuine secondary market (Canberra) to Saints/WB/Dees (whoever wants it) and give a club the opportunity to replicate what Hawks have done in Launceston.
This fixes the Giants and one of the poorer Vic clubs.
 

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Venue? No AFL standard stadiums beyond SCG and Spotless (ok, there's ANZ but that's shite and not north of the harbour anyway)

Even if anyone wanted to implement the suggestion (and there's no one who does) where are you going to play the games.
 
I am an avid expansionist. If the AFL don't get bigger quickly in Sydney they will remain a tin pot outfit primarily located in one Australian city and largely irrelevant to more than half Australia's massively growing population in NSW and Qld. On the back of that statement I make the following comments.

By relocating the venue of only 3 AFL matches per year the AFL could significantly raise the profile of the game in NSW and help boost the efforts of the Swans and GWS in trying to gain a critical mass following of the game in Australia's most important sporting/media market.

Currently there are no matches played North of the harbour.....where the vast majority of well heeled relocated expats from the southern states reside. Inevitably there would be a significant number of West Coast and Adelaide supporters amongst them. They would be the predominate target market. North would be the vehicle and "home" team to play them.

North would play 2 matches every year in North Sydney against Adelaide and West Coast. A further "home" game each season against Gold Coast in Newcastle would be the third game. All 3 clubs would be able to sell club memberships in Sydney. Currently the Eagles and Crows memberships are limited simply by the lack of home ground capacity. Their true supporter base around the country would easily rival any Victorian club. West Coast and Adelaide would play 3 games each year in Sydney..against Swans GWS and North.

North would play 5 including away matches against GWS and Swans. North would be able to sell a 5 game membership package in Sydney. They would effectively have 2 supporter bases (North Melbourne Kangaroos and North Sydney Kangaroos). They would be marketed as the football club playing Australia's iconic game, with Australia's iconic emblem, and based in Australia's two biggest cities. Their logo would feature 2 kangaroos and a subtle reference to the Bridge. While still owned and operated by NMFC their playing brand would be the North Kangaroos. They would continue to play 13 games in Melbourne with all North Melbourne Kangaroos members able to purchase at least an 11 game membership.

If it bombs out North remains as North Melbourne or retreat to Hobart. If it succeeds North have the potential of playing 2 more matches in Sydney. "Home" games against GWS and Swans in Sydney. With success the club would almost certainly be the highest profile club in the AFL and a critical part of the games long term viability.

All I can say to North and the AFL...dare to be different....many people up here are sick of the Swans dominating the AFL scene in Sydney and GWS will struggle for a long time to get many supporters. There is a latent group of AFL fans wanting to see North Sydney get some action.

No chance.
No grounds and no need.
 
Venue? No AFL standard stadiums beyond SCG and Spotless (ok, there's ANZ but that's shite and not north of the harbour anyway)

Even if anyone wanted to implement the suggestion (and there's no one who does) where are you going to play the games.
If there is not already, there should be an AFL ground in North Sydney.
 
Bruce Purcer Oval ..... has hosted AFL practice matches, looks like the sort of oval big enough and able to be developed.

North Sydney Oval is to small.

But i would agree with the bulk of the posts, there is no real need to play any extra games in Sydney by non Sydney AFL clubs.

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If the Swans were in Vic, there would be people calling for them to be dumped because their 'decent following' was so poor.
The Swans have had the largest crowds of any sporting team in Sydney every year since 1995. Our average crowds are larger than four Melbourne clubs without any help from "derby" games against other local sides.
 

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