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Don't mind him. We can * MJD off.
Don't mind him. We can * MJD off.
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Nope. He is shite. Just run with Murray and another young guy to see what they have. No more journeymen RBs needed, especially ones that are apparently a dressing room issue. We could always get Blount as well if that is the case.
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Blount is not a locker room issue?
Id sign Blount and lynch next year too
Id sign Blount and lynch next year too
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Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie doesn’t get enough production out of his veteran free agent class
Posted on November 18, 2014 by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
A free agency formula Al Davis had some success with from 2000 through 2002 has failed general manager Reggie McKenzie.
When the Raiders were last relevant, winning division titles from 2000 through 2002, Davis signed players such as Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson and Bill Romanowski who may have been past their prime but still had something to prove.
Other than signing Jets lineman Austin Howard to a five-year, $30 million contract, McKenzie tried the same thing but is 0-10 heading into Thursday night’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
McKenzie signed nine players to deals worth more than $70 million if taken to the maximum. The roll call includes defensive linemen Justin Tuck, LaMarr Woodley, Antonio Smith and wide receiver James Jones, cornerbacks Carlos Rogers and Tarell Brown, running back Maurice Jones-Drew, tackle Donald Penn and guard Kevin Boothe.
They range in age from 29 (Brown) to 33 (Rogers and Smith) and the average age is 31.
Brown and Rogers signed one-year contracts, the rest were structured so they could be released after a single season with no effect on the 2015 salary cap.
ESPN analyst Bill Polian, the former general manager of the Baltimore Colts, believes free agency has more pitfalls than benefits.
“You have essentially `B’ players whose agents are looking for `A’ money,” Polian said in a phone interview earlier this season. “That is not the best of buys. Then, when a player changes teams, systems and locale, he’s going to have an adjustment period. Football is not a seamless transition. You typically find that a player needs a year to get adjusted, and that’s a year you paid pretty big money for.”
Raiders coach Tony Sparano said the veterans have helped the younger players develop and have essentially put blinders on rather than wallow in the potential negativity of a winless season.
“A veteran player where we are at 0-10 might look down the road a little bit, and sometimes you can ask a player to do something and it can go in one ear and right out the other,” Sparano said. “I think they’re hearing me loud and clear and I appreciate that.”
McKenzie has declined repeated interview requests through a team spokesman.
A look at how McKenzie’s veteran free agents have fared in 2014:
Pleasant surprise
Donald Penn (two years, $9.6 million) — Has played every snap and according to Profootballfocus.com has been responsiblef or only one sack and one hurry of quarterback Derek Carr. The Raiders moved quickly to sign him after Jared Veldheer left in free agency and free agent target Rodger Saffold failed his physical.
Just OK
Justin Tuck (two years, $10 million) — Missed one game with a nagging knee injury and now his neck is bothering him. Tuck has just two sacks but has flashed at times and made the Raiders’ signature defensive play with a deflection interception against Peyton Manning.
Antonio Smith (two years, $9 million) — His game against San Diego, which included his first sack, may have been the best any Raiders lineman has had this season as he pressured Philip Rivers all day.
Tarell Brown (one year, $3.5 million) — No interceptions and six penalties, but the reality is Brown is the Raiders top cover corner and Profootballfocus.com has him for only one missed tackle this season. Will start for someone next year.
James Jones (three years, $10 million) — The team’s leading receiver (49 receptions) still has great hands but is averaging a career-low 10.2 yards per catch. Managed in terms of snaps to get him through 16 games.
Gave it their best shot
Carlos Rogers (one year, $1,050 million) — Will likely miss his fourth game with a knee injury, and there’s no guarantee Rogers will play again this season. The coaching staff likes his professionalism and work in the slot, but at 33 is ancient in cornerback years.
Kevin Boothe (two years, $2.625 million) — Has only lined up on special teams without a snap at center or guard, where he is backup in both areas. That was supposed to be his role, however, and Sparano said Boothe is invaluable in the offensive line meeitng room.
Reggie should have passed
LaMarr Woodley (two years, $10.3 million) — Done for the season after five game with a torn biceps, Woodley had 11 tackles and no sacks and his position at end was upgraded when Benson Mayowa entered the lineup.
Maurice Jones-Drew (three years, $7.5 million) — Worked hard in the offseason to get back in shape, only to have hand surgery at the start of the season. The popular former De La Salle High star has never gotten on track with 33 carries for 70 yards hasn’t had a first down since Week 1.
Posted on November 18, 2014 by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
A free agency formula Al Davis had some success with from 2000 through 2002 has failed general manager Reggie McKenzie.
When the Raiders were last relevant, winning division titles from 2000 through 2002, Davis signed players such as Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson and Bill Romanowski who may have been past their prime but still had something to prove.
Other than signing Jets lineman Austin Howard to a five-year, $30 million contract, McKenzie tried the same thing but is 0-10 heading into Thursday night’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
McKenzie signed nine players to deals worth more than $70 million if taken to the maximum. The roll call includes defensive linemen Justin Tuck, LaMarr Woodley, Antonio Smith and wide receiver James Jones, cornerbacks Carlos Rogers and Tarell Brown, running back Maurice Jones-Drew, tackle Donald Penn and guard Kevin Boothe.
They range in age from 29 (Brown) to 33 (Rogers and Smith) and the average age is 31.
Brown and Rogers signed one-year contracts, the rest were structured so they could be released after a single season with no effect on the 2015 salary cap.
ESPN analyst Bill Polian, the former general manager of the Baltimore Colts, believes free agency has more pitfalls than benefits.
“You have essentially `B’ players whose agents are looking for `A’ money,” Polian said in a phone interview earlier this season. “That is not the best of buys. Then, when a player changes teams, systems and locale, he’s going to have an adjustment period. Football is not a seamless transition. You typically find that a player needs a year to get adjusted, and that’s a year you paid pretty big money for.”
Raiders coach Tony Sparano said the veterans have helped the younger players develop and have essentially put blinders on rather than wallow in the potential negativity of a winless season.
“A veteran player where we are at 0-10 might look down the road a little bit, and sometimes you can ask a player to do something and it can go in one ear and right out the other,” Sparano said. “I think they’re hearing me loud and clear and I appreciate that.”
McKenzie has declined repeated interview requests through a team spokesman.
A look at how McKenzie’s veteran free agents have fared in 2014:
Pleasant surprise
Donald Penn (two years, $9.6 million) — Has played every snap and according to Profootballfocus.com has been responsiblef or only one sack and one hurry of quarterback Derek Carr. The Raiders moved quickly to sign him after Jared Veldheer left in free agency and free agent target Rodger Saffold failed his physical.
Just OK
Justin Tuck (two years, $10 million) — Missed one game with a nagging knee injury and now his neck is bothering him. Tuck has just two sacks but has flashed at times and made the Raiders’ signature defensive play with a deflection interception against Peyton Manning.
Antonio Smith (two years, $9 million) — His game against San Diego, which included his first sack, may have been the best any Raiders lineman has had this season as he pressured Philip Rivers all day.
Tarell Brown (one year, $3.5 million) — No interceptions and six penalties, but the reality is Brown is the Raiders top cover corner and Profootballfocus.com has him for only one missed tackle this season. Will start for someone next year.
James Jones (three years, $10 million) — The team’s leading receiver (49 receptions) still has great hands but is averaging a career-low 10.2 yards per catch. Managed in terms of snaps to get him through 16 games.
Gave it their best shot
Carlos Rogers (one year, $1,050 million) — Will likely miss his fourth game with a knee injury, and there’s no guarantee Rogers will play again this season. The coaching staff likes his professionalism and work in the slot, but at 33 is ancient in cornerback years.
Kevin Boothe (two years, $2.625 million) — Has only lined up on special teams without a snap at center or guard, where he is backup in both areas. That was supposed to be his role, however, and Sparano said Boothe is invaluable in the offensive line meeitng room.
Reggie should have passed
LaMarr Woodley (two years, $10.3 million) — Done for the season after five game with a torn biceps, Woodley had 11 tackles and no sacks and his position at end was upgraded when Benson Mayowa entered the lineup.
Maurice Jones-Drew (three years, $7.5 million) — Worked hard in the offseason to get back in shape, only to have hand surgery at the start of the season. The popular former De La Salle High star has never gotten on track with 33 carries for 70 yards hasn’t had a first down since Week 1.
We are winning tomorrow. For Ray.
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Ashman23
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Ashman23
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Boom! Murray looks all the more a keeper, 2 TDs so far against the chiefs, one for 90 yards. The way this game is going with a D swarming all over the Chiefs' offense we're looking at our first win. Our run game will open up all sorts of passes for Carr as the game goes on.
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3 carries for 107 yards and 2 TDs in his first real crack... let the good times roll baby!
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Still highlights the idiocy of the coaches.
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Rain hasn't helped, Moore with a punt fumble (luckily we only gave up a FG), Murray out with concussion
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Shattered Murray got concussed.
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1-10 YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What a fantastic relief it must be for the players to win today. Grind it out, lose Murray, come from behind and then have to make a defensive stand. The season might be lost but a game like today's can be used as something to build upon.
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Charles Woodson is the first player in NFL history to have 50 interceptions and 20 sacks. (58 int and 20 sacks).
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http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/...e-Speech/0c11b7e0-2aad-4fd2-8d24-1ea7d108d3ab
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Tony Sparano's post-game locker-room speech to the players.
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Tony Sparano's post-game locker-room speech to the players.
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Raiders running back Latavius Murray joined Bo Jackson and Terrelle Pryor as the only players in franchise history with 90-yard runs.
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GG conspiracy/logic time...
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You can be sure the reason why DMC and MJD were continually being used all this time was because Reggie wanted to prove his Free Agent signings were good. The coaches can't be that stupid to NOT try Murray earlier when clearly it was obvious to them that things were terrible with DMC and MJD and they had nothing to lose by trying a young and untried running back.
Remember, Sparano said in his press conference when hired as Interim HC that the definition of insanity was continually doing the same thing expecting different results, and that he intended to change things up, try things, etc.
It's probably why Dennis Allen svcked so much, because he was Reggie's b|tch in this regard, why he looked so frustrated and lacking control, hollow on the sidelines....same reason why Art Shell had the exact same demeanor in 2007.
So basic deduction tells us that Reggie was pushing for MJD and DMC. Especially most recently (a few weeks ago) when Sparano suddenly announced that MJD would get more carries and snaps.
Notice how in this game, the coaches quickly gave up on DMC and MJD after Murray exited the game? They quickly brought in Reece to carry the ball, because they could sniff the win, and knew they needed a running game in the final quarter to get there.
Elementary...the coaches likely always knew Murray was electric, and that Reece was a better back, but weren't given the green light.
You could even say that Sparano and Olson endangered the wrath of Reggie in this game, by doing what they did -- quickly giving up on MJD and DMC, turning to Reece.
They probably said to themselves, finally...."you know what? * Reggie's mandate, we want to win a game for us, and the players, we'll probably get fired end of the season anyway so we might as well just thumb our nose at Reggie."
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You can be sure the reason why DMC and MJD were continually being used all this time was because Reggie wanted to prove his Free Agent signings were good. The coaches can't be that stupid to NOT try Murray earlier when clearly it was obvious to them that things were terrible with DMC and MJD and they had nothing to lose by trying a young and untried running back.
Remember, Sparano said in his press conference when hired as Interim HC that the definition of insanity was continually doing the same thing expecting different results, and that he intended to change things up, try things, etc.
It's probably why Dennis Allen svcked so much, because he was Reggie's b|tch in this regard, why he looked so frustrated and lacking control, hollow on the sidelines....same reason why Art Shell had the exact same demeanor in 2007.
So basic deduction tells us that Reggie was pushing for MJD and DMC. Especially most recently (a few weeks ago) when Sparano suddenly announced that MJD would get more carries and snaps.
Notice how in this game, the coaches quickly gave up on DMC and MJD after Murray exited the game? They quickly brought in Reece to carry the ball, because they could sniff the win, and knew they needed a running game in the final quarter to get there.
Elementary...the coaches likely always knew Murray was electric, and that Reece was a better back, but weren't given the green light.
You could even say that Sparano and Olson endangered the wrath of Reggie in this game, by doing what they did -- quickly giving up on MJD and DMC, turning to Reece.
They probably said to themselves, finally...."you know what? * Reggie's mandate, we want to win a game for us, and the players, we'll probably get fired end of the season anyway so we might as well just thumb our nose at Reggie."
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However......we must give kudos to Reggie, his last two drafts have started panning out. It DOES take a little time for rookies to come on, we've been too hasty in our judgments.
Hayden, Moore, Mack, Carr, Jackson, Murray, Carrie, Ellis, Watson (maybe). And UDFAs in Streater and Butler.
Hayden, Moore, Mack, Carr, Jackson, Murray, Carrie, Ellis, Watson (maybe). And UDFAs in Streater and Butler.
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Murray had too small of a sample size. There was a complete defensive breakdown on his 90 yarder, He only had to beat one man himself, and the safety was out of position, so then was off to the races. His other runs were just average, and from the limited time we've seen him in other games, he hasn't shown anything special throughout his whole career, even in preseason. I definitely think it was stupid not to try and get him involved in the offense earlier though, because MJD and DMC clearly weren't getting anything going. Also Watson looks like one of the worst RT's in the game. But more importantly, we won a ******* game!!!!!!!!!!!!!
