Walsh said it wouldn't necessarily be Dubai. Don't be surprised if it is somewhere else.
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Walsh said it wouldn't necessarily be Dubai. Don't be surprised if it is somewhere else.
I gotta laugh at some of the thinking around here.
We don't go to Dubai this year and everybody says "who cares, it's a waste of money anyway".
I bet you next year when Walsh and the team go to Dubai, those same people will be saying it's a masterstroke.
(for the record, I think we should go even if the difference is only 1% improved performance, I'd still take it)
We don't go to Dubai this year and everybody says "who cares, it's a waste of money anyway".
I bet you next year when Walsh and the team go to Dubai, those same people will be saying it's a masterstroke.
(for the record, I think we should go even if the difference is only 1% improved performance, I'd still take it)
Plenty of s**t teams have gone on pre-season training camps.
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Yes. Makes sense. Walsh was a conditioning coach before so he would have taken a lot of interest in what Burgo was doing. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to skin a cat though. Just some interesting facts here
" Generally temperatures ranging from 25 to 30�C are appropriate; any hotter and the exercise intensity should be reduced. Are hot, dry conditions or hot, humid conditions better? Generally humidity should match the conditions of the environment the athletes will be competing in. Research studies have shown that for hot, wet conditions there was a greater slowing of body temperature and a greater increase in tolerance time compared with hot, dry acclimatisation conditions. Tolerance times increased 27 per cent from 104 to 130 minutes as a result of the hot, wet heat acclimatisation program, compared to an 11 per cent increase from 109 to120 minutes that followed 12 days of hot, dry heat acclimatisation (Cheung, McLellan and Teneglia 2000)."
Heat training was Burgo's answer to clubs such as Collingwood who could take the expensive option and go to Colorado in the US for altitude training. It was getting elitist and clubs were thinking they couldn't compete. That is why he said that heat has the same or better results. In-fact the research here goes on to say
- stay at home, but create a hot training environment, for example, laboratory conditions, internal heating, and warm, heavy clothing. This offers a more controlled environment with little disruption to training and less time away from home. (Lisa Yates, Sports Dietitian, The Coaches Edge )
The facility in Dubai is used due to a combination of factors such as convenience, opportunity and cost effectiveness. A flight is 1000 dollars return which is half the price of Europe. Another point is that Australia is already hot so our players a more used to it than the European athletes. Port trained for 8 days straight which is longer than the recommended time.
Hydration levels haveto be monitored because if you lose too much fluid you will not adapt and be wasting your time. Funny thing is- If the team did it here in some facility in Australia and paid for it they would probably spend as much or more money.
They could stay here and train wearing garbage bags
No problems with a trip away for a 1% gain if the money's there and we are not wanting for anything else in the football department.
But they should also look at other options. Extra staff or upgrading a couple of people by using the money to attract people with more experience, buying specialised equiptment that could help with recovery etc. Josh Jenkins wrote something about the machines the sports science and recovery teams use at colleges in the US being far more advanced than anything he's seen here for example.
Could the money from overseas trips in 2015/16/17 instead buy something to help the players recover better all season?
But they should also look at other options. Extra staff or upgrading a couple of people by using the money to attract people with more experience, buying specialised equiptment that could help with recovery etc. Josh Jenkins wrote something about the machines the sports science and recovery teams use at colleges in the US being far more advanced than anything he's seen here for example.
Could the money from overseas trips in 2015/16/17 instead buy something to help the players recover better all season?
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The thing I like about overseas junkets, I mean training, is that it actually promotes team bonding. You can say all you like about going down the Murray being a team bonding experience but travelling overseas to a country that native language isn't English creates more of a bonding experience. Also could be a positive in luring players to the Crows (hey, we go to Dubai!).
Really would need to be looked at as a cost/benefit analysis, but needs to be more than just fitness benefits.
Really would need to be looked at as a cost/benefit analysis, but needs to be more than just fitness benefits.
Darren Burgess on 5AA said that training at the Nad Al Sheda Sports Complex is by invitation only. And not too many get that. He also stated that Port did not have to pay for the facilities at the Complex because of the invitation to train there.
Congratulations.
Crows will go where they deem best to go. We will probably pay as well because we are a more profitable club than Port, we don't need charity.
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Is post of the year still open?
If it's not, I'm requesting a recount with a new contender.
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The problem with heat training is that what goes up must come down, if your body acclimatises to the heat in 8 days, then it will return to normal in 8 days when you return. If heat training was truly an advantage we would be seeing QLD dominate every sport they compete in against the southern states and the United Arab Emirates would also be a sporting force worldwide.
The effects only last a month, thats what the school textbooks say. Port got any big games coming up in January?
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Living in close quarters in a high pressure environment (like training in a place you cant escape the heat and humidity) can also bring out the worst in people like cguntstone and kurnt
I've been saving it all year waiting for a Port flog to give me an in
Brilliant work EC!
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May premierships are won in January.
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