Player Managers and Players contracts

[iBeng]

Hopefully this wont turn into a shitfest (Haha, who am I kidding) but after reading this latest article:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/treloar-wasnt-a-priority-for-giants-says-manager

His manager appears to state that the coin on offer from the Giants wasnt good enough, he put forward what he believed Treloar was worth, the Giants decline to agree to it on the spot so he started contacting other clubs.

Now is it safe to assume he started contacting clubs at the start of the season? Mid season? At the conclusion of Round 23? Because the article reads as though he had a deal on the table from Collingwood well before the end of the year.

Of course, we've seen things like this before. And its believed that Dayne Beams manager approached us (Or vice versa) and asked for/was offered a deal. Should the AFL have something in place that stops player managers from essentially signing their clients to other clubs before the official trade period begins?

Just how much power should Player managers have? Its considered immoral for clubs to talk to players before their contracts/seasons finish but is it not the same for player managers?

 

[HairyO]

Sam Newman made a good point years ago about managers.

For most players they cost money rather than make money, because the clubs will only offer what they believe they can afford.

Its a rare talent where the manager will organise for big overs or media deals or any of the stuff which the players couldnt do themselves.

Are they really earning their $60k or even $100k every 3 or 4 year contract?

 

[fronkalicious]

Sam Newman made a good point years ago about managers.

For most players they cost money rather than make money, because the clubs will only offer what they believe they can afford.

Its a rare talent where the manager will organise for big overs or media deals or any of the stuff which the players couldnt do themselves.

Are they really earning their $60k or even $100k every 3 or 4 year contract?

You really think a club wouldn't try and take advantage of a player that's negotiating his own deal and doesn't know the market?? Ok then.

And do you think players enjoy paying agent fees?? If none of the players thought they were actually getting value for money, why do they all have agents???

 

[Anzacday]

Hello anybody out there????

That went well

 

[Bay Pie]

Player contracts pffft..

Aren't Brisbane going after more contracted players this year?

 

[HairyO]

You really think a club wouldn't try and take advantage of a player that's negotiating his own deal and doesn't know the market?? Ok then.

And do you think players enjoy paying agent fees?? If none of the players thought they were actually getting value for money, why do they all have agents???

Because its easier. And if a club was ripping players off do you reckon anyone would want to go there???

What does a manager do for a Draftee on set fees for 2 years? Yet most have them.

 

[fronkalicious]

Because its easier. And if a club was ripping players off do you reckon anyone would want to go there???

What does a manager do for a Draftee on set fees for 2 years? Yet most have them.

So by your logic, players must just enjoy paying tens of thousands of dollars to guys that don't do anything. Makes sense..........

 

[HairyO]

So by your logic, players must just enjoy paying tens of thousands of dollars to guys that don't do anything. Makes sense..........

Players being the brilliant businessmen that they are...

So anyway, what does a Draftee get from their manager given they are on set fees for the first 2 years?

 

[bergholt]

Players being the brilliant businessmen that they are...

So anyway, what does a Draftee get from their manager given they are on set fees for the first 2 years?

Presumably most draftees have absolutely no clue what's going on, and they should concentrate on training and playing if they're going to make the most of their talent. Having a manager who can look after all the peripheral stuff sounds like a godsend to me.

 

[HairyO]

Presumably most draftees have absolutely no clue what's going on, and they should concentrate on training and playing if they're going to make the most of their talent. Having a manager who can look after all the peripheral stuff sounds like a godsend to me.

Turn up to training, play on the weekend. Sounds like a pretty tough job. Certainly need someone taking care of their $60k a year...

Clubs look after the finances of players for nothing. They teach them all sorts of things. Managers at the low and mid level are just leeches.

 

[Roverjg]

So by your logic, players must just enjoy paying tens of thousands of dollars to guys that don't do anything. Makes sense..........

No different to being in a union