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[Sucka4Love]

MACKAY racked up 15 with 8 tackles.

Atkins 9 with 3 tackles.

So yes it wasn't the night for outside players, but Mackay at least put in the effort and Atkins clearly didn't.

You need every player in your 22 every single game. Less than ideal conditions are NOT an excuse for a lack of effort and complete, utter softness.

Mackay is playing for his next contract

Atkins is signed up and complacent like the rest of the squad sometimes

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

MACKAY racked up 15 with 8 tackles.

Atkins 9 with 3 tackles.

So yes it wasn't the night for outside players, but Mackay at least put in the effort and Atkins clearly didn't.

You need every player in your 22 every single game. Less than ideal conditions are NOT an excuse for a lack of effort and complete, utter softness.

Mackay plays the easiest role in the team sweeping across half back.

Atkins is a wingman. Utilises time, space. Receiver of the footy. A player our inside mids get the ball to. Wet conditions that disappears and the inside mids just hack it forward.

 

[Vhaluus]

Mackay plays the easiest role in the team sweeping across half back.

Atkins is a wingman. Utilises time, space. Receiver of the footy. A player our inside mids get the ball to. Wet conditions that disappears and the inside mids just hack it forward.

Sweeping across half back isn't a role that gives you easy tackles.

You know what gets you tackles? workrate.

Also your excuse is weak because Seeds on the wing showed him up as well.

22 and 6 tackles.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Mackay is playing for his next contract

Atkins is signed up and complacent like the rest of the squad sometimes

Was Atkins signed up when he got coaches votes against Sydney and Port?

 

[hey shorty]

Mackay plays the easiest role in the team sweeping across half back.

Atkins is a wingman. Utilises time, space. Receiver of the footy. A player our inside mids get the ball to. Wet conditions that disappears and the inside mids just hack it forward.

And, well, he was garbage

 

[Vhaluus]

Was Atkins signed up when he got coaches votes against Sydney and Port?

No-one is saying Atkins doesn't have talent, that's never been his issue.

But he has your view, when the conditions aren't good for him he thinks it's perfectly fine to not put in 100%

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Sweeping across half back isn't a role that gives you easy tackles.

You know what gets you tackles? workrate.

Being close to the play gets you tackles. Repeat stoppages gets tackles.

Both teams broke their all-time record for tackles.

Jenkins suddenly work harder last night?

 

[hey shorty]

Being close to the play gets you tackles. Repeat stoppages gets tackles.

Both teams broke their all-time record for tackles.

Jenkins suddenly work harder last night?

He's worked pretty hard all year

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

No-one is saying Atkins doesn't have talent, that's never been his issue.

But he has your view, when the conditions aren't good for him he thinks it's perfectly fine to not put in 100%

Maybe he put in and the ball didn't come his way

Because he's a wingman and this was a down-the-line scrappy slog

 

[Vhaluus]

Being close to the play gets you tackles. Repeat stoppages gets tackles.

Both teams broke their all-time record for tackles.

Jenkins suddenly work harder last night?

Seeds had double his tackles. Playing the same position. Plus over double the disposals.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

He's worked pretty hard all year

Harder last night or the same?

Tackle numbers were up. Was that due to increased workrate?

 

[Coopers]

Seeds had double his tackles. Playing the same position. Plus over double the disposals.

Except it's not the same position as it's physically impossible to occupy the same space at the same time.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Seeds had double his tackles. Playing the same position. Plus over double the disposals.

Yep, the All Australian wingman outperformed him.

I also think Peter Matera would have out-performed Atkins last night.

So Atkins had a quiet game in an easy home win against a hopeless bottom four opposition who kicked two goals. C'mon Rat! That's when we need you to step up the most!

 

[dogs105]

Can we create another category for Mackay, Douglas and Jenkins and call it "The Irrelevant"

You can if you didn't watch the game

 

[Vhaluus]

Yep, the All Australian wingman outperformed him.

I also think Peter Matera would have out-performed Atkins last night.

So Atkins had a quiet game in an easy home win against a hopeless bottom four opposition who kicked two goals. C'mon Rat! That's when we need you to step up the most!

Be honest, do you honestly think Atkins put in 100% effort last night?

People can have quiet games, sometimes things don't go your way. But you need to be putting in 100% anyway.

 

[hey shorty]

Harder last night or the same?

Tackle numbers were up. Was that due to increased workrate?

Probably he upped his rate, I reckon having Fog and Murphy busting their guts each contest spurred him on.

You can't sugarcoat Rats game. I'm as big a fan as anyone but he hasn't been great for a fortnight.

 

[Elite Crow]

When it's wet the most important players are your inside players

That's for every game in history

So let’s not play Atkins in the wet

 

[hey shorty]

Which knee did Fogarty have trouble with last year? Left knee was strapped last night after a knock but moved ok.

Think that was the one from last year, it'll be ongoing awareness through his career.

 

[Elite Crow]

Yep, the All Australian wingman outperformed him.

I also think Peter Matera would have out-performed Atkins last night.

So Atkins had a quiet game in an easy home win against a hopeless bottom four opposition who kicked two goals. C'mon Rat! That's when we need you to step up the most!

So you don’t think Atkins is soft?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Be honest, do you honestly think Atkins put in 100% effort last night?

People can have quiet games, sometimes things don't go your way. But you need to be putting in 100% anyway.

It was a repeat stoppage game. Suited CEY, Greenwood, Douglas types. Win it at the contest, kick it forward.

The wings and high half forwards didn't do much.

Players who's role it is to sit on the outside of the stoppages were bypassed.

An outside player having a quiet game in a wet slog is the least newsworthy thing of our season so far. Just people who don't like him scraping for ammo.

 

[Vhaluus]

It was a repeat stoppage game. Suited CEY, Greenwood, Douglas types. Win it at the contest, kick it forward.

The wings and high half forwards didn't do much.

Players who's role it is to sit on the outside of the stoppages were bypassed.

An outside player having a quiet game in a wet slog is the least newsworthy thing of our season so far. Just people who don't like him scraping for ammo.

I notice you COMPLETELY avoided my question.

Also you're making a bad argument yourself, we've already dispelled 'wings didn't do much' by comparing him to Seeds.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So you don’t think Atkins is soft?

Compared to Leigh Matthews? Yes.

I think if Atkins plays like he did vs Sydney and Port he'll contribute in September. Feel like the Sydney game was a step forward for him as he'd been poor against them before.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I notice you COMPLETELY avoided my question.

Also you're making a bad argument yourself, we've already dispelled 'wings didn't do much' by comparing him to Seeds.

What part of Seedsman the All Australian wingman are you missing?

Yes, the All Australian wingman out-performed him.

 

[Vhaluus]

What part of Seedsman the All Australian wingman are you missing?

Yes, the All Australian wingman out-performed him.

Except he's not an All Australian wingman.

He might be in AA form but you know a big reason for that? EFFORT.

Again you STILL avoid the question about if you honestly though Atkins put in 100% effort last night.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So let’s not play Atkins in the wet

Let's not play any of our players in finals