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Chapman, Dempsey, Fletcher, Kavanagh, Melksham, O'Brien, Pears, Winderlich all to be delisted, yes?
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I personally think Melksham will hang on for one more year, the rest that aren't retiring are probably in trouble.
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Agree Goddard isn't A grade any more.
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I really hope NOB goes but worried he will get another run. The hope for him (and the worry for me) is we can't delist everyone so some
list cloggers will survive.
NOB, Fletch, Winderlich, Chappy, Pears, Kav, Hams, Dalgleish, Kommer?
Dempsey? Melksham? Browne?
Up to 12 blokes could all be disposed of but that's not good list management, so some gumbys will
survive.
Rookies - Aylett, Stein.
Is Howlett contracted? Kommer?
list cloggers will survive.
NOB, Fletch, Winderlich, Chappy, Pears, Kav, Hams, Dalgleish, Kommer?
Dempsey? Melksham? Browne?
Up to 12 blokes could all be disposed of but that's not good list management, so some gumbys will
survive.
Rookies - Aylett, Stein.
Is Howlett contracted? Kommer?
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I'd rather give another go to guys who haven't really had a chance to show what they can do (Kav, Browne, Dalgleish) than hang onto guys we know won't be anything like Melksham and NOB. Even if they're just one year contracts, we can delist them next year.
I'd rather do that, but I know we won't.
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Christian Bock or Lachlan McKinnon?
Kav and NOB might be worth keeping solely for depth for another year. Esp with a new coach coming onboard.
Maybe Melks gets another run. Transform into a forward pocket player that can play lockdown on HBF runner.
6 list changes probably not enough.
Dempsey, Kommer, Dalgleish, Steinberg, Aylett probably make way as well.
Hams out of contract? Another one i'd be surprised to see held on to.
Where the hell is Christian Bock?
The American at St Kilda has a huge leap. If they can jump like that, learn to tap and kick, might be worth considering as a project ruck. They've travelled a long way and won't want it to be for nothing.
The way I see our midfield group going forward, in two, maybe three years?: Heppell, Laverde (more awesome with each game, very exciting), Zerrett, Myers, Colyer (rotational), Zaharakis, Parish or another drafted/traded mid. I'd like to see Browne and either NOB or Kav retained as well.
Myers and Zaharakis becoming veterans by the time Heppell, Laverde, Zerrett and Parish (?) start to dominate as a group. As much as I'd like TBell to dominate, by that time you'd have to think the game might be going past him.
There are a few I'd keep for 1 more year as you can't possibly overturn 10+ players in 1 off season can you?
In regards to melksham, I dont have too much of a problem with him staying on the list (if we could get a second rounder we should do it) but the biggest concern is that I think he should actually spend proper time in the 2s to EARN his spot.
Hopefully the new coach doesn't gift games...
In regards to melksham, I dont have too much of a problem with him staying on the list (if we could get a second rounder we should do it) but the biggest concern is that I think he should actually spend proper time in the 2s to EARN his spot.
Hopefully the new coach doesn't gift games...
What's happened to Goddard he's disposals have been s**t house.
I suspect the ankle injury he got (I believe last week) is still hampering him. He couldn't kick well after it happened last week and it continued this week.
Yeah something was up with his kicking last night. Let alone all year really.
Hird mentioned that there could be up to 10 changes to the list in one of his last pressers, so its possible.
You'd think the incoming coach would also want to de-risk from the ASADA/WADA situation outside of our untouchables, as harsh as it sounds it would be the quickest way to remove the ASADA trauma from the playing group.
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There's still a good 17 players on our list from the original 34, with Fletcher to retire that's 16. This is the only reason why I wouldn't be overly bothered if we moved on Pears, O'Brien, Browne, Melksham and even Carlisle/Stanton with Steinberg to be delisted. Try and cut the list down to about 10-11 players to mitigate the impact of any potential suspension.
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Cutting more of the of the asada effected players won't lessen the impact of suspensions, we still have the replace those players with others players who will either be not ready for AFL, or VFL standard players.
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I'd rather keep good or promising players and dump guys who don't warrant a spot. But that could just be me.
Yep cant gut the list in one big swoop don't have the picks or players to replace them.
You are making the assumption that we can't recruit players that can step straight up to AFL standard but there a numerous examples over the last few years that we have done it, Merrett Ambrose McKernan Gwilt Laverde ect ect.
i simply love a clear out that centres on removing the 7 least valuable players and doing nothing else
Retire: Fletcher, Chapman, Winderlich
Delist: Pears, Hams, Dalgleish, Steinberg (r)
Upgrade: McKernan, McKenna
Re-sign: Carlisle (3/4 years, please!), Stanton (2 years), Gwilt (1 year)
That's my starting point. Gives us 4 ND draft picks and 3 RD picks. I'd be tempted to give Dempsey, Browne, Melksham, O'Brien and Kav 1 year deals or trade for picks/pick upgrades if anyone is interested (which I doubt). Don't want us to have more than 5 ND picks as it seems the people who know about these things (definitely not me) think it's a shallow draft.
Delist: Pears, Hams, Dalgleish, Steinberg (r)
Upgrade: McKernan, McKenna
Re-sign: Carlisle (3/4 years, please!), Stanton (2 years), Gwilt (1 year)
That's my starting point. Gives us 4 ND draft picks and 3 RD picks. I'd be tempted to give Dempsey, Browne, Melksham, O'Brien and Kav 1 year deals or trade for picks/pick upgrades if anyone is interested (which I doubt). Don't want us to have more than 5 ND picks as it seems the people who know about these things (definitely not me) think it's a shallow draft.
The problem I have with Melksham is he is far to talented to be simply delisted. He isn't performing for sure and I don't know what the answer is. It's probably so frustrating for the coaches and him.
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Is he better as a small forward than as a midfielder?
He's not talented at all. He has no real weapons to speak of.
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