Walsh v Rozee v Butters v Smith

[Young Gun #6]

Time for a new poll. Who would you take from 2018 re draft of top mids?

 

[Foxman98]

1 - Butters
2 - Rozee
3 - Walsh
4 - Baz

Baz is coming for Walsh now though who has fallen off a cliff

 

[00Stinger]

honestly Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

does not deserve to be anywhere near the other 3 in this poll

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Best career the safe bet is Rozee. Has the highest ceiling. Right now Butters

 

[KissKiss]

Best career the safe bet is Rozee. Has the highest ceiling. Right now Butters

Id say the safest bet who has the highest floor is Walsh, but Rozee and Butters have potentially higher ceilings and have gone past him right now.

 

[raptalia]

Zac Butters was unbelievably good last night he appears to be reaching new levels every week. I am glad that Port has both Rozee and Butters.

 

[danster168]

1. Butters
2. Walsh
3. Smith
4. Rozee

The thing that annoys me about Rozee is that he never takes the first option. So even though he makes the hard look easy he makes the easy look very hard sometimes. Like when he gets the ball, he dances prances, turns left, turns right, goes nowhere and then kicks long. A bit like Kozzie Pickett in that sense. Sometimes just take the first option. It's a bad habit in Rozees game.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Smith has become a horrible footballer.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

1. Butters
2. Walsh
3. Smith
4. Rozee

The thing that annoys me about Rozee is that he never takes the first option. So even though he makes the hard look easy he makes the easy look very hard sometimes. Like when he gets the ball, he dances prances, turns left, turns right, goes nowhere and then kicks long. A bit like Kozzie Pickett in that sense. Sometimes just take the first option. It's a bad habit in Rozees game.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He is all class and constantly taking the brave kicks. He is coached to take the game on and run, why would he take the very first choice when he can clearly run create space and kick it to the RIGHT choice

 

[danster168]

That’s a ridiculous statement. He is all class and constantly taking the brave kicks. He is coached to take the game on and run, why would he take the very first choice when he can clearly run create space and kick it to the RIGHT choice

He often complicates things. just like Kozzie Pickett does sometimes. Rozee often can't execute the basic stuff because he is always trying to create something. Which isn't always the best thing to do. You shouldn't take the game on every single time. In basketball terms its like a point guard just doing crossovers, hesi's, pullbacks and all that jazz instead of just swinging the damn ball.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

He often complicates things. just like Kozzie Pickett does sometimes. Rozee often can't execute the basic stuff because he is always trying to create something. Which isn't always the best thing to do. You shouldn't take the game on every single time. In basketball terms its like a point guard just doing crossovers, hesi's, pullbacks and all that jazz instead of just swinging the damn ball.

Rozee our most skilful player “often can’t execute the basic stuff”… right

 

[danster168]

Rozee our most skilful player “often can’t execute the basic stuff”… right

you don't think Kozzie Pickett is skilful? right.

If a player consistently doesn't take the first option to the detriment of the team then yes its a problem.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

you don't think Kozzie Pickett is skilful? right.

If a player consistently doesn't take the first option to the detriment of the team then yes its a problem.

You honestly have no idea what you’re talking about. You are just wrong. He often takes the first option, when he doesn’t he often finds a better option. He is one of our more trusted disposal player. Your criticism is just wrong. Clearly don’t watch many port games

 

[danster168]

You honestly have no idea what you’re talking about. You are just wrong. He often takes the first option, when he doesn’t he often finds a better option. He is one of our more trusted disposal player. Your criticism is just wrong. Clearly don’t watch many port games

if I find examples, and time stamps will you even watch them?

 

[conrad_437]

Butters clearly the best. Smith clearly the worst.

I'll save everyone the trouble.

 

[SC_Power]

Walsh underrated… somehow. Probably recency bias.

 

[SC_Power]

if I find examples, and time stamps will you even watch them?

Yeah, as long as they are representative sample.

When Port Adelaide have 4 of the best 15 inside 50 delivery exponents this year (incl Rozee. And Butters. And JHF. ) then there’s a lot of evidence either way.

 

[FrankDrebin]

1. Butters
2. Walsh
3. Smith
4. Rozee

The thing that annoys me about Rozee is that he never takes the first option. So even though he makes the hard look easy he makes the easy look very hard sometimes. Like when he gets the ball, he dances prances, turns left, turns right, goes nowhere and then kicks long. A bit like Kozzie Pickett in that sense. Sometimes just take the first option. It's a bad habit in Rozees game.

Interesting take, Rozee definitely loves a sidestep (or two) but it always looks to me it is in heavy traffic and he is doing it to give himself some time and space. One specific example was against St Kilda where he won it, 4-5 saints players closed in and he did all that sidestap stuff and found a port player all on his own for a shot on goal.

Never is a bit harsh, I've definitely seen him give first gives before, but will watch closer now whether sometimes he is hanging on to it for show or out of necessity.

 

[Saab NLAW]

How good is Butters? Love watching him play

 

[Mundusa]

I'm pretty sure we can put the Walsh, Smith, Rozee debate to bed now.
Rozee has edged himself into a different bracket than the other two.

 

[rye]

I'm pretty sure we can put the Walsh, Smith, Rozee debate to bed now.
Rozee has edged himself into a different bracket than the other two.

walsh has had 2 years impacted by injury

i think it is premature to make any declaration as to either him or rozee being better than the other

 

[Mundusa]

walsh has had 2 years impacted by injury

i think it is premature to make any declaration as to either him or rozee being better than the other

Rozee has had injury impact as well. I believe they have both played just over 90 games each.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Yeah
Rozee
Butters
Walsh


Smith

 

[Young Gun #6]

Butters
Rozee
Walsh









Smith

at this stage.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Rozee has had injury impact as well. I believe they have both played just over 90 games each.

Walsh ahead whilst Rozee was injured.
Rozee ahead whilst Walsh was injured.

To say either is "in a different bracket" is completely dumb.