Walsh v Rozee v Butters v Smith

[Foxman98]

2021 AFLCA vote Walsh only had 10 votes 4 times compared to Butters 7 times, only had 93 votes for the year. In the end Champion data and the coaches agree butters was better. But I guess we all have to believe a nuffie like you on the internet

Again Top 4 team vs Bottom 6 Team, Port won 9 more games this year then Carlton in 2021 yet he only had 3 more 10 votes and 17 more votes* with the extra round added not quite the check mate argument you thought you made

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Again Top 4 team vs Bottom 6 Team, Port won 9 more games this year then Carlton in 2021 yet he only had 3 more 10 votes and 17 more votes* with the extra round added not quite the check mate argument you thought you made

Again Butters impact made us a top 4 team. Walsh best year got Carlton to 13th. Says a lot

 

[Foxman98]

Again Butters impact made us a top 4 team. Walsh best year got Carlton to 13th. Says a lot

And with 8 votes alone last week not including his ones this week he has already got more coaches votes in finals then Butters has in his entire career

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

So he was that good but couldn’t get him team anywhere near finals. Shows how impactful he was. Yet butters got us top 3

No. Butters got you top 5. Walsh currently has his side top 3.

 

[My Tilly]

Nah, Butters 2023>>> Walsh, port are not a high disposals team just coz he got more disposals doesn’t mean anything. Even at his best champion data had Walsh at a top 50 player due to his ball usage and impact on the game. Butters is far superior

I agree.
Butters this season has been far superior to anything Walsh has ever produced.
In fact, there was patch there of 3-4 weeks where Butters was being likened to Ablett Jnr such was his dominance.

He has dropped away as the season draw on but Butters may just win the Brownlow medal.
No doubt he wins his clubs B&F.

A truly brilliant season of football where he announced himself as one of the top three midfielders in the competition.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

The enormous hypothetical contract Dangerfield would offer Sam Walsh to join Geelong

Sam Walsh is out of contract at the end of the season. Dangerfield, Jenkins and Cornes assess what he is worth.

www.sen.com.au

‘Could be one of the very best ever’: Danger’s huge praise for ‘complete package’ star Sam Walsh

‘Could be one of the very best ever’: Huge praise for ‘special’ 55-game star

www.foxsports.com.au

Last time Walsh had a pre season this was how the Geelong faithful viewed him. Oh how quickly they forget.

 

[Foxman98]

Again Butters impact made us a top 4 team. Walsh best year got Carlton to 13th. Says a lot

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

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Wow. Built for September.

 

[Chism]

Again Butters impact made us a top 4 team. Walsh best year got Carlton to 13th. Says a lot

Top 4 means nothing when you go out in straight sets. May as well scrape in to 8th really.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

 

[Leeroy Brown 15]

People forget how good Walsh was in 2021 and he seems to be finding that form again this finals series. Seriously good player and looks like he's hitting his straps again and finally injury free

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

No doubt Rozee and Butter failed in the two most important games on the year for us. They will have to live with that. Luckily they are young. Hopefully it burns and overall makes them better players because of it.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

No doubt Rozee and Butter failed in the two most important games on the year for us. They will have to live with that. Luckily they are young. Hopefully it burns and overall makes them better players because of it.

They probably read your posts on BigFooty and thought it was all just going to happen.

 

[King_Tredrea]

Im taking Rozee over any of them including Butters. Not too worried about Rozee and Butters poor games against GWS, it was a Ken Hinkley Port side in an elimination game. Everyone was poor, as you would expect.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Decent chance Walsh takes the Gary Ayres Medal.

Would be the youngest winner and by some margin.

 

[KissKiss]

Decent chance Walsh takes the Gary Ayres Medal.

Would be the youngest winner and by some margin.

How often does that get won by a non GF player especially as they get 1.5×votes in the GF?

He had 3 strong games but not sure any pie or lion have had 2 good games. Been an even spread from both teams

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

How often does that get won by a non GF player especially as they get 1.5×votes in the GF?

He had 3 strong games but not sure any pie or lion have had 2 good games. Been an even spread from both teams

It hasn’t happened before. But the award is quite young.

Walsh should get 6-8 votes against Brisbane, I think De Goey is the only realistic threat from here as he will get 10 against GWS.

 

[Lingsface]

Rozee still for me he has so much damage with his possesions and now is finding it close to 30 times a game.

Walsh would be my captain though he is made of some different material!

Butters is an all round great player and I see him and Serong as the best smaller midfielders in terms of winning the ball and having very good inside and outside games.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Again Butters impact made us a top 4 team. Walsh best year got Carlton to 13th. Says a lot

Walsh' impact made Carlton a preliminary finalist.

Butters' impact? Port Adelaide a straight sets finals exit.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Walsh' impact made Carlton a preliminary finalist.

Butters' impact? Port Adelaide a straight sets finals exit.

Dumb, you have intentionally misquoted or just you miss understood the post. We are comparing Walsh 2021 to Butters 2023.

 

[My Tilly]

Decent chance Walsh takes the Gary Ayres Medal.

Would be the youngest winner and by some margin.

You have a decent hard-on for Walsh don't you?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

You have a decent hard-on for Walsh don't you?

Sorry for discussing Walsh in a Walsh thread

 

[Jeremias]

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Young champion

 

[oceanbeer]

In terms of those 4 ranked in 2023:

Butters >= Walsh > Rozee >>> Smith

However I think Rozee will be the best of the four within 3-4 years.