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Tertiary and Continuing Which degrees are useless/useful?

Discussion in 'Education and Employment' started by rick James, Feb 22, 2010.

Put it out there
  1. Tex_21

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    Pretty much. THere is no "Economics" major at UB as such. There was one in "Applied Economics and Finance", which involves some maths work in the finance classes (Black-Scholes, discounting etc) but nothing too strenuous. My third year Economic Policy class had about 12 people in it from memory, and even a class I took on Comparative Economic Systems only had about 15.

    I've found similar here, but ANU has a rep for being heavy on maths in the eco stream, so it wasn't unexpected. First year macro here was using partial derivatives to solve models, which weren't even mentioned at any stage at UB.

    I am living on campus, but I'm a hermit so probably not the best person to ask. Different colleges do have different 'cultures' (lack of a better word) though.

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    Did you get into med?

    (Difficult degree, but wait until you start working :eek::p)
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    Yes, I did. Terrified and excited :)
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    In BSc, Agricultural Science would be good, especially in Tasmania, with so many scholarships passing by each year, means that there is a fair chance if your ATAR is good, you will get a scholarship.
    States that rely on Agriculture desperately need more graduates, every year there is something like 60% graduates compared to jobs available in that sector.
    Good money as well, can easily earn over 6 figures.

    Science stuff is generally pretty good in Tas, lots of Antarctic research, and also a lot of untouched wilderness like the Franklin and the Tarkine where cutting-edge research can be undertaken.

    Medicine is also good, pretty obvious. But things that could be replacements to aspired but failed medicine students such as physiotherapy and pharmacy are also highly sought after, with high ATARs required, and good salary. Both also have chances of opening a business, I wonder if it would be possible to do a pharmacy/business course??

    Tasmania definitely offers different options, as I have learnt from my time in SA. If you're an aspiring naturalist/scientist, many opportunities there. Just don't get involved with the government ;)
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    I know a guy who would never pass any uni course. Just doesn't have the will or attention span to be good academically.

    However, he has people skills, personality and a will to learn about practical things. He is in the agricultural sector, earning 100k, and in early 20s. It's not about what uni degrees are useless etc, it's how you apply what you've got, whether that's a phD, an Arts degree, or no tertiary study :thumbsu:
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    Congrats. I've finsihed, so any advice needed/wanted, let me know. :thumbsu:
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    I just finished my MPA and got ****ed around with group assignments so much its not funny.

    Anyway, the true motivation for a lot of lecturers setting group assignments is this - if they have a course with 300 students and set an individual assignment they will have to mark 300 assignments. But, if the lecturer sets an assignment that can be completed in groups of four they may only have to mark as few as 75 assignments.

    So, in short, a lot of them cbf marking loads of assignments.
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    However, there's no money or job security for science in general. Just to stick a dampener on it! And generally research is going to have a government involvement.

    I'm not sure I'd call physio and pharmacy options for 'failed med students'! They're incredibly competitive in themselves.

    Thanks :)
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    I think Monash offers a Pharmacy/Commerce double. Otherwise there is postgraduate qualifications in business.

    There have been numerous things happen over the last few years and that are about to happen (changes to the PBS, drugs coming off patent) that could make pharmacy not that much of a great business anyway.

    Failed medicine students is somewhat condescending.
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    I've nearly completed my Bachelor of I.T majoring in security. How hard should I expect it to find a decent paying job straight up? My marks have been very average as the studying/theory side of I.T absolutely does my head in, would this hinder my chances or do a lot of places just want someone with the qualification?
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    To get in the door - maybe. After thaT NO. iT WILL BE SKILLS BASED.

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    This is very true. In fact, I have had tutors actually tell me that this is the exact reason there are so many group assignments. It's simply too hard to correct one assignment from every single student.

    However, if you can get your groups right, and work with people you want to work with, a group assignment is preferrable to doing everything yourself. However, the opposite can happen. I once spent about 30% of the assignment time correcting the english and grammar mistakes of a group member. Only just passed the assignment.
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    Oh yes, the practical aspects are a big driver. The last couple of assignments I've been involved with, however, have been of such scope that no one student could be reasonably expected to complete it solo.
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    Last few group assignments I have had, sucked. While the content wasn't difficult I don't understand how some fellow students are so lazy. In a group assignment isn't there an onus on you to not leave it to the last minute.

    Assignments where you get to choose your team members are sometimes good because you know peoples abilities but you can start chatting to non related topics.



    Talking about useless degrees, management degress would have to be up there.
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    I am about to start a BSc (Evolutionary Biology) as a mature aged student (part time).

    I got in with my STAT score and I checked with the Uni about last year's STAT cut-offs for various degrees and I was above last year's cut-off for Law and would likely have got in if I wanted but TBH I couldn't think of anything much more boring.

    Sure, it can give you more options and salary prospects but I would much rather be studying something I enjoy learning about.

    I would like to do at least Honours and then see where I want to go from there. The current plan is for a Palaeontology major. Assuming I'm enjoying it and doing well at the end, I wouldn't mind pursuing a PHD - that is a long way away though.
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    Nick, I was under the impression you had already gone to uni. What, if anything, did you study in the past?

    Also, why have you made yourself so scarce from SRP the last 12 months or so?
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    Nah, I didn't go to uni straight after HS and it was entirely due to lack of effort. I picked subjects in year 10 that set up a particular path, followed them into year 11 and 12 and by the end really hated them. Because of that I did the bare minimum I needed to scrape through a pass and did just that.

    I worked for a year after HS and then decided I'd like to apply for SAPOL so I went to TAFE and did a CIII in Justice Studies. The year without study had made a big difference. Also, I had probably matured a fair bit in that time too.

    My SAPOL application fell over at the psych interview which was about 5 mins long and consisted of him asking what I did in my spare time. I believe the correct answer is that I am a massive extrovert and I go out lots and play sports. It is not that I enjoy hanging out with my close friends and watching movies/playing games.

    After that I got a job at a training company and have since completed a CIV in Training & Assessment. Quite happy where I am but decided I'd like to study for personal fulfillment. If a new career arises then that's great but at worst it can never hurt to have any qualification.

    I have always had a real interest in palaeontology and biology was the one year 12 subject that I actually somewhat enjoyed.

    Ahh yes. I'm not sure if I can mention it here.

    Actually, there is a link to it at the bottom of the page so I should be fine. I discovered Reddit! It can really eat up your time online. That said, I have started making an effort to include BF :)
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    Hahahaha really, because I did a BSc in Geology and I can tell you that I wouldnt say that the wages were low.

    Actually Geo grads were at one stage the highest paid grads coming out of Uni! (Might be beaten by the mining engineers now).

    I get what you're saying though, a lot of science degrees dont offer as high-paying jobs. But, it is such an important area and its a shame that it isn't compensated as such. :(
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    I think you might need some external certificates and experience to help.

    External certs I am talking about are Cisco and Microsoft, seeing as you majored in security( how is that by the way?) I'd recommend getting CCNA Security cert (need CCNA first). But then again I might be wasting a post and you might already know this.

    I'm currently doing a Bachelor of Engineering (Computer and Networking) and am thinking about changing to a Bachelor of I.T or Computer Science.
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    I have a Journalism degree, and have worked part time at a street magazine in Adelaide for about 2 1/2 years, have worked in radio, and contribute to an independant news site, these seem more like a hobby to me, im currently back at uni, and have started my honours year of a Psychology degree.

    I think the road i have gone through will lead me down a path with a plethora of options, to be honest, arts/journalism/communications qualifications with a psych/criminology background i figure should land me a decent job somewhere. Now to make a decision
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    Depends a lot on what strand you do. I did a double degree in music and literature. The Literature units were dead easy to pass but hard to get high marks. Music wasn't so easy. The theoretical units were ok but you had to put a lot of work into the practical units to pass. I practiced my recital pieces four hours a day and only managed credits.
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    Which instrument did you play, Noddy?
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    I'm studying first year architecture at the moment and group assignments are a bitch. Not sure how my partner hasn't dropped out yet, i did the majority of the work and she kept having to leave/go away etc but reassured me multiple times that she didn't want to let the team down...
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    Probably because people like you keep carrying her through assignments...