List Mgmt. Woodcock, Lienert and Burgoyne delisted (Mayes to be rookied)

[HinkleysHeroes]

I wonder if we are leaving room for the midseason draft hoping some diamonds show up in the Vic leagues. They have played very little the last two seasons in Victoria so surely a couple quality late blooming kids slip through the draft.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Another option is to run a smaller list and not fill all available list spots?

Why would you do this though? Like surely if nothing else youre still better to throw a 1 year contract at someone and see what happens in 12 months?

 

[Portmagpies36]

Jarrod Lienert

31

Jarrod Lienert

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.7

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

5.3

4star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

394.7

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

294.0

4star

D

18.0

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

5.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

310.6

5star

never ever got the chances a lot of players were given and to me had a lot more talent.

 

[afl2004]

What about Burgoyne???

 

[Macca19]

Lienert promised a lot but overall just didn't take that next step to cement a spot in the side.

Woodcock just one of those too good for SANFL/not good enough for AFL types but he gave it a good crack for a very late draft pick.

 

[raptalia]

We must have delisted free agent(s) or pick trades lined up.

Yes, we will be playing with a shortened list if do not pickup a couple of DFAs. We have * all tradable picks in this Draft and I see no sense in trading future picks to get into a what is supposed to be a shallow Draft.

As I see it we have 5 slots on our senior list and our first round pick and probably Jase Burgoyne will fill 2 of those which would leave 3 to fill. Maybe a couple of DFAs and we possibly elevate someone from the Rookie List? Is Taj Scofield a chance to be elevated?

I hope we have a cunning plan.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Why would you do this though? Like surely if nothing else youre still better to throw a 1 year contract at someone and see what happens in 12 months?

Wondering if AFL clubs actually save money doing this. In other sports they still need to pay a minimum salary cap.

 

[RossFC]

I'm gonna guess for the 6 remaining spots, 3 in the draft, 1 rookie, 1 dfa, 1 empty slot.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

This

Legitimately shocked. Mayes I understand, Woodcock is harsh but understandable, but Lienert wow! When we also have shithouse draft picks it is a huge surprise.

We have what 4 spots available now?

I'd be disappointed if we took more kids at the draft than pick 12, 60 and Burgoyne. Don't want to keep filling the list with late draft kids. Hopefully we have a DFA or 2 in mind.

Id say Lienert is moreso about balancing the list age and positions.

He is too old and in a position of depth to be kept on.

 

[RossFC]

What about Burgoyne???

What we've heard about the remaining uncontracted players.

Motlop - Probable 1 year deal.
Mead - CD mentioned him playing a role next year.
Schofield - Said he'll be fine without dad at the club next year.
McEntee - Likely to be given 1 year deal.
Mayes - Promised to be rookie listed.
Burgoyne - Crickets.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I'm gonna guess for the 6 remaining spots, 3 in the draft, 1 rookie, 1 dfa, 1 empty slot.

I'm a bit concerned with this unless we improve our draft hand. Our third pick in the draft right is pick 73. Does that really have a better risk/reward than holding on to Lienert?

 

[Waspy79]

I'm a bit concerned with this unless we improve our draft hand. Our third pick in the draft right is pick 73. Does that really have a better risk/reward than holding on to Lienert?

I dare say Lienert will get a look in elsewhere. We might have courteously euthanised him after no trade offers materialised.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I dare say Lienert will get a look in elsewhere. We might have courteously euthanised him after no trade offers materialised.

Ah true, if this is the case I'm fine with it. I honestly think he is too good to not be on a list next year and hope someone picks him up. His last games at AFL level were all excellent. Will never be a star but is the perfect depth defender.

 

[Coobk001]

1. Aliir
2. Jonas
3. McKenzie
4. Clurey
5. Jones
6. Pasini

A fair bit of glass would need to break before we remotely regret this decision.

No doubt, but replacing him with pick 137 seems an extremely strange call.

 

[RossFC]

I'm a bit concerned with this unless we improve our draft hand. Our third pick in the draft right is pick 73. Does that really have a better risk/reward than holding on to Lienert?

Will Leek Alleer last til then?

 

[El_Scorcho]

Both players were serviceable depth but I'm not gutted to lose them. Hope they get a chance elsewhere.

 

[x_les_x]

Woodcock joins the Kane Mitchells Sam Colquhoun

Sam Colquhoun

Age

29

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.0

3star

S Gary Dom Barry

Dom Barry

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.2

2star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

7.6

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.4

3star

Jake Neades of the world - 180cm or lower players too good for sanfl not good enough/not played in their prefered position in the AFL and delisted

Hope Lieno gets a lifeline

 

[Marmozet]

Lienert was very serviceable. Genuinely wish that bloke all the best.

 

[Jones2ByrneJones]

Woodcock joins the Kane Mitchells Sam Colquhoun S Gary Dom Barry Jake Neades of the world - 180cm or lower players too good for sanfl not good enough/not played in their prefered position in the AFL and delisted

Hope Lieno gets a lifeline

Too good for SANFL? Neade barely makes a dent in the reserves

 

[PrisonBars4life]

I think people assume he was 18-19 and not 23-24 when he debuted.

KPD don't grow on trees - he was handy depth. Paul Stewart remained on our list and played valuable games when we had injuries.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

I wonder if we are leaving room for the midseason draft hoping some diamonds show up in the Vic leagues. They have played very little the last two seasons in Victoria so surely a couple quality late blooming kids slip through the draft.

That to me seems like the obvious play. They are not going to draft someone at 80 to replace woodcock.

 

[Jones2ByrneJones]

KPD don't grow on trees - he was handy depth. Paul Stewart remained on our list and played valuable games when we had injuries.

Stewart also kicked the winning goal in our comeback win against North in 2012

 

[RossFC]

If 2 of Aliir, Jonas, McKenzie and Clurey get injured, then 1 of Burton, Finlayson or Pasini would have to fill in.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

Stewart also kicked the winning goal in our comeback win against North in 2012

Don't like these delistings. All players played a role this year. We can't be too sentimental but Woodcock has done nothing wrong. Why even draft him if you are going to cut him for basically doing everything right for a pick 70 odd with 2 out 3 years in the system being covid years. Hope they both get another crack and noone cuts our lunch with Mayes.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Id say Lienert is moreso about balancing the list age and positions.

He is too old and in a position of depth to be kept on.

I don't see too many tall running defenders who can kick 50 metres on our list.
Fair enough he is 28 but hell how many 30 years olds are on our list.