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Bluemour Discussion Thread XIV - Facts Not Welcome
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If they pull off this 2/3 deal that's being proposed should they get Wingard... would SOS consider fleecing them further to move 1 down to 2, still securing Walsh?
Crows will be ropable if Port pull this off.
#1 and change for Wines and #6?
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No way
Adelaide need us they could be desperate. Don't think the suns give 2 and 3 for 6 7 and 10.
Not for number 1 pick. We wait and see
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I would caution against expecting some big deal is about to fall.
Of course SOS would be working on 100 scenarios and something could always drop, but the most likely scenario from here is we land Setterfield and go home (plus maybe some minor shuffles).
It would have been great to grab Shiel, but it was not to be. Usually only 1-2 big fish move each year. And there's a dozen clubs that are interested. Often the players choose to go to premiership contenders or move for family reasons. Bloody hard to entice players after a 2-win season. Despite all this;
We grabbed McGovern - best 22 player (injury permitting) for another 6-8+ years
We will likely grab Setterfield - could easily be top 10 player at club IF he gets fit and fulfills his potential
We have grabbed Fasolo - cheap, experienced talent in an area we need
We will likely grab Walsh - should be a high-end midfielder for 10+ years
That's 2 x almost guaranteed best 22 (Walsh, McGovern), another 2 x best 22 IF fit (Setterfield, Fasolo).
Our backline is mostly set (just needs more experience and missing a small lockdown defender) - We didn't spend any assets there
Our forwardline had twin towers and not much else - we added two medium forwards
Our midfield needed boosting - we are presumably adding two top-end prospects
Trade week so far has not blown me away, but I am more than content.
Of course SOS would be working on 100 scenarios and something could always drop, but the most likely scenario from here is we land Setterfield and go home (plus maybe some minor shuffles).
It would have been great to grab Shiel, but it was not to be. Usually only 1-2 big fish move each year. And there's a dozen clubs that are interested. Often the players choose to go to premiership contenders or move for family reasons. Bloody hard to entice players after a 2-win season. Despite all this;
We grabbed McGovern - best 22 player (injury permitting) for another 6-8+ years
We will likely grab Setterfield - could easily be top 10 player at club IF he gets fit and fulfills his potential
We have grabbed Fasolo - cheap, experienced talent in an area we need
We will likely grab Walsh - should be a high-end midfielder for 10+ years
That's 2 x almost guaranteed best 22 (Walsh, McGovern), another 2 x best 22 IF fit (Setterfield, Fasolo).
Our backline is mostly set (just needs more experience and missing a small lockdown defender) - We didn't spend any assets there
Our forwardline had twin towers and not much else - we added two medium forwards
Our midfield needed boosting - we are presumably adding two top-end prospects
Trade week so far has not blown me away, but I am more than content.
If ten cent piece is correct and we trade pick 1 and next years first rounder for 2 & 3 plus change, 2 & 3 for 6,7 & 10 would seem a good deal.
Spicy day unfolding.
That may be so, but it's only of interest to us if SOS rates someone else more highly, and thinks he can still snare that player - plus others - as part of some deal, i.e. turning pick one into (for example) two mids and another youngster he rates highly at (say) pick 8. I just can't see the 'two mids' part of this puzzle coming together, or whatever else it would need to be.
I've never had a strong imagination, admittedly!
Hang on to your hats everyone, this is going to be one hell of a ride.
Personally, not open for debate, we need to draft a top notch hybrid (inside/outside) midfielder that is either
Walsh or Smith, I am happy with either.
If it comes to Walsh alone versus a creative trade that gives us Smith and Ben King in the draft, I would do it
in an instant. We are missing a long term "gorilla" key defender. Weitering, Marchbank, Macreadie and our
"third talls" are a quality bunch, but, as more interceptors, will struggle v a rampant Buddy, Lynch, Daniher,
Cox or Hawkins. I have some small hope BSOS would grow another cm or two and fill that role, but certainly
is speculative.
The non-negotiable from the next six days is to satisfy GWS for Setterfield.
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Doubtful. Don't see them wanting to trade down if they have 2/3. Better chance would be trying to get the other Adelaide club involved.
Anybody else they can get at 2/3.
SO JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR OUR PREFERENCE IS TO KEEP PICK 1. We are just being open to potential trades for pick #1 and things are heating up
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Could be it for trade week.
SOS has the ability to trade picks until the millisecond before pick 1 is read out. So draft pick swapping may not happen until 22nd of November!!
Walsh may well be the best by a country mile at TAC cup level but is he the best player in the draft pool ??
Didn’t the SA boys play against men with bigger mature bodies this year ?
Wonder where they would of rated if they played TAC cup all year....
Very tough to predict the order of top end talent coming from different comps and with so much more development to come.
Leave it to those that are closer to the action!
Didn’t the SA boys play against men with bigger mature bodies this year ?
Wonder where they would of rated if they played TAC cup all year....
Very tough to predict the order of top end talent coming from different comps and with so much more development to come.
Leave it to those that are closer to the action!
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Those suggesting Port give up Wines or Cows give up M Crouch I think really need to consider why on earth they would do that. Trades need to make some sort of sense for BOTH sides.
There do appear to be some legitimate "unique circumstances" that could see some further shuffling at the top end of the draft, though. We'd certainly be happy to keep 1 and take Walsh, but you'd have to think SOS would look at a top ~6 pick and something very useful for 1, which is almost have your cake and eat it too stuff. And there are reasons why you could see that working from the other side, being there's some ultra-talented SA guys who are perhaps just out of draft reach for Port and Crows as it stands. And both clubs hold strong draft pick hands, so could afford to consolidate/trade up.
But the Adelaide teams aren't gutting their squads to move up a few spots.
There do appear to be some legitimate "unique circumstances" that could see some further shuffling at the top end of the draft, though. We'd certainly be happy to keep 1 and take Walsh, but you'd have to think SOS would look at a top ~6 pick and something very useful for 1, which is almost have your cake and eat it too stuff. And there are reasons why you could see that working from the other side, being there's some ultra-talented SA guys who are perhaps just out of draft reach for Port and Crows as it stands. And both clubs hold strong draft pick hands, so could afford to consolidate/trade up.
But the Adelaide teams aren't gutting their squads to move up a few spots.
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GC would need to offer something extremely good for us to give away pick 1.
They are getting spooked with the SA boys?
What would GC offer us ?
They are getting spooked with the SA boys?
What would GC offer us ?
...For them, or am I missing something? Huge difference this year between pick 3 and pick 6, let alone 7 and 10.
Have to wonder how many picks will be traded between Wednesday, 17 October 8.30pm and Friday, 16 November 2pm
Current draft order is as follows:
1 Carlton
2 Gold Coast
3 Gold Coast
4 St.Kilda
5 Brisbane
6 Port Adelaide
7 Bulldogs
8 Adelaide
9 Essendon (going to GWS as part of Dylan Shiel deal)
10 Port Adelaide
11 Fremantle
12 Geelong
13 Adelaide
14 GWS Giants
15 Hawks
16 Adelaide
In top 7 picks Nick Blakey will be bid on by someone and then Swans will match bid and have a pick there and the other picks go down one spot. So Port's pick at 10 and Crows at 13 will effectively become 11 and 14. They will expect that too and will want to upgrade those picks into top 5 somehow.
If someone bids on North Taryn Thomas in top dozen picks similar thing could happen. I doubt dogs father son pick will be bid on in top ten so Dogs will want to keep pick 7 and grab a top liner with that and get Rhylee West with a later pick or Port go hard at dogs to give then Wingard and something else for pick 7. Then Port throw 6 and 7 together to try to climb into top 3. Hawks at pick 15 probably would like straight swap for Wingard with that pick. The proposed Hogan, Neale and May trades should also effect top 6 picks somehow.
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Yep another month of live speculation..... great!
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