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Does it worry anyone else that the guys who are in the high priced free agency wars seem to have pretty crap years after their mega-deal is done? Coniglio and Grundy haven't exactly set the world alight this year. Kelly hasn't seemed to become the next amazing midfielder that everyone thought...

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As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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Just like to thank Aphrodite and the other Carlton mods who started the Bluemours NON Discussion Thread and who have kept it free of chat over the past few years.

It helps so much when you just don't have the time to read through this thread, cheers and great job.

 

[Jimmae]

Now we know why Kennedy is being delisted.

Only now? I've been posting this for literally years.

Failed trade.

 

[Aphrodite]

In 2017 Shiel speculated that if he moved from GWS it would likely be to Carlton (his family’s club). By 2018, we enquired and he was initially very interested. Choco got him to Essendon. He wouldn’t be reflecting on that decision well!

Throughout 2019, Coniglio was very very keen to move to Carlton (also a team he once supported). By crunch time in trade week, the AFL, starry-eyed loyalty, and an ability to have great leverage at the Giants captaincy/staffing input, he stayed at GWS. They are not reflecting on that decision well!

Now in 2020, 3 key midfielders have expressed interest in the Blues (2 Dees. 1 Power), 3 halfback flankers (1 Giant, 1 Bomber, 1 Eagle) and a small Swans forward.

One of each section position would be ideal. Hopefully we are much more succesful this time - indications are that:

More players are seriously seeking us out.
More players are on the move.

If they come to Carlton in 2021 they’ll reflect on their decisions well!

 

[BoundbyKreuze]

Yeah Saints would be the ones we have to beat I reckon.

Could always go after a kid at saints that will get pushed out. Like coffield or hunter.

 

[FairKouta]

Only now? I've been posting this for literally years.

Failed trade.

Yup it sure is. We went hard for hopper I remember. What ifs

 

[AT97]

Club, or has Merrett approached us?

what have you heard arrow?

 

[La Dispute]

Kennedy the scape goat........This club has NFI - as if he is the only one. If where to delist players for all of that (which is bulldust) then stand in line McGov, etc...

Under normal conditions he'd probably get another year, but no real point carrying a VFL player on 300k pa with the list and salary cap reductions.

Maybe we will look to re-rookie him, but I wont be losing to much sleep over his probable departure. I had high hopes he'd be that second big bodied midfielder to help Cripps, but nothing ever materialised with him.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Only now? I've been posting this for literally years.

Failed trade.

Tell me Jimmae, apart from Ed, who is our tagger, who in our midfield, including our captain runs both ways and is accountable for opponent?
I'll nominate, Setterfield as closest to the pin currently, anyone else?

 

[Poorman53]

Re Kennedy tweet (which I doubt is completely true as it would go against what Teague had said in post game press conferences when Kennedy had done well he mentioned his improved spread) I wonder what the coaching staff think of McGovern's efforts

 

[FanofFev]

Tell me Jimmae, apart from Ed, who is our tagger, who in our midfield, including our captain runs both ways and is accountable for opponent?
I'll nominate, Setterfield as closest to the pin currently, anyone else?

Damn, you just made me realise how lazy our midfield is. Big pre season needed in terms of acquiring quality mids and also drilling game structures into their heads.

 

[Jimmae]

Tell me Jimmae, apart from Ed, who is our tagger, who in our midfield, including our captain runs both ways and is accountable for opponent?
I'll nominate, Setterfield as closest to the pin currently, anyone else?

I think that might be the point of Philp, but yes the numbers are thin on the ground.

That being said, it's my view that defensive positioning and bodywork at the stoppages is the key role of a midfield tag, and that can be taught to a lot of mids. Ideally I'd like a midfield unit that can each take their turn ghosting and shutting down an opponent when required.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Under normal conditions he'd probably get another year, but no real point carrying a VFL player on 300k pa with the list and salary cap reductions.

Maybe we will look to re-rookie him, but I wont be losing to much sleep over his probable departure. I had high hopes he'd be that second big bodied midfielder to help Cripps, but nothing ever materialised with him.

Disagree LD. When he played recently, he did very well and supported well and we where winning as he played his role. The coaches however didn't return the guy after injury. Poor form.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Damn, you just made me realise how lazy our midfield is. Big pre season needed in terms of acquiring quality mids and also drilling game structures into their heads.

Thank YOU!!!!! Coaches failure!!!!

 

[jimsta10]

Personally I think Saad is trying to squeeze dough from the Bombers. Just my gut..

 

[ferrisb]

Club has inquired about Merrett.

Nek minut Carlton drafts Jackson Merrett....

 

[rp84]

But it's not a 1-for-1 in that scenario, is it? It's Dow and a top 10 pick for a proven player.

As I said earlier, I'd give it some serious thought on the body of work Dow has put together so far. But I'd absolutely be expecting something around Pick 20 coming back.

Dreaming. Worth Dow and our first every day of the week.

 

[RoyalBlues]

Nek minut Carlton drafts Jackson Merrett....

This post definitely has merit , or merrett.

 

[Brackets]

In 2017 Shiel speculated that if he moved from GWS it would likely be to Carlton (his family’s club). By 2018, we enquired and he was initially very interested. Partner, teammate and $ issues got him to Essendon. He wouldn’t be reflecting on that decision well!

Throughout 2019, Coniglio was very very keen to move to Carlton (also a team he once supported). By crunch time in trade week, the AFL, starry-eyed loyalty, and an ability to have great leverage at the Giants captaincy/staffing input, he stayed at GWS. They are not reflecting on that decision well!

Now in 2020, 3 key midfielders have expressed interest in the Blues (2 Dees. 1 Power), 3 halfback flankers (1 Giant, 1 Bomber, 1 Eagle) and a small Swans forward.

One of each section position would be ideal. Hopefully we are much more succesful this time - indications are that:

More players are seriously seeking us out.
More players are on the move.

If they come to Carlton in 2021 they’ll reflect on their decisions well!

What have we done to make any player regret not choosing us? We've lost a coach and failed to make finals since.

 

[La Dispute]

Disagree LD. When he played recently, he did very well and supported well and we where winning as he played his role. The coaches however didn't return the guy after injury. Poor form.

He had a couple of decent games this year, but we've seen players delisted with far more comprehensive form behind them. I'd be happy to back him in, but I think we're being directed to the kinds of hard luck stories that are going to come about due to the impact of cap reductions.

I also think with the development of Setterfield and likely inclusion of Kemp next year he becomes surplus to our needs.

Maybe we're also anticipating at least one of Crouch/Viney/Wines to join too, which would certainly dent any opportunity for him in the coming years.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Now in 2020, 3 key midfielders have expressed interest in the Blues (2 Dees. 1 Power), 3 halfback flankers (1 Giant, 1 Bomber, 1 Eagle) and a small Swans forward.

Brayshaw and Viney?

 

[RoyalBlues]

What have we done to make any player regret not choosing us? We've lost a coach and failed to make finals since.

In Shiel’s case, better than Essendon

In Coniglio’s case, on a par with a recent Grand Finalist.

. . . some regrets there!

 

[RoyalBlues]

Brayshaw and Viney?

Viney and earlier on Oliver.

 

[Yubby]

In 2017 Shiel speculated that if he moved from GWS it would likely be to Carlton (his family’s club). By 2018, we enquired and he was initially very interested. Partner, teammate and $ issues got him to Essendon. He wouldn’t be reflecting on that decision well!

Throughout 2019, Coniglio was very very keen to move to Carlton (also a team he once supported). By crunch time in trade week, the AFL, starry-eyed loyalty, and an ability to have great leverage at the Giants captaincy/staffing input, he stayed at GWS. They are not reflecting on that decision well!

Now in 2020, 3 key midfielders have expressed interest in the Blues (2 Dees. 1 Power), 3 halfback flankers (1 Giant, 1 Bomber, 1 Eagle) and a small Swans forward.

One of each section position would be ideal. Hopefully we are much more succesful this time - indications are that:

More players are seriously seeking us out.
More players are on the move.

If they come to Carlton in 2021 they’ll reflect on their decisions well!

Are you able to share who the Eagles HBF is and the second Dees midfielder? I'm assuming Viney is one but unsure on the second, possibly Brayshaw?

 

[RoyalBlues]

Are you able to share who the Eagles HBF is and the second Dees midfielder? I'm assuming Viney is one but unsure on the second, possibly Brayshaw?

Jack Petruccelle (WCE)

 

[Blue__Balls]

Viney and earlier on Oliver.

Well if Viney is keen on us, it should get done no worries. RFA, Melbourne aren't flush with cap space, and they'll get a mid first as compensation.

 

[rp84]

Good relationship with Teague?

Judging on selection this year, that is a MASSIVE understatement.