Bluemour Melting Pot XXIII

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Does it worry anyone else that the guys who are in the high priced free agency wars seem to have pretty crap years after their mega-deal is done? Coniglio and Grundy haven't exactly set the world alight this year. Kelly hasn't seemed to become the next amazing midfielder that everyone thought...

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Bluemour Melting Pot XXVII

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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Just like to thank Aphrodite and the other Carlton mods who started the Bluemours NON Discussion Thread and who have kept it free of chat over the past few years.

It helps so much when you just don't have the time to read through this thread, cheers and great job.

 

[TheBlueCampaigner]

The dopers picked up Adam Saad for a future 2nd which turned out to be pick 29 in the 2018 draft. They will no doubt now expect two first rounders, Harry McKay and Cripper’s firstborn in return should he want to come to us..

 

[Stamos]

Pretty sure they got Cunners and Polson confused a few times on Saturday night

 

[Gethelred]

To be devil's advocate for a second... to those getting amped up about getting Kelly and Williams from the Giants;

Have these blokes been able to get it done in big games in what is a better midfield than ours?
Is the rest of the Giants list better or worse than ours?
Are they better coached than us?

Not saying they aren't really good players, but they are certainly not the silver bullet that rockets us to the GF. Most of that has to come internally, from what we already have. I think our ability to do that remains to be seen. Our biggest issues moving forward are our defensive work and stopping runs against us, which go a little hand in hand. Kelly and Williams (offensive types) are certainly not aiding us in that area...

I would argue that our biggest issue is conserving possession, whether going forward or down back. And attack is its own form of defence.

Kelly and Williams would provide speed, accumulation, and transition; they make us so much better it is positively an outrageous statement you're making here. Would we concede so many of these 5 goal runs if instead of going through these periods of games in which we pepper the forward half with ball and dominating proceedings without scoring, we've the players to turn that from a goalless term into a 2-3 goal quarter, minimum?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Pretty sure they got Cunners and Polson confused a few times on Saturday night

Can't have been too many times, Polson didn't get many touches.

 

[Gethelred]

Its probably closer to buying the bottle 11 years ago and only cracking the lid today...

Better hope it's wine or whisky.

 

[Mezzoculo]

Better hope it's wine or whisky.

Good point. Not sure of the shelf life on a cask of fruity lexia....

 

[SurreyBlue]

Kelly and Williams are exactly what we need this off season. These 2 alone would do it but not getting my hopes up.

 

[Metalcrusher]

Kelly and Williams are exactly what we need this off season. These 2 alone would do it but not getting my hopes up.

Kelly is a long shot.

 

[FairKouta]

Look you guys we all know kelly isn’t coming.
Realistically we can get Williams and maybe saad. Think crouch may be an option. We could end up with a few fringe players and Williams or saad only. Like all the other trade periods. So I’m gonna calm my farm and suggest you do the same.

 

[Treesloth]

Pretty sure they got Cunners and Polson confused a few times on Saturday night

An insult to the great and noble house of Cuningham

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Williams, Saad and throw in Narkle, and i'd be extremely content.

 

[Own The Future]

Look you guys we all know kelly isn’t coming.
Realistically we can get Williams and maybe saad. Think crouch may be an option. We could end up with a few fringe players and Williams or saad only. Like all the other trade periods. So I’m gonna calm my farm and suggest you do the same.

I don’t want to be a pessimist, but after the letdown of last offseason (admittedly we did end up getting Martin for free so the disappointment was eased eventually) I am not getting my hopes up either.
Williams being a FA is a little more cause for hope as it’s not reliant on another team coming to an agreement. The Saad talk concerns me greatly as we all know how much of a douche Dodoro is to deal with. Even if Saad nominates us we are obviously not guaranteed to get him.
So while I’m not resigned to the fact that we will come up empty handed, I am also reluctant to get too excited.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Williams, Saad and throw in Narkle, and i'd be extremely content.

Narkle falls under "he had a good game against us" Rule?

 

[slashin_velvet]

Pretty sure they got Cunners and Polson confused a few times on Saturday night

At least 28 & 29 look similar from a distance. 31 looks nothing like 28 ....and neither does the player.

 

[Blueyourmyboy!!]

Williams, Saad and throw in Narkle, and i'd be extremely content.

Williams, saad and Graham would be better

 

[Just Kreuzing]

I don’t want to be a pessimist, but after the letdown of last offseason (admittedly we did end up getting Martin for free so the disappointment was eased eventually) I am not getting my hopes up either.
Williams being a FA is a little more cause for hope as it’s not reliant on another team coming to an agreement. The Saad talk concerns me greatly as we all know how much of a douche Dodoro is to deal with. Even if Saad nominates us we are obviously not guaranteed to get him.
So while I’m not resigned to the fact that we will come up empty handed, I am also reluctant to get too excited.

Maybe just maybe...., the failure from Dodoro to accept 2 first rounders last year for Daniher might cause a rethink of strategy with an emphasis on getting picks/talent in instead of playing hardball.

Worsfold has mentioned a few times about not having access to draft picks or enough young talen.... can’t help but think he was referring to the clubs recruiting strategy and in particular the failure of Dodoro directly.

Extreme pressure on Dodoro to rectify his mistakes and get picks/talent in.

 

[spry]

We can’t continue with SOS’s tragic record of recruiting by getting not one BUT TWO GWS PLAYERS!

I mean if we’re serious as a club about breaking the cycle we need to say no to both Williams and Kelly. Need to draw the line.



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[RPCB]

Its probably closer to buying the bottle 11 years ago and only cracking the lid today...

Can‘t wait to read his follow up post when we win number 19.

 

[Crippablues]

Just a few reminders so we don't have to keep doing this over and over:

- McGovern is contracted until 2023
- We have pick 7
- It's spelt Cuningham

Not saying you are wrong, but google says he is out of contract at end of 2020. [emoji2369]

I'm confused

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[MrJimmy]

You would think Gov's contract was front loaded. On top of that he will probably do the classic move of firing in his last year of contract.

Thats called doing a Waite.

IIRC Lance Whitnall was pretty good at this as well...

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Narkle falls under "he had a good game against us" Rule?

Nah, he falls under the can't get a game ahead of Dangerfield, Selwood, Duncan, Guthrie, Menegola rule....

 

[Aphrodite]

Not saying you are wrong, but google says he is out of contract at end of 2020. [emoji2369]

I'm confused

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This is from 2018 ...

OFFICIAL: Swans help Blues seal McGovern deal

UPDATE: Carlton lands big Crow with help from Sydney

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McGovern, 23, requested a trade to Ikon Park last month, despite extending his contract at Adelaide through to the end of 2020 in August last year.

Contracted until end of 2023.

 

[RPCB]

Not saying you are wrong, but google says he is out of contract at end of 2020. [emoji2369]

I'm confused

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The following thread is more accurate than anything google or sites like Footywire will have.

Resource - Carlton Football Club Team List and Contract Status

Note: This thread is for official announcements only. Please direct all discussion to the relevant player threads - click on the player name below to be redirected! Number Name Contract Expiry Source 2024 List Notes 1 2 Lachlan Cowan 2028 Here Senior 3 Jesse Motlop 2027...

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[Revenant1995]

I don’t want to be a pessimist, but after the letdown of last offseason (admittedly we did end up getting Martin for free so the disappointment was eased eventually) I am not getting my hopes up either.
Williams being a FA is a little more cause for hope as it’s not reliant on another team coming to an agreement. The Saad talk concerns me greatly as we all know how much of a douche Dodoro is to deal with. Even if Saad nominates us we are obviously not guaranteed to get him.
So while I’m not resigned to the fact that we will come up empty handed, I am also reluctant to get too excited.

I'd like to think that if Norf have also talked with Saad's management, and they could mention PSD, that could help shake things loose... I'd be happy if we just got Williams... If any other such as Saad or Graham, I'll be very happy... With Charlie and Newman back next year, plus addition of Kemp, and at least one other player making the jump, I'm not so down on next year's prospects...

 

[Mr_Plow]

Not saying you are wrong, but google says he is out of contract at end of 2020. [emoji2369]

I'm confused

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Google isn't always right. Pretty sure barass70 has made the call that McGovern is contracted for a few more years.