Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%

  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%

  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%

  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Total voters
    74

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Fwoy said:
Interesting book...

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Never heard of the book or John Coleman, I did a quick search on the googlemachine and I've ordered the book, thanks for the link.
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
I wonder if we will ever get to the stage of like

"Hi Owen, this is Dr Smith, he has been working here for 25 years and specialising in oncology for 20, he will be taking care of your treatment"
"Yeah I dont care, I want to speak to a scientist. Can someone please get me a scientist?, Im not doing anything until I hear from a scientist"
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Treating cancer is actually a lot like witchcraft. They have some vague idea of stuff that might work.

Maybe scientists will solve it.
 

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Mark McGowan said he didn’t allow anyone to film the first vaccine in W.A based on doctors advice and he would always do what the doctors tell him

Question is. Which doctor is telling him “Smoking is fine. Doesn’t use up any extra medical resources and isn’t dangerous at all”
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Medical experts assure me absinthe is fine to sell in every bottle shop across the state and a McDonalds on every corner is good for the welfare of our people

Organised sport however will stop in winter as per the advice from medical experts. Need to stop flus from spreading...
 
burge13 said:
Staggering

The sheep will have no part of this though. In the face of all logic and common sense, they will argue lockdowns achieved so much good

Oh and those in the vid arent sheep approved experts
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They're too well qualified to be sheep approved.

Dr Michael Yeadon is a co-founder of Ziarco and CEO. He is an Allergy & Respiratory therapeutic area expert, developed out of deep knowledge of biology & therapeutics, and is an innovative drug discoverer with over 25 years of experience in drug discovery and development. Dr Yeadon has published over 40 original research articles and since 2011 has consulted to more than 20 biotechnology companies.

Prior to consulting as an independent, he was Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the A&R Research Unit of Pfizer. At Pfizer, Dr Yeadon was responsible for target selection and the progress into humans of new molecules, leading teams of up to 200 staff across all disciplines and won an Achievement Award for productivity in 2008. Under his leadership the unit invented oral and inhaled NCEs which delivered positive clinical proofs of concept in asthma, allergic rhinitis and COPD. He led productive external collaborations and was involved in product and device licensing.

Prior to Pfizer, Dr Yeadon worked at the Wellcome Research Labs with Salvador Moncada with a research focus on airway hyper-responsiveness and effects of pollutants including ozone and working in drug discovery of 5-LO, COX, NO and lung inflammation. With colleagues, he was the first to detect exhaled NO in animals and later to induce NOS in lung via allergic triggers. He attended the University of Surrey in Guildford, U.K, where he received his PhD (under Professor Ian Kitchen), with thesis work in the respiratory field, and a BSc, First Class, with Joint Honours, in Biochemistry and Toxicology.

Dr Roger Hodgkinson received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).

He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.

Dr. Hodkinson is a broadly experienced clinical pathologist who holds medical degrees from Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Prior to his association with MutantDx, he was the CEO of Stirrat Laboratories, a large retail diagnostic medical laboratory in Alberta, Canada. Dr. Hodkinson is a Past President of the Alberta Society of Laboratory Physicians (ASLP), which represents pathologists in Alberta, Canada, and was a key player in the restructuring of the $250M diagnostic laboratory industry in that Province.

He has acted as a laboratory accreditation inspector, and was previously Chairman of the Examination Committee in General Pathology for the Royal College of Physicians of Canada. He is a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists and has been the Medical Director of a CLIA laboratory. Dr. Hodkinson is a co-author of publications based on MultiGEN technology.
 
Venkman said:
Your still quoting the most garbage sources. Basically anytime you hear that a conspiracy requires the greatest degree of complexity to implement than any other hitherto existing conspiracy then it's bs: 911 was a conspiracy, Gates puts microchips in vaccines to control you like a robot and make you sterile etc. If the covid vaccine does this it would be a pretty big deal. I personally know at least ten people that had the pfizer or az vaccine and they are fine - don't believe the crazy internet stuff.
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They're not garbage sources if are the documents that Pfizer gave to the FDA which were more comprehensive that the minuscule amount they've published.

From that document, there is doubt over the efficacy of the data as the BJM article by Doshi and Dr Clancy articulated. The so called 85 or 90% efficacy may have been 20% if all the subjects that had CIVID symptoms were tested.

You complain there are no sources, but you don't bother to read of them and in fact you are the one sprouting conspiracy theories by sprouting data that is not backed by evidence.

I asked for the data on Israel, as they were acting as guinea pigs for Pfizer and the registered deaths from COVID had increased 10 times after vaccination started in Israel. Deaths by coincidence again?

Anyhow I did find data on Israel in pre print up to the 9th Feb 2021, in an efforts to estimate the true real-world effectiveness of the Pfizer injection. Their analysis suggests that high effectiveness of the vaccine only starts after three weeks, which coincides with the administration of the 2nd dose.

The Lancet published correspondence based on the early reports and warn against the dangerous implementation of having 12 weeks in-between the two Pfizer injections, as the UK is doing and like Australia is recommending.

"We do not support the second dose being delayed to 12 weeks, as implemented by UK Chief Medical Officers. The latter followed recommendations by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), based on unplanned, retrospective analysis and unwarranted assumptions.

mRNA vaccines had never been used therapeutically in humans. The JCVI assumption that mRNA vaccines (BNT162b2 and Moderna's mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 vaccine) would behave similarly to the AZD1222 viral vector DNA vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca is not supported by published evidence.

An efficacy of 52·4% was reported out to day 22 for BNT162b2, and efficacy of 50–60% has been reported in observational cohort studies from Israel covering the same period.

Just to clear up a few points, these are not vaccines, which specifically have to stimulate an immunity in the person receiving and disrupt transmission. All the approved vaccine manufacturers have admitted that their injections do not stop you getting COVID or passing it on.

Instead Pfizer have been blatantly clear that this mRNA strand is a treatment. It's a synthetic pathogen designed on a spike protein to simulate a human cell to become a pathogen creator. The mRNA packaged in a fat envelope, acts as software for the body. It’s like giving people prophylactic chemo to stop cancer someone doesn't have yet.

The foreign Protein / antigen /poison enters your body and triggers an auto immune response, including HIV (false positive). Hundreds of medical conditions trigger a false positive HIV test, which is just a poisonous antigen detection test, and is the reason the Australian vaccine was cancelled.
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None of the testing of the injections completed pregnancy or sterility testing on animals. With a pathway for female sterility in previous animal studies, and warned about by Yeadon and Wodarg, the UK published guidelines stating, it's unknown if it has an impact on fertility.

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Also for male fertility the University of Miami are going to evaluate sperm production and sperm quality, of those who receive the COVID-19 vaccine. "We are going to evaluate sperm production and sperm quality for men who are thinking about fertility either at present or in the future and will receive the COVID-19 vaccine,”

The virus has an affinity for angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE-2) receptors, which are in many of the body’s organs, including the lungs, heart, intestines, kidneys, and testes."

While previous research suggests the virus can be present in testis tissue, questions remain about how much of the virus needs to be present in the testes to be detected in semen, as well as what threshold of viral load is needed in the semen to be sexually transmitted.


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Antibodies created from vaccine may target protein responsible for successful pregnancy, petition claims The doctors specifically highlight several vaccine candidates that help the patient create antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. The issue is, the protein responsible for the...
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BlueE said:
They're not garbage sources if are the documents that Pfizer gave to the FDA which were more comprehensive that the minuscule amount they've published.

From that document, there is doubt over the efficacy of the data as the BJM article by Doshi and Dr Clancy articulated. The so called 85 or 90% efficacy may have been 20% if all the subjects that had CIVID symptoms were tested.

You complain there are no sources, but you don't bother to read of them and in fact you are the one sprouting conspiracy theories by sprouting data that is not backed by evidence.

I asked for the data on Israel, as they were acting as guinea pigs for Pfizer and the registered deaths from COVID had increased 10 times after vaccination started in Israel. Deaths by coincidence again?

Anyhow I did find data on Israel in pre print up to the 9th Feb 2021, in an efforts to estimate the true real-world effectiveness of the Pfizer injection. Their analysis suggests that high effectiveness of the vaccine only starts after three weeks, which coincides with the administration of the 2nd dose.

The Lancet published correspondence based on the early reports and warn against the dangerous implementation of having 12 weeks in-between the two Pfizer injections, as the UK is doing and like Australia is recommending.

"We do not support the second dose being delayed to 12 weeks, as implemented by UK Chief Medical Officers. The latter followed recommendations by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), based on unplanned, retrospective analysis and unwarranted assumptions.

mRNA vaccines had never been used therapeutically in humans. The JCVI assumption that mRNA vaccines (BNT162b2 and Moderna's mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 vaccine) would behave similarly to the AZD1222 viral vector DNA vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca is not supported by published evidence.

An efficacy of 52·4% was reported out to day 22 for BNT162b2, and efficacy of 50–60% has been reported in observational cohort studies from Israel covering the same period.

Just to clear up a few points, these are not vaccines, which specifically have to stimulate an immunity in the person receiving and disrupt transmission. All the approved vaccine manufacturers have admitted that their injections do not stop you getting COVID or passing it on.

Instead Pfizer have been blatantly clear that this mRNA strand is a treatment. It's a synthetic pathogen designed on a spike protein to simulate a human cell to become a pathogen creator. The mRNA packaged in a fat envelope, acts as software for the body. It’s like giving people prophylactic chemo to stop cancer someone doesn't have yet.

The foreign Protein / antigen /poison enters your body and triggers an auto immune response, including HIV (false positive). Hundreds of medical conditions trigger a false positive HIV test, which is just a poisonous antigen detection test, and is the reason the Australian vaccine was cancelled.
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None of the testing of the injections completed pregnancy or sterility testing on animals. With a pathway for female sterility in previous animal studies, and warned about by Yeadon and Wodarg, the UK published guidelines stating, it's unknown if it has an impact on fertility.

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Also for male fertility the University of Miami are going to evaluate sperm production and sperm quality, of those who receive the COVID-19 vaccine. "We are going to evaluate sperm production and sperm quality for men who are thinking about fertility either at present or in the future and will receive the COVID-19 vaccine,”

The virus has an affinity for angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE-2) receptors, which are in many of the body’s organs, including the lungs, heart, intestines, kidneys, and testes."

While previous research suggests the virus can be present in testis tissue, questions remain about how much of the virus needs to be present in the testes to be detected in semen, as well as what threshold of viral load is needed in the semen to be sexually transmitted.


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Doctors Including Former Pfizer Respiratory VP & Chief Scientific Advisor File Petition – Covid Vaccine Could Be Linked to Infertility - NewsRescue.com

Antibodies created from vaccine may target protein responsible for successful pregnancy, petition claims The doctors specifically highlight several vaccine candidates that help the patient create antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. The issue is, the protein responsible for the...
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Nice try - you've included a real source that is considering the relative merits of the first vs second dose spacing with the usual spaced out mumbo jumbo like this guy wakefield whose anti MMR stuff is notorious. You then conflate it with a study about potential impacts on fertility - when the article suggests that the people undertaking the study already know that covid affects fertility. But I think your on the real conspiracy there.... apparently scomo's balls have already shrunk with his pfizer shot and they are not letting it out because it's a big zionist, illumanit gatesian cover up etc.
 
Im a big Russell Brand fan and I think he raises a great point in one of his recent videos



He kind of mentions the idea that the enemy of your enemy is your friend when it comes to the relationship with the media. In that as long as the reports are whipping up ratings and advertising revenue then you are reliant on your enemy being successful to report it and then profit from it. CNN are learning this the hard way. Now the enemy is beaten, their ratings are absolutely plummeting like a stone

I think it kind of lends itself to the popularity of the lockdowns. Lockdowns are somewhat of a enemy of humanity. I mean, thats why we have the prison system. The issue here though is, the media reports it, profits from it and therefore is reliant on driving it. It means that even if something is wrong, even if something is a harm, the media will report on it as a positive because by not doing so, they are driving away their revenue stream. Their is somewhat of a current day expectation that the media will report what it sees. This simply isnt true. Its a business, it needs to drive revenue, it needs to create prosperous conditions for itself and therefore it needs the lockdowns to record profit

The point is. The media is fast becoming a source of nothing. The sad truth is with its exposed bias for all to see, its kind of become no different to Married at First sight. Manufactured stories that dont ring true at its very core. As much as the guys want to say misinformation, thats not a trustworthy source, the sad truth is this. Its all misinformation and a trustworthy source is no longer a real thing.
 
One thing I didnt realise until yesterday is this. In W.A, I need to check in if I go to buy a chocolate from a deli, something which is no more then a 30 second transaction. I dont however have to check in if I jump on the local train, buy a ticket and spend a entire day travelling around the city on multiple trains coming in contact with thousands of people.

The logic or lack thereof is absolutely mind boggling. Lets lend ourselves to the why of this. Why wouldnt you do it? The sheer cost and organization required to set up what would be thousands of QR codes across multiple transport lines is a huge task. In the interest of public health the govt has been asking smalll business to undertake these huge tasks however when it comes to themselves, they put it in a too hard basket and slither away from the responsibility. Its weak as you can be

Ideally someone would call them out on it, but the machine wont call them out on it. They are too reliant on it to question it
 
Joey JoJo Shabad said:
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From the AU Gov website. So much for it being clinically tested & the sheepies coming here to troll recently telling us about the data & accused posters here for providing fake sources.

https://www.health.gov.au/ministers...RzMyfNQZ8cBsqH139rsoW_-4UyA4Gz5qKi7yXOttp_cDs

How the f.ck can Hunt claim it's safe, it's effective, But we're the lab rats :think:.
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The studies did show that some of the vaccines produced antibodies but they only lasted 3 months and no T cell immunity was produced.

There have been no studies done on the safety or effectiveness of delaying the second injection for 3 months but Boris says it's OK. Israel data recently published indicate the effectiveness is dramatically lowered when delaying the second injection, so why are Australia recommending to do that?

Delaying the second injection dramatically increases the possibility of ADE or pathogenic priming. But hey, lets just tell everyone they're privileged to get an injection and they're in short supply to make people want one.

I'm also absolutely appalled they're going to take the -70 degree Pfizer injection to remote Indigenous communities where it's never been tested anywhere in the world on that population for safety or efficacy.

It's not a vaccine and doesn't act as a vaccine to protect from getting the infection or passing it on!!
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Venkman said:
Nice try - you've included a real source that is considering the relative merits of the first vs second dose spacing with the usual spaced out mumbo jumbo like this guy wakefield whose anti MMR stuff is notorious. You then conflate it with a study about potential impacts on fertility - when the article suggests that the people undertaking the study already know that covid affects fertility. But I think your on the real conspiracy there.... apparently scomo's balls have already shrunk with his pfizer shot and they are not letting it out because it's a big zionist, illumanit gatesian cover up etc.
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If its non exsistence is proof it doesnt exist we would essentially discover nothing going forward. A part of science is research and discovery. We need to look for things that we cannot openly see to find if they are. I would think and this whole discovery program takes more then 1 year in that sense.

I mean unless they have a time machine, how do you propose they study the long term effects of this right now and give you the answer right now? Its just not possible. Im not a huge fan or believer of judging the science from yesterday to propose the direction for the next 5 years. Id like to think science evolves and continues to search for improvement along the way and or in this case, continue to search for answers and for potential side effects

You can proclaim misinformation wah wah all you want, but dont claim science as a complete. You will never be right
 
Venkman said:
Nice try - you've included a real source that is considering the relative merits of the first vs second dose spacing with the usual spaced out mumbo jumbo like this guy wakefield whose anti MMR stuff is notorious. You then conflate it with a study about potential impacts on fertility - when the article suggests that the people undertaking the study already know that covid affects fertility. But I think your on the real conspiracy there.... apparently scomo's balls have already shrunk with his pfizer shot and they are not letting it out because it's a big zionist, illumanit gatesian cover up etc.
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Wot! I've read all the original sources that Pfizer and Oxford AZ published and 80 page .pdf given to US drug regulators but you look for one name and say this is crap. Where have I mentioned this zionist, illumanit gatesian?

You don't understand Pfizer hasn't even published what their spike protein was modelled on (would be anything), or what placebo they used when at least Oxford AZ admitted using meningitis. None of the research on the three approved injections prevented NHP getting COVID when challenged with the SARS CoV 2 virus.

You either haven't read or don't understand anything I posted, including potential impacts on fertility of taking the injections which they suspect but don't know the impact of yet. They did recommend subjects freeze their sperm just in case, and it makes taking Zn with the HCQ or IVM protocols far more important.
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
One thing I didnt realise until yesterday is this. In W.A, I need to check in if I go to buy a chocolate from a deli, something which is no more then a 30 second transaction. I dont however have to check in if I jump on the local train, buy a ticket and spend a entire day travelling around the city on multiple trains coming in contact with thousands of people.

The logic or lack thereof is absolutely mind boggling. Lets lend ourselves to the why of this. Why wouldnt you do it? The sheer cost and organization required to set up what would be thousands of QR codes across multiple transport lines is a huge task. In the interest of public health the govt has been asking smalll business to undertake these huge tasks however when it comes to themselves, they put it in a too hard basket and slither away from the responsibility. Its weak as you can be

Ideally someone would call them out on it, but the machine wont call them out on it. They are too reliant on it to question it
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From Transperth website ...


When travelling with us there are a few things that we ask you do:
  • Use a SmartRider when you are travelling. Please make sure it is registered and keep your registration up to date. You can do this here: Registering your SmartRider card (transperth.wa.gov.au)
  • When using the Free Transit Zone (FTZ) please use a SmartRider and tag on and off each service. You will not be charged a fare if your journey starts and finishes within the FTZ
  • When travelling on CAT buses, please use the SafeWA app and scan the QR code on board each bus. As the code is unique to each CAT bus, you will need to do this on every CAT service you travel on. Details on the SafeWA app can be found here: COVID-19 coronavirus: SafeWA (www.wa.gov.au)

So a registered SmartRider is your 'check in'.
 
This is a reminder of what was posted with Sweden's death rate per million of population being not as bad as other bad flu years and same as normal deaths since the 70s. Sweden never locked down so you can't say the measures they took stopped excess deaths.



SCB has dropped its final 2020 stats on deaths for Sweden. This chart is a breakdown by age for both sexes compared to 2018. Most notably, there's no excess among children and people of working age and no excess deaths for people under 75.

"With the resources spent/lost on locking down people below 75 years old, I'm sure we could have devised a far superior targeted approach for those who need it and request it. We don't need to demolish our society, economy, and the lives of future generations to save lives."

 
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