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Wisbey's take on it and what he thinks too high an expectation of where he is at re being a kpf.

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12:33 06/06/21 Sun
Author: Colin Wisbey
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 180.216.215.241
Subject: For Ash's sake, I wish people would stop over-selling him
In reply to: Muddy 's message, "Hine’s appraisal of our new Mid-season recruits is exciting." on 11:29 06/06/21 Sun

Ash does have some talent, his best marks are spectacular (especially crash-the-pack) huge leaps, and he's dual-sided (albeit mixed-bag outcomes).

That said, he's a long way from a finished item. In particular, his on-field ethic and (non-marking) intensity needs to improve by an order of magnitude.

I would describe him as some chance of making AFL but far from definite, and certainly not a messiah.

Collingwood is desperate for a go-to marking KF but IMHO we (including Derek) should not let that tempt us to over-sell / over-hype Johnson. Ash has enough pressure on him already. As much as possible, let him quietly find his feet in the "background".

He's come a long way in a couple of years but he's still finding his game. I do feel he has scope for improvement, possibly significant improvement. However his game at this stage is too one-dimensional IMHO.

And, for all the hype about his athleticism, yes, he has a very big leap and that is very eye-catching. However, too many of his eye-catching moments, although spectacular, can be categorised as "unrealistic attempts" rather than actual big *grabs* (marks).

Perspective. Last year, he played 4 SANFL League (aka Seniors) games then 3 Reserves games then back to League for another 2 games.

His 2021 for has been promising but not consistent, let alone "breaking the (AFL appeal) door down".

I struggle to imagine him as a KF at AFL level. (Certainly he won't be up against many 188cm opponents at AFL). I hope he proves me wrong but I strongly see him as a "3rd tall", rather than KP.

That said, at the very least, he improves our list because our list is desperate for a good height forward who can take a big grab.

[Important consideration re form: He's been playing as KF for a very ordinary team that struggles to get decent ball into its F50 and tends to get overrun in H2/Q4. Being FF for Sturt is not exactly an easy gig).
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loki04 said:
Wisbey's take on it and what he thinks too high an expectation of where he is at re being a kpf.
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No One from the Mid-Season is Seen as someone who going to be an All-Austrian Type. Be Happy Coming Good to Very Good AFL Player.

Like Hearing he still has a Big Upside but though has a Bust Factor to him
 

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TradeDraft said:
No One from the Mid-Season is Seen as someone who going to be an All-Austrian Type. Be Happy Coming Good to Very Good AFL Player.

Like Hearing he still has a Big Upside but though has a Bust Factor to him
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Yup we need natural fwd talent and xfactor in front of the ball, but his comments are around the expectations that he will fill a KP post. See's him as a 3rd tall fwd type.
 
loki04 said:
Yup we need natural fwd talent and xfactor in front of the ball, but his comments are around the expectations that he will fill a KP post. See's him as a 3rd tall fwd type.
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Think most people see him as a 3rd Tall.

He won't be a Main Target but someone who could be be 2nd or 3rd Tall that can come in and take Pack Marks.

Agree still a Big Need we need on the Team/List is Good Forwards
 
sr36 said:
Madge has been training with the defenders, I think we really need to give Madge half a season in the role to see if he clicks before we think about moving him from the forward line.
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I think I just vomited into my mouth (more than) a little... :sick:
 
Jen2310 said:
Yeah. Its why he hadn't played in the sanfl last few weeks.
Has an ankle injury. Minor I think. But you'd think by now its healed up
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I thought he was told by a Club not to play 2 weeks ago in the SANFL?
 

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TradeDraft said:
I thought he was told by a Club not to play 2 weeks ago in the SANFL?
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Thats just what someone said.
And given he didn't know the club was selecting him until moments before his name read out, I doubt they would have said not to play
 
TradeDraft said:
He missed some Goals he should of Kicked and had an Open Goal and WHE Ran Him Down
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Looked dangerous and scored two goals. Don’t think getting run down was his fault when his teammate ran in his way. He looks like a decent player who won’t be a star to me.
 
We could give him the nickname Neon Leon always wanted;

“Magic” Johnson.
 
gouki88 said:
Let’s hope he kicks some clutch goals, else the Tragic Johnson nickname will undoubtedly re-emerge
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Really, that happened? Huh…
 
sr36 said:
Madge has been training with the defenders, I think we really need to give Madge half a season in the role to see if he clicks before we think about moving him from the forward line.
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If he doesn't make it as a forward, we can always try him as a big bodied midfielder, before reverting back to the wing.
 
Daicos Torpedo said:
A massive stretch i know.
Ablett senior was only 185cm tall.
Was about 23 into his 2nd year at Geelong after being at Hawthorn at 20 and then back to Drouin for a year. Just reading his Wikipedia footy facts is incredible.
Any footy journey can take off at any time.
Look at Swanny
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If be thinking more like Tony Lockett.

But seriously, he can kick 2 goals a game in SA footy league, what's all this hype about a 23 year old being the saviour?
 
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