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Exactly - I suppose I was in a more gentle manner trying to get some of the very vocal and passionate posters here to start to acknowledge it...
Re: Border - the same Democrats who are pushing mandates around the vaccine and masks are letting record numbers of illegal immigrants through the border untested. Then moving them throughout the country. There has been a lot happening in the states and so little to be seen over here and nothing on here...
This is a good start.
Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan
Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.
And for those saying the Hunter laptop was a fake and had been fact checked false... this isn't an I told you so but more that everyone should be pissed Twitter and Facebook have such huge power to blow off a story that is at the very least true and pass it off as completely false just prior to an election.....
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Hunter is now selling his art for up to $500k a pop but just like being on the board of an oil and gas company despite having no credentials there is nothing to see here. The two politicians that imo have the least to hide on the Dems side are Tulsi and Bernie... Biden should be what everyone hates about politicians. I am sure there are those on both sides of the aisle that do it... I have disdain for them as well.
Opinion | Vindication Over Hunter’s Emails
Politico confirms the New York Post story the Bidens never denied.
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Hunter is now selling his art for up to $500k a pop but just like being on the board of an oil and gas company despite having no credentials there is nothing to see here. The two politicians that imo have the least to hide on the Dems side are Tulsi and Bernie... Biden should be what everyone hates about politicians. I am sure there are those on both sides of the aisle that do it... I have disdain for them as well.
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This is the guy who is set to become NSW's Premier.
Let that sink in for a moment...
Australian politics currently has more than enough right wing, ultra-conservative, religious, misogynistic pale white males in its ranks.
Where do these clowns even come from?!
Sigh...
Let that sink in for a moment...
Australian politics currently has more than enough right wing, ultra-conservative, religious, misogynistic pale white males in its ranks.
Where do these clowns even come from?!
Sigh...
Interesting take... what about his statement makes you believe he is 'right wing, ultra-conservative, religious, misogynistic'?
I thought Right Wing and Left Wing were the extremes of wither party (both of which end in authoritarian regimes. For example Nazi's (Fascism) and Russian/Chinese Socialism (Marxism). Everything else was Right or Left of Centre. Which of his policy positions are Right Wing? Or is your definition different?
Which religion is it that you have a problem with? Islam? Christian? Hindu? Buddhism? JW? Mormon? Jew? Wicca? And of each of those religions which branch of the religion do you so dislike and why? Or is it simply all of them?
What has he done that is Misogynistic (feeling, showing, or characterized by hatred of or prejudice against women)? Have you got evidence of something? I would like to see it if so, always good to learn and be informed. Not that it affects us too much in WA but there isn't a place for it in any political leadership.
And do you have an issue with White people? What would you suggest should be done to ensure there were less white people? Or less white men? And if so what policy would you put in place to make that work?
Very interested to hear your thoughts.
As to his opinion... I think it is possible that people had enough of Obama and that combined with Hillary being so unpopular led to the Trump win. In 2020 I think people had enough of the drama and tweets so we have Biden. In 2024... who knows, as I have mentioned above things aren't going so well.
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You're correct in that I utilised the wrong political term when labeling him "Right-Wing", I should have just referred to him as "Right".
Dominic is a known Christian, and that in itself is not a crime. To answer your query, I have no prejudice against any religion, In fact, I will even tolerate Satanism! Lol
What I do begrudge, is when religious ideologies infiltrate and steer the political regimes of politicians (SCOMO is one such MP that quite clearly has difficulty ensuring his religious rhetoric does not muddy his addresses at times). His PR team also ensured that images and footage of he and his family embracing his Churches ceremonies were littered across his campaign trail. I understand that you may be religious, and that such instances are of no consequence to you, and I can accept that viewpoint also.
In regard to tarnishing Dominic with the same brush and bestowing him with a misogynistic label - I shouldn't have, but some of his beliefs could be construed as mildy misogynistic (he voted against decriminalising abortion).
Here are some of his other previous Facebook musings:
"If you question man-made climate change, you are not a sceptic.
"If you support stronger borders, you are not a racist.
"If you want a plebiscite on same sex marriage, you are not a homophobe.
"If you love your country, you are not an extremist."
"These are mainstream values that people should be free to articulate without fear of ridicule or persecution by the Left."
I have no problem with white people, nor do I have issue with men (being one myself), but I yearn to see greater multiculturalism and gender equality in Federal Parliament. How this can be accomplished? Reforms in the democratic process? I'm not sure.
In closing, our political views and opinions may differ (or they may not), but I will ensure I maintain civility in this thread at all times and respect opposing views.
Dominic is a known Christian, and that in itself is not a crime. To answer your query, I have no prejudice against any religion, In fact, I will even tolerate Satanism! Lol
What I do begrudge, is when religious ideologies infiltrate and steer the political regimes of politicians (SCOMO is one such MP that quite clearly has difficulty ensuring his religious rhetoric does not muddy his addresses at times). His PR team also ensured that images and footage of he and his family embracing his Churches ceremonies were littered across his campaign trail. I understand that you may be religious, and that such instances are of no consequence to you, and I can accept that viewpoint also.
In regard to tarnishing Dominic with the same brush and bestowing him with a misogynistic label - I shouldn't have, but some of his beliefs could be construed as mildy misogynistic (he voted against decriminalising abortion).
Here are some of his other previous Facebook musings:
"If you question man-made climate change, you are not a sceptic.
"If you support stronger borders, you are not a racist.
"If you want a plebiscite on same sex marriage, you are not a homophobe.
"If you love your country, you are not an extremist."
"These are mainstream values that people should be free to articulate without fear of ridicule or persecution by the Left."
I have no problem with white people, nor do I have issue with men (being one myself), but I yearn to see greater multiculturalism and gender equality in Federal Parliament. How this can be accomplished? Reforms in the democratic process? I'm not sure.
In closing, our political views and opinions may differ (or they may not), but I will ensure I maintain civility in this thread at all times and respect opposing views.
I appreciate you being civil as I was civil. So thank you.
I am not religious - just looking for consistency in how we treat everyone.
Re: It becoming a part of who they are etc... Rudd did the same. I hope you felt the same way about him then? For consistency sake. Politicians from both sides have and continue to do this... not Psaki talking about their Catholic president... I prefer the religious person who is consistent than the non religious who pretends they are for votes.
I also think it is hard for any religious or philosophical beliefs to not influence politics. I don't know how you could separate them from any individual and therefore don't see how they could be completely separate from politics. In general (assumption) if someone believes something strongly and that believes that set of beliefs will help people (could be anything not a formal religion), then politics is one of the avenues they will pursue to help people. Socialism could be their belief system and they pursue it through volunteering at a care facility or politics.
I don't see how the climate change statement could be close to misogynistic... it isn't in the same stratosphere. Having said that, I agree with his statement... perhaps not with his intent, but we don't know his intent from the quote you have pulled. For example, I questioned man made climate change. That questioning led to research, reading a heap of books, blog and a few articles... The questioning led me to wholly think man made climate change is true. I then did some research into how I can make a difference and have invested in a couple of startups, mainly to do with bees. Bees are going to be a big part of how we look after and ensure the future of the planet...
"If you support stronger borders, you are not a racist.
Agree - in fact there are a lot of people on the left who love that McGowan has shut the border. As one example. Personally I think we should have strong borders, and that could enable more refugees and more migration. That is a massive topic. However, what is happening in the US at the moment is being made worse by record numbers of Illegal immigrants and the Cartels, traffikers etc that are taking advantage of it. In fact, I think it could possibly be argued that strong borders could reduce sex trafficking into countries. If so (and I am not sure - but I think it is plausible) then it is definitely not anti women.
"If you want a plebiscite on same sex marriage, you are not a homophobe.
Again, not sure what this has to do with him being anti women... as a statement I agree from a principle POV although I have no problem with same sex marriage. I am constantly pulled between things getting done and the people having a say on important topics. This is a massive conversation and one that there is little point discussing now - however, I don't think saying put it to the vote makes you a homophobe. I am not saying I agree with him on this or not, just that I don't think that statement makes you a homophobe.
"If you love your country, you are not an extremist."
Surely, there is nothing controversial in that statement. I love Australia - the weather, the beaches, the country, the river, how good life is here... mostly. Loving one's country should not be conflated with hating another country. When I watch the Olympics (didn't get to this year beyond an event or two) I support the Aussies. I love it when we win. When we beat the poms... when we used to beat the All Blacks (been such a long time)... none of that should be extreme, it should all be pretty normal.
I can say there are very few countries in the world that I would have wanted my or my wife's families to immigrate to more than Australia and that I am thankful they came here. Is that extreme? I could point to hundreds of countries that I would not have wanted them to go too. I can do that without hate for those countries and without a sense of superiority. My wife had half her aunties and grandparents (grandma's sisters and families) not be allowed entry due to not being white enough. There is no superiority here, but I am thankful. Our Grandma is thankful. She came here and worked hard and sent money back. The families have thrived, we still partner with them now to build hospitals and orphanges. When Covid is done we are launching a business centre for women.
We had donations from both sides of politics for the last project.
Perhaps context is missing or people are reading into it. No idea.
"These are mainstream values that people should be free to articulate without fear of ridicule or persecution by the Left."
Not anti women and this should not be a shocking statement.
Decriminalising abortion - I am not aware of that. Read a couple of articles. I am not sure what the law was before, was it legal for a certain amount of weeks but less than 22?
I dislike the name calling and heavy accusations - The interwebs have made it far to easy to say strong things imo... If you had said something like what I have written below I wouldn't have an issue at all.
I don't like this guy, seems ultra conservative. I don't think we need more of that in politics. Was against abortion, that is rubbish...May mix religion with politics too much (evidence? or is he just religious?). Poor pick, hope he gets smashed at the next election.
Anyway - I am far more concerned with the fact we have done nothing about our health system while sitting with pretty much zero Covid issues here... As discussed above.
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And for those saying the Hunter laptop was a fake and had been fact checked false... this isn't an I told you so but more that everyone should be pissed Twitter and Facebook have such huge power to blow off a story that is at the very least true and pass it off as completely false just prior to an election.....
Opinion | Vindication Over Hunter’s Emails
Politico confirms the New York Post story the Bidens never denied.
Hunter is now selling his art for up to $500k a pop but just like being on the board of an oil and gas company despite having no credentials there is nothing to see here. The two politicians that imo have the least to hide on the Dems side are Tulsi and Bernie... Biden should be what everyone hates about politicians. I am sure there are those on both sides of the aisle that do it... I have disdain for them as well.
Can't read that 'confirmation' story because its content that you have to sign up for, but surely it was people who gave Twitter and Facebook its power by signing up to it and using its services - so is what you're really saying mean that people should be pissed that they made Twitter and Facebook popular in the first place?
The reason the Twitter boss gave for suspending the account of the New York Post was that there was a violation of their hacked information policy. Whether or not the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden wasn't the reason- nor was it whether what was claimed to be in the contents of the laptop were real or fake - and what was being spread around on twitter was more than just a the couple of emails that this fellow from who has written a book on the Biden's says were real.
Twitter's actions can be seen in taking a side in the election, and making up a clause in their policies to justify that, and that the act of banning on a popular medium suggests to all its users that that the story is fake, but does it count as censorship?
I would have thought as a private company Twitter were in their right to do that, and even to be biased and inconsistent about what they ban and what they don't. The New York Post uses Twitter to promote their story. The story was still available to read in the New York Post. The New York Post was suspended from Twitter, it wasn't banned from the internet. The New York Post "journalists" like Australia's own Miranda Devine were still free to complain on twitter about the New York Post account being suspended and to alert people as to where they could read the story they were trying to promote.
They gave the hacking reason except it was not hacked. It became the store owners property as the laptop has been left there past a certain period of time. The hacking thing would be half believable if when info on Trump (taxes) that was spread and gained through hacking was also suspended and blovked etc. It was not.
What would you call censorship? Story comes out from one of the oldest papers in the States. Story is now confirmed as true. At the time, without any investigation they labelled it as false and blocked it from being seen on their platform. Facebook followed. Then the left media (CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS etc) all said it was false by reason of Twitter and facebook saying it was. I brought it up in this thread and was told it was false because... twitter and facebook said it was....
The Biden's have never denied it. Hunter and his Uncle were taking money from other countries to buy influence from Joe Biden. Everyone on all sides of politics should be outraged. Most due to partisan leanings will not allow themselves to be bothered because they will not allow themselves to believe it is true. Why? The narrative was set by Twitter and Facebook and it was one that Dems wanted to be true so it became so. Anyone in Australia who has a problem with the Murdoch media should have a massive issue with this... my guess, due to partisanship they wont.
The other part of this is that they claim they are a platform not a publisher. In this instance they refused to publish.
It stinks... I don't understand why people cannot acknowledge it reeks.
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Does any of this change what Twitter is and why people use it. What do you want to happen to Twitter for doing what they did?
I think they if they are sometimes going to act as a publisher they should be treated as one. Either they are or they are not.
You are yet to acknowledge it was terrible on behalf of Twitter, FB and the MSM. Will you acknowledge that?
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I don't think its terrible for the reasons explained. I think Twitter is a generally filled with a lot of harmful lies but that's a different issue. ( I won't comment on Facebook as I don't interact there and I have no idea who MSM is). I don't see what difference it makes whether Twitter is defined as a publisher or not.
I don't see Twitter as much more than a place that people and organizations use voluntarily to promote things, often their point of view. You don't have to be on it. If you don't like what Twitter does and how influential it is then don't use it. You can't tell them who they can or can't choose to ban from using their services. The upshot of when they banned Trump was going to be that all his followers were going to leave and that Trump was going to build a new platform that was going to be bigger and better than Twitter. Well go on and do that.
I don't see that your complaint as being any different than if I owned the most popular store in a town, the one with the easiest access and the biggest distribution and lets say there's a copy of a local newspaper that had a story that I didn't like that was printed about my friend. Its in my rights to discontinue stocking that paper and to put a big sign up at the front of the store telling my customers that the reason I no longer stock that newspaper is because what was written about my friend was a pack of lies. Whether I'm right or wrong is immaterial.
On a minor point, I also don't agree that that original story in the New York Post has been vindicated as being 100% accurate.
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It represents a serious corruption of influence when an information utility (choosing my words carefully there) decides to suppress information that they deem would be politically destabilising to their preferred outcome. It's something that everyone deep down knows happens all the time but it hasn't been so overt before.
If we want to talk about the power of controlled or bias information...
The New York Times ran a survey asking Americans what they believed their chance of being hospitalised would be from catching covid-19. The correct answer was between 1 and 5% depending on demographic.
40% of democrats thought it was 50%. Another 28% thought it was between 20 and 49%.
This is a nation where people lock in like a laser on the news they consume, the crossover between people who watch MSNBC/CNN etc and Fox is minuscule so as to be irrelevent. People focus on their side giving them their story. The democrat side has made people far more scared of covid-19 than it deserves. These are the same media who influence our own.
If we want to talk about the power of controlled or bias information...
The New York Times ran a survey asking Americans what they believed their chance of being hospitalised would be from catching covid-19. The correct answer was between 1 and 5% depending on demographic.
40% of democrats thought it was 50%. Another 28% thought it was between 20 and 49%.
This is a nation where people lock in like a laser on the news they consume, the crossover between people who watch MSNBC/CNN etc and Fox is minuscule so as to be irrelevent. People focus on their side giving them their story. The democrat side has made people far more scared of covid-19 than it deserves. These are the same media who influence our own.
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Lol. Scaredy cat democrats. Meanwhile their tough republican countrymen are dying in droves unvaccinated to own the libs.
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Yeah it's a horrible dichotomy. One side terrified so their politicians destroy their economy to keep them safe, the other side so distrusting of that same media tip off the other side of the bed that it must all be rubbish.
Except the African Americans who almost all vote democrat and also don't like being vaccinated.
They have repeatedly defended their platform legal suits by claiming they are a platform and not a publisher, therefore they are not responsible for what is on the platform. Then they don't want the election to swing against Biden so they turn publisher when it suits them. Be one or the other.
They did go to another platform... then Twitter, Facebook, Apple, Amazon all joined forces to lock them out of the entire internet when they were the most downloaded app in america....
Finally, more of the story has been proven correct than incorrect. We know that it is at least mostly true as the NY Times had to edit a claim they made that the story was 'unsubstantiated'.
Given then that he sold info to China, Sold access to his Dad for massive $$ when Biden was the VP and more... how do you feel about Biden now?
MSM = CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NY Times, Washington Post, Forbes, and then Twitter itself who allowed people to say it was false in massive numbers...
New York Times quietly deletes claim Hunter Biden laptop story was 'unsubstantiated'
The New York Times quietly deleted its assertion that an October article from the New York Post about the business dealings of Joe Biden’s son Hunter was “unsubstantiated.” In the reworked report, the outlet reported on a Federal Election Commission decision that dismissed a Republican complaint...
Interesting that you answer none of the main point. Also that when it comes to deaths I haven't seen the evidence to say that republicans are dying in droves.
More importantly, don't you think it is sad that the answer to the poll was 1-5% but they responded up to ten times that number? I would hope we could be non partisan about that. It is a virus, the virus isn't political. Shouldn't we al be pushing for accurate reporting that is not fear based but statistical in nature so we are informed and can decide accordingly.
Also - you should remember it was those same libs Biden and Kamala who were saying they were wary of the vaccine prior to taking office. All of it is rubbish. Get the information - without the fear based, click bait media. There could be some good discussions if that happened, instead we get people laughing at others potentially dying and as bad a large portion of the black community at risk. I am sure they are not refusing the jab to own the libs...
One of the things so interesting in the actions and opinions of those who are on the evangelical/right of Christian politics, is their absolute hypocrisy to the very fundamental teachings in the bible. To look at the story around the birth of Jesus, Mary and Joseph were by every definition seeking asylum in an effort to provide safety for their soon be born child. Yet it was Morrison, a declared 'Christian' who was the architect and enforcer of the Naru solution, painting people seeking asylum as somehow doing something wrong. We may soon see a 'Christian' as the premier of NSW, a man who has openly declared that welfare is destroying the family unit. Again, Jesus broke bread to feed the poor.
I don't pretend to study Christianity or in anyway be a scholar on the subject. But it does seem to me that the evangelical Christian right is a very bigoted and racist group of people. Prolife except that if you're born poor, then we will do the minimum to assist you through life. You're poor because you're lazy and don't want to work.
If Jesus was born today he would be seen as bludging socialist immigrant.
To the point I quoted, understanding the basis and reason for your religion/philosophy is extremely important. They're fine as a guide to decision making but should not be used as an excuse to make selfish decisions, when the basis of the religion (for example) is of one of giving and caring.
Yeah I don't agree at all - but that is ok.
For example, when Tax returns were looked at from senators do you know who on average gave the least and by some margin?
As to Jesus being a Socialist... there is nothing in the Bible that points to socialism. Generosity as given from the heart, yes. Socialism as enforced by society.. no. We cannot conflate the two.
As to the borders thing, I used to think the same as you, however, show me the bible teaching saying we should have open borders? Tell me what labour has done to make borders better... in fact this is well timed as the border crisis is now worse than ever... #bidensamerica...
Kids in cages - which obama built and were enforced when Biden was VP. Now there are record numbers of illegal immigrants entering without testing, sex trafficking issues and Haitian issues with 10k plus stuck in third world conditions... Biden did what Abbot did that is so dodgy = stopped the press reporting by not allowing helicopters etc in the area.
So let me know - what are the Dems doing that is so good for immigration?
Now to your last sentence which was actually addressing my point... Do you think that Christians are uncaring people? I wonder, if evangelicals were checked against other sectors of society what it would look like as far as charitable giving and volunteering time.
I am not sure how many Evangelicals (as there are not many in Australia - in Australia (and correct me someone as this is murky for me) they are pentecostal and part of a broad group of churches in 'Australian Christian Churches - all are autonomous within the group not like the Catholic church' and from what I have been able to find there are pentecostal churches outside ACC. There are independents and some that are called C3 - no idea what that stands for...
From what I am looking at in the states and some comments here Christian friends of mine (call themselves - Catholic and some traditional or reformed - no idea what reformed is) criticise larger evangelical pastors and mega church pastors for moving away from the bible and being very left leaning.
I googled 'do republicans give as much charity as democrats' and these articles are on the first page:
Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets
Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...
Republicans Give More to Charity Than Democrats, but There’s a Bigger Story Here - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly
One could conclude that Republican party is, despite the conventional wisdom, the party that cares about those in need and puts its money where its mouth is. But the true picture is more complex, reflecting at best a real difference between the parties in the best way to approach the challenge...
nonprofitquarterly.org
It doesn't seem to indicate a greed or lack of care for those in need.
I will also state from personal experience when I have sought out people to give to hospitals. orphanages or other programs, I have gotten a better response from religious people (Jewish, Chrisitan, Catholic, Mormon, Scientology) than I have from non religious people. Some non religious people were extremely generous, but in my case not as many. That is anecdotal - so doesn't mean much, but is my experience.
I will also say how shocked on a few occasions I have been that friends of mine are going to countries for a holiday and when I ask what they are doing they are visiting children they have sponsored for years. Many of whom sponsored them at $40 per month (sometimes more) when they were earning less than $60k per year as a household. What I am saying is that I don't buy the religious people aren't generous argument.
I have still yet to see anything proving the original story was true, that claimed significant corruption and that Joe Biden was directly implicated. The WSJ opinion piece that you linked (by a known T***p cheerleader) references Politico as if there is some silver bullet - if there is, I have yet to see it. Who owns the WSJ again? Couldn't possibly be biased could it? Can you point us to something not written by a Murdoch crony?And for those saying the Hunter laptop was a fake and had been fact checked false... this isn't an I told you so but more that everyone should be pissed Twitter and Facebook have such huge power to blow off a story that is at the very least true and pass it off as completely false just prior to an election.....
Opinion | Vindication Over Hunter’s Emails
Politico confirms the New York Post story the Bidens never denied.
You want everyone to be outraged? About what exactly? That the son of a sitting President is dodgy? That Twitter and Facebook are pretty awful organisations? I've always thought that and continue to - I suspect most people across the political spectrum do. Thinking T***p and his family are some of the most corrupt people on the planet isn't mutually exclusive though. Nor is thinking that mainstream media is far too monopolised and partisan.
I also don't like Joe Biden and never have. But the alternative was/is abhorrent in comparison. I said at the time of the election America is choosing the best of two awful options. I stand by that and think we face the same dilemma with Australia's next election. Morrison, who is completely incompetent and surrounded by some abhorrent humans or Albo, who has done absolutely nothing to show he is a good leader. I have my issues with McGowan as well but I think we've learned plenty about how much worse the other side was and still is.
Do you really think a story about Hunter Biden should have any bearing on how people vote? Should we start looking into the families of Australian politicians? Maybe we shouldn't limit it to politics and do it in business as well? "Sorry sir, you are ultra qualified for the role but we've found out your daughter once had a drug addiction so on that basis we are disqualifying your application".
Yes, sure can. See a link from a leftie journo below. Very critical of Trump - hates him. Wrote a book all about the republican hypocrites etc.
Glenn Greenwald On His Resignation From The Intercept
The Pulitzer winner founded the Intercept to challenge official narratives and protect editorial freedom. When editors abandoned those principles, spiking a controversial story, he was forced to quit
taibbi.substack.com
New Proof Emerges of the Biden Family Emails: a Definitive Account of the CIA/Media/BigTech Fraud
An axis of the CIA, Big Tech and the DNC-allied wing of the corporate media spread an absolute lie in the weeks before the 2020 election. We now have definitive proof.
greenwald.substack.com
There is a difference between looking into random family members and looking into a son who is selling time and influence to foreign nations. If you cannot see that, I am not sure what to say. If the story is Hunter is using his Father at the time the VP to make millions then I think we all should be interested. I thought that would be a non partisan thing... It is something that should be despised in politics.
Why isn't it in non Murdoch owned press outlets... well aside from independent journos they are all left leaning or way left.
I still can't see anything resembling proof of corruption that implicates Joe Biden directly? Both articles are about the media being biased - and refusing to run the story and/or to discredit it. I'd imagine that's a daily occurrence at almost every media outlet. There are literally thousands of credible stories about t***p, his family and republicans that Fox News never ran and plenty they manipulated to discredit what other news agencies were reporting. Murdoch created the media landscape of lies and manipulation - why should we be outraged (or surprised) when the other side start using the same tactics?Yes, sure can. See a link from a leftie journo below. Very critical of Trump - hates him. Wrote a book all about the republican hypocrites etc.
Glenn Greenwald On His Resignation From The Intercept
The Pulitzer winner founded the Intercept to challenge official narratives and protect editorial freedom. When editors abandoned those principles, spiking a controversial story, he was forced to quit
New Proof Emerges of the Biden Family Emails: a Definitive Account of the CIA/Media/BigTech Fraud
An axis of the CIA, Big Tech and the DNC-allied wing of the corporate media spread an absolute lie in the weeks before the 2020 election. We now have definitive proof.
There is a difference between looking into random family members and looking into a son who is selling time and influence to foreign nations. If you cannot see that, I am not sure what to say. If the story is Hunter is using his Father at the time the VP to make millions then I think we all should be interested. I thought that would be a non partisan thing... It is something that should be despised in politics.
Why isn't it in non Murdoch owned press outlets... well aside from independent journos they are all left leaning or way left.
As for Hunter using his father's standing to make money, that would not shock me at all. How many kids do you know that got their first job because of their dads? Have you been following Colin Barnett's son in the news? Do you think he might have used his father's standing similarly back in the day? Nepotism makes me cringe but unless Joe Biden offered something as VP in return is it really that important a story?
Like I said way way back in this thread if there is proof of corruption then let charges be laid. If Hunter has done something illegal, as a citizen, then let the legal system do its thing. Meanwhile we do have proof of corruption by t***p and his family members both domestically and involving foreign powers and somehow none of them are in an orange jumpsuit yet? Do you think there is a single article about t***p's many thousands of conflicts of interest whilst he was President? But they provide opinions not news according to their lawyers so that makes it ok doesn't it?
