Play Nice Society, Religion & Politics Thread

[Grand Uncle Horace]

The gang I sit with at the SCG are all moderate lefties. They know I am idealogically opposed to a lot of what they believe in. But they are ripping blokes. We all just laugh about it - as you should. Respectfully disagree and engage in healthy (even rigorous) debate. But no insults.That's the formula for mine.

FWIW, I even voted for Keating and Beazley in my younger days. So definitely no hate for those that support the ALP.

Keating and Beazley were right wingers. The ALP imo are radishes - pink on the outside, white on the inside. It has only been with the Tories being taken over by lunar right wingers and evangelical nut jobs that a significant gap has opened between the Libs and Labs.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Irrespective of what one thinks of another opinion, why do you feel it's acceptable to resort to insults? And to insult one of your fellow Swans fans no less. It's poor form at best.

Nothing the poster said was insulting. Just truth. Deal with it.

 

[Swan4Life]

I didn't insult you. I said a certain set of behaviours doesn't paint you in a good light.

I didn't say you did, I merely posed the question as to why it's acceptable to insult someone just becuse they offer a different point of view.

And what you describe as 'behaviours' in this context is nothing more than an idealogical position - is there something sinister in that?

 

[Swan4Life]

Nothing the poster said was insulting. Just truth. Deal with it.

Referring to someone as stupid is an insult. No ifs or buts. And it is a sure sign that you've lost the argument.

Save the propaganda for the state election campaign. I'm sure those you barrack for will be trowelling it on as they always do.

 

[Swan4Life]

Keating and Beazley were right wingers. The ALP imo are radishes - pink on the outside, white on the inside. It has only been with the Tories being taken over by lunar right wingers and evangelical nut jobs that a significant gap has opened between the Libs and Labs.

"evangelical nut jobs" plural? Like who?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I didn't say you did, I merely posed the question as to why it's acceptable to insult someone just becuse they offer a different point of view.

And what you describe as 'behaviours' in this context is nothing more than an idealogical position - is there something sinister in that?

LOL you cut and pasted an entire article from The Australian without attribution, and .Shotties. describes that, pretty accurately in my opinion, as "Mindless parrotting of talking points" and that sends you into a huff?

 

[Swan4Life]

LOL you cut and pasted an entire article from The Australian without attribution, and .Shotties. describes that, pretty accurately in my opinion, as "Mindless parrotting of talking points" and that sends you into a huff?

No, I was referring to an earlier poster who clearly described me as being stupid.

The rest of the content in this thread is just opinions - not much of which I agree with - which everyone is within their rights to air. No issue with that at all.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Referring to someone as stupid is an insult. No ifs or buts. And it is a sure sign that you've lost the argument.

Save the propaganda for the state election campaign. I'm sure those you barrack for will be trowelling it on as they always do.

Oh, I see now, you're referring to a different post. Apologies.

Sure, "stupid" might be a bit harsh, but on the other hand, cutting and pasting an article from The Oz like it's gospel truth, with no comment of your own attached, and yet no attribution to make it clear the words are not yours, is not particularly clever, is it? How is that not "propaganda"?

 

[bedford]

Ignoring the moral implications, massive risk to hire Morris.killed anyone
Wouldn't want him near my company for PR reasons.

There are others over the years who have actually had criminal activities that have got another chance . Morris gived me the sh its at times , but hasn't killed anyone and him and Barnard were great friends .

 

[.Shotties.]

I didn't say you did, I merely posed the question as to why it's acceptable to insult someone just becuse they offer a different point of view.

Okay, so pose that to the person who did so.

And what you describe as 'behaviours' in this context is nothing more than an idealogical position - is there something sinister in that?

...mate, you're posting right-wing talking points without any elaboration or hint that you're reading it critically. What exactly have you posted that counters that conclusion?

 

[Ticky009]

There are others over the years who have actually had criminal activities that have got another chance . Morris gived me the sh its at times , but hasn't killed anyone and him and Barnard were great friends .

And that makes it okay? Where's your line then Bedford? It's okay to beat women and children and still present yourself to the public as media representative - which Australia media seem totally fine with.

It's okay to racially and sexually vilify someone? I know you're not okay with this- but just because they got another chance in the past does not make it okay to perpetuate that action is what I'm saying.

Eddie McGuire - racial vilification allowed back to continue media & President duties
Wayne Carey - domestic abuse. Actually head hunted by many a media stream to appear
Ben Cousins: Stalking, domestic abuse
Tom Morris was rightly sacked - he vilified a workmate - AT WORK. It wasn't a private conversation - nothing is private when it occurs in the workplace. This is in pretty much every workplace contract now.

 

[bedford]

He made a mistake to Barnard , do you know what he actually said !

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Drawing a comparison to De Goey pulling down a woman's top on a live stream in Bali, I assume.

Not so much a comparison more on the action is identical (did the victim consent with the action did it put her in a very uncomfortable position being grouped in public) obviously vastly different reactions to the incident.

 

[bedford]

Not so much a comparison more on the action is identical (did the victim consent with the action did it put her in a very uncomfortable position being grouped in public) obviously vastly different reactions to the incident.

Correct , this works both ways , but some won't cop it.

 

[Bloods86]

For the 'rusted on' its their way or the highway, no different to the religious self righteous. The race for the crown of self righteousness is a very SAD sight.

These people are being successful in applying ideology to every facet of life to the chagrin of the wider populace.

I don't call people names on here, because I've moved from very conservative to progressive over the last decade or so, and I didn't suddenly gain IQ points.

But here we have people with different points of view having a crack at opposing views/parties, and it seems like only one "side" is prepared to back it up. So making bold, yet vague claims (then refusing to respond to questions), or posting unattributed articles, is just trolling at this point.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Eddie McGuire - racial vilification allowed back to continue media & President duties
Wayne Carey - domestic abuse. Actually head hunted by many a media stream to appear
Ben Cousins: Stalking, domestic abuse
Tom Morris was rightly sacked - he vilified a workmate - AT WORK. It wasn't a private conversation - nothing is private when it occurs in the workplace. This is in pretty much every workplace contract now.

Re Tom Morris, outing a work colleague - whether inadvertently or not - was unforgivable and he was rightly sacked.

But if what he said was “vilification”, well I’m a Dutchman’s uncle.

Smutty, puerile - sure, but vilification?

Other three are pretty poor human beings IMHO.

 

[Ticky009]

Re Tom Morris, outing a work colleague - whether inadvertently or not - was unforgivable and he was rightly sacked.

But if what he said was “vilification”, well I’m a Dutchman’s uncle.

Smutty, puerile - sure, but vilification?

Other three are pretty poor human beings IMHO.

Yeah, fair call, wrongly worded there.

 

[bedford]

Re Tom Morris, outing a work colleague - whether inadvertently or not - was unforgivable and he was rightly sacked.

But if what he said was “vilification”, well I’m a Dutchman’s uncle.

Smutty, puerile - sure, but vilification?

Other three are pretty poor human beings IMHO.

Carey is a grub like his whole family as is Archer

 

[Bloods86]

I am clearly posting articles and opinion pieces which I think are a worthy read and potential topic of discussion. There is no obligation or requirement on my part to do any more or any less. Nor is anyone else obliged to read, comment or respond.

If you dont like it then you can simply skip past it - no harm done.

 

[Swan4Life]

Oh, I see now, you're referring to a different post. Apologies.

Sure, "stupid" might be a bit harsh, but on the other hand, cutting and pasting an article from The Oz like it's gospel truth, with no comment of your own attached, and yet no attribution to make it clear the words are not yours, is not particularly clever, is it? How is that not "propaganda"?

No problem mate. FWIW, I have respected your Swans related contributions here for a long time.

I think its fairly clear when the heading is bolded that it is a copy/paste of an op-ed or article. And I certainly dont think that there is a requirement to quote the source - its not a university essay after all. Those days are, thankfully, a distant memory. At the end of the day, it is the content that matters. The writer is merely the delivery vehicle. I always focus on the content.

As to whether or not it's propaganda - I suppose it depends on your idealogical POV. To me that would be every time Laura Tingle speaks on the taxpayers dime. But I suspect that I would be in the minority in these parts.

 

[Swan4Life]

Why was the mask mandate article deleted?

 

[Bloods86]

As to whether or not it's propaganda - I suppose it depends on your idealogical POV. To me that would be every time Laura Tingle speaks on the taxpayers dime. But I suspect that I would be in the minority in these parts.

Unlike NewsCorp which definitely isn't propped up by government at all.

 

[Bloods86]

Why was the mask mandate article deleted?

Just think of it as a Community Service Deletion

 

[robbieando]

Just think of it as a Community Service Deletion

That and you are also not allowed to reproduce articles from news outlets in full without permission without linking directly to the source and providing a summary of its contents in your own words.

 

[Swan4Life]

Okay...I was not aware of that.