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People call others the f word all the time playing call of duty. This is fake news.

Not sure we should compare ourselves to the standards of 15 year olds playing call of duty or edgelords on 4chan for that matter.


Do you reckon a tennis player would get away with calling his opponent a ****** during a match?
What about if you went over to your colleagues table and called him one in earshot of your boss, while the CEO was around?
 
How many for “big girls blouse”?
From a port player, 3 (add another if indigenous).

If from a big Victorian team, especially if they're the sort of "top bloke" you can invite to a sportsmen's night and delight in stories of how they got drunk and punched on during an Irish tour - or whatever equivalent bs - no games + a footy show contract.

AFL is right about one thing. There is no place for homophobia. But the double standards and Jezza's character assassination by some parts of the local and football media is inexcusable.
 
Not sure we should compare ourselves to the standards of 15 year olds playing call of duty or edgelords on 4chan for that matter.


Do you reckon a tennis player would get away with calling his opponent a ****** during a match?
What about if you went over to your colleagues table and called him one in earshot of your boss, while the CEO was around?
Players from grassroots to afl level would use the same word finlayson used. I wouldnt think anything of it like most people. I was surprised when I heard he reported himself.
 
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Players from grassroots to afl level would use the same word finlayson used. I wouldnt think anything of it like most people. I was surprised when he reported himself.
I hear it 20x a game at the local soccer club games & a lot worse.
If Essendon players were upset by that then they are soft c$&k wimps
 
Yet Maguire has done some serious slanderous s**t in the media.
Agree totally ( I come in peace). It is hilarious that Eddie McGuire is seeking to justify the punishment meted out to your player when he is guilty for equally horrible comments (made on radio and broadcast publicy!!!) Who will ever forget the slur against Adam Goodes?? He escaped with minimal damage, but your guy is getting publicly hammered and vilified. Sympathies for you, as this world is grotesquely unjust.
 
Players from grassroots to afl level would use the same word finlayson used. I wouldnt think anything of it like most people. I was surprised when I heard he reported himself.

Would they? Well maybe they should ****ing stop using a horrible slur that went out of common usage two decades ago.

You're clearly pretty out of touch with society if you're shocked by the response. Finlayson himself immediately knew he ****ed up.
 
More homophobic? What does that actually means?
What the AFL needs to do is to list all the possible homophobic words and give a possible penalty for each, or group them and allocate a penalty for each group.

AND poor Clarko was PROVOKED!


The Herald Sun’s Lauren Wood, speaking on Fox Footy’s Midweek Tackle, explained what the AFL saw as the difference between the Clarkson and Finlayson slurs.

“First things first is the actual slur that was used, the actual word. Clarkson’s was probably not considered by those who were investigating to be as openly homophobic, whereas Finlayson’s was incredibly pointed, incredibly cutting, total no-go zone,” she said.

“Then they looked at the provocation. Finlayson was basically unprovoked, Clarkson’s situation, the environment was highly charged, he had St Kilda players coming at him (after the Jimmy Webster bump), he was going back at them.”


But she added, suggesting the league regretted not suspending Clarkson: “It’s safe to say at the moment the differences wouldn’t be as vast if the AFL had its time again.”

 
What does the gay community think about Haneen Zreika sitting out Pride Round in the AFLW every year because she's a Muslim and objects to wearing a guernsey celebrating such a thing? You can say it's religious so it's different but really what she's saying by doing that is she objects to homosexuality and doesn't even want to be associated with it. Is that acceptable?

This is the problem with being self appointed arbiters of morality and social justice and dishing out punishments to those who don't conform. You end up having to grade different levels of racism, homophobia, etc, and it ends up looking more like an exercise in image management than anything else.
 
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Part of me thinks that the club is doing the right things and staying out of the controversy of being perceived to endorse Finlaysons language (just look how Koch's words were twisted) and letting others point out the hypocrisy for us.

The other part of me sees this as the continuation of a spineless admin that never stand up for their own.
They don't have to defend Finlayson's actions to point out the hypocrisy.

"We accept that the consequences of Jeremy's actions were fair, but query why a far more experienced football person did not receive a commensurate penalty for commensurate comments made a few weeks ago'. Done. That took me two minutes, hire me as a PR manager.
 

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What does the gay community think about Haneen Zreika sitting out Pride Round in the AFLW every year because she's a Muslim and objects to wearing a guernsey celebrating such a thing? You can say it's religious so it's different but really what she's saying by doing that is she objects to homosexuality and doesn't even want to be associated with it. Is that acceptable?

This is the problem with being self appointed arbiters of morality and social justice and dishing out punishments to those who don't conform. You end up having to grade different levels of racism, homosexuality, etc, and it ends up looking more like an exercise in image management than anything else.
At the end of the day that’s just what it really is,an exercise in image management.
 
AND poor Clarko was PROVOKED!


The Herald Sun’s Lauren Wood, speaking on Fox Footy’s Midweek Tackle, explained what the AFL saw as the difference between the Clarkson and Finlayson slurs.

“First things first is the actual slur that was used, the actual word. Clarkson’s was probably not considered by those who were investigating to be as openly homophobic, whereas Finlayson’s was incredibly pointed, incredibly cutting, total no-go zone,” she said.

“Then they looked at the provocation. Finlayson was basically unprovoked, Clarkson’s situation, the environment was highly charged, he had St Kilda players coming at him (after the Jimmy Webster bump), he was going back at them.”


But she added, suggesting the league regretted not suspending Clarkson: “It’s safe to say at the moment the differences wouldn’t be as vast if the AFL had its time again.”

Do we definitely know that Finny wasn't provoked at all. Not saying it justifies what he said, but if you're going to wheel it out in defence of Clarkson then it's a fair question.
 
So a whole community of people deserves an apology for something said to one person? The idea that somebody feels so offended by a word somebody else said to somebody else when you were not even present, not directed at you at all, to the point that you feel you and your "community" deserve an apology is a level of thin skinned I can't even fathom. You don't even know officially what was even said!

100% this.
 
What do you suggest the Essendon players could have said to him that would make it okay to use a slur?

Provocation is entirely ****ing irrelevant and you're embarrassing yourself by constantly banging on about it. It's the same s**t Crows supporters tried to pull to defend Walker.
The afl thought it relevant to mention for Clarkson
 
The afl thought it relevant to mention for Clarkson
The AFL are a bunch of campaigners, I don't care what they say.

The disparity between Finlayson's treatment and Clarkson's treatment is wrong. That doesn't mean Finlayson should have been treated more leniently. The error was not treating Clarkson more harshly.
 

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