Autopsy 2024 Rd 11 Leaders let Blues down in season defining loss to Giants

[dragonsblues]

We’re a 10th - 14th side assisted by a very easy draw.

We started a list ‘refresh’ last year. Sadly it’s like spraying air freshener in a public toilet -it smells like someone has taken an enormous dump in a pine forest.

If they want to avoid a complete rebuilt. We’re going to need to trade a ‘star’, let TDK go and come up with a game plan that isn’t just contested possessions.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Same ol same ol

Onto the twos game hey

 

[TENACIOUS]

Carroll got a bit of the ball & showed something.

White certainly not as bad as some of the more senior players....I think your being too harsh on those 2 young blokes.

Agreed, put him on their by mistake

 

[Wickzki]

When you bring in someone like Harry O'Farrell, you need to have a specific plan in mind to make it work given his lack of body strength and elite endurance. We had none, we just picked a tall defender.

Complete "next man up..." mentality.

 

[Accidental genius]

That was me.

Today’s was and we didn’t.

Winnable means you can win if you play well enough.

We don’t.

The boys could hear the BYE calling and decided it was a bit difficult.

Was someone else I think but anyways agree

You could say swans game was winnable too but the way we are travelling this season it’s hard to be confident

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Normally agree with most of your views ODN but not here.

There are plenty of small forwards who show heart and effort and actually damage the opposition.

Even the goal he kicked - it was because he was lucky enough to be taken high. He otherwise dropped a mark he simply should've taken.

He isn't overly quick, skilful, silky, crafty, ++++. His pressure acts never amount to any real pressure. He doesn't create chances.

He simply doesn't possess any qualities you want in a small forward.

He just won't cut it. Yet we'll re-sign him for 3 more years.

I'm not defending his career here. I criticise him often.

I'm asking why he is the one being singled out when Durdin had a far worse game?

Not potting Durds either. I like his pace and tackling normally. It's just that some supporters seem to be actively looking for Jesse to fail, and give zero credit for every one passage of play. It's just the over-arching 'no good' narrative so I won't even encourage or convey anything positive he does.

 

[The Bighouse]

Criticism of White seem a little OTT. Had a crack & moments..

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Difference is Durds has had games this year where he's showed something, he's a small forward, he's going to throw up a stinker every now and again.

Motlop has had two good games in absolute drubbings against Norf and WC, and every other game he's had a stinker. This is becoming a pattern. If Durds keeps up this form he'll start to cop it too, don't you worry.

 

[Gethelred]

Apparently we're only 2-3 good players away from contending...

Yeah ****en right.. I have a bridge to sell...

Who has said we're two-three players away from contending?

 

[Moon]

Wonder whether 2026 will be 'Business as Usual' .... much of the same ..?

Hey .... come back here ...Don't you go leaving us ... you hear ...Hope!

 

[jj1978]

Uncontested? It was a hot spear wearing Idun as a backpack. If he got him high, it's not by default.

I bag Jesse out often, but the level of it is hysterical of late. He is the whipping boy of our times. Our supporters seem to need one. They won't ever recognise anything decent he does. 6 tackles? Nothing?

He’s not the worst. Durdin and Fog a lot worse.

Seeking whipping boy…. Russell was once a fan favourite. And with the state of our forward line he deserves to resume favouritism.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Curnow shits me to tears. Just superhero efforts only, never any grit or toughness or willingness to sacrifice for anyone else. Does not do the percentage thing ever.

Geelong would offer three farms, two pubs and a 25 lot subsivision.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Weitering gets a pass this week, he is usually a rock.

Honestly I just don't know anymore. Is it Voss? The assistants? The senior players? The youth??

It just not a finals list. I'd love to keep TDK but not on more than $1 mill, if he goes he goes. In fact I think Silvagni is a bigger loss.

I've given up hope for this year and probably next. I'm keen to see what magic Wright can weave but lets all be honest, there is something really wrong with the club that one man alone cannot fix.

At least before I expected us to be shit, these years are supposed to be contending years. Hawthorn will win a flag or two then bottom out then rebuild before we get close.

 

[dragonsblues]

How many goals does Weitering want to give up or poor contesting. Drill your opponent
Major culprits are the big $ earners not fronting up to earn their paycheck on output.
Bad kicking at goal causes losses, again.
Red time goals hurt.
Poorly skilled players.
Durdin non-existent out there.
Motlop, trade/delist rather than persevering.
Jordan Lewis, please don't call CFC games again, dreadful voice/commentator.

I understand people are venting but Weitering wins his contest each week. He was ordinary today but is constantly our most consistent and reliable player.

Slagging him off based on a rare bad game is crazy.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Who has said we're two-three players away from contending?

Go read the list management thread... it's all there...

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

Poms are winning so **** that

Yeah but they are only beating up on Zimbabwe.
It's there modis operandi!

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Difference is Durds has had games this year where he's showed something, he's a small forward, he's going to throw up a stinker every now and again.

Motlop has had two good games in absolute drubbings against Norf and WC, and every other game he's had a stinker. This is becoming a pattern. If Durds keeps up this form he'll start to cop it too, don't you worry.

But we are talking about this game. This thread and the gameday thread is all about this game, not this season as a whole.

Yet zero mention of Durds, and dozens of mentions about Motlop, all negative. Not one positive.

I start getting a little sus on crap like that.

 

[2blue4u]

TDK is clearly gone.
Crippa deserves success. He ain't getting that at Carlton. If he wants to go, let him go. We owe him that.
Voss, see ya. Take your plan A game plan and F%$& OFF.
Motlop, see ya.
White, see ya.
Get as much from Melbourne or Sydney for H.
Get some speed.
Hit a target inside 50.
Get some heart.
Show some care.
Get some leaders.
With the new coach, get a solid team around him.
SHOW SOMETHING YOU PEA HEART w***erS

Agree but you left out the Carlton board. Replace it.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

gonna stop watching soon if I see Motlop getting centre bounce attendances again

 

[jj1978]

Well done boys…good effort first 11 rounds …

Your week off well deserved go and enjoy

We deserve it more.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

No use whinging about Motlop...

The core group let us down again today...

At this point, I'll be shocked if Wright doesn't order a rebuild this off season.

Cannot persist with these conditional, over paid pretenders...

 

[Gethelred]

Go read the list management thread... it's all there...

Or - alternatively - quote the posts which do state we're 2-3 players away.

I'm not reading an entire 382 page to make your argument for you.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Yep, I agree.

We`ve sat through close to a 10 year rebuild for this, would rather go through it again than just meekly keep going through the motions.

I think there is an alternative to completely blowing it up but it’s a for a different thread.

terrible outing…absolute poor performances from our millions dollar leaders

Walsh
Cripps
H
Charlie
Tdk
Weits

Harsh on Cripps today but spot on with the other 5. Mind you all 6 have been down this season.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Or - alternatively - quote the posts which do state we're 2-3 players away.

I'm not reading an entire 382 page to make your argument for you.

I'm not fishing through all those posts because you're too lazy to.

 

[jj1978]

I would just let TDK go.

Heck, I'd even push him out the door myself. Not anywhere near worth the price he demands.
Strip the list back and start again.

Too many players now that are not going to take us anywhere.

Motlop not AFL standard.

McGovern high maintenance (he is also probably the most Jekyll and Hyde player in the league. Practically personifies modern day Carlton. Has some amazing moments and other time becomes this REALLY stupid footballer that makes REALLY stupid decisions)

Acres poor ball user.

Docherty as good as he was today won't be involved in the next flag push.

Cripps too banged up.

Young not threatening enough for a permanent spot.

Evans desisted twice for a reason.

Fantasia and Williams made of glass.

And all the good ball users at this club are the ones always getting injured.

I want to see the young kids and inexperienced mob (Lord, Carroll, White, Binns, O'Farrell, etc.) get as many games as possible this year now because our development program too is a complete embarrassment. I am sick of the bottom six talk.

No more trading in C/D-grade rejects and has-beens. PLAY THE DAMN KIDS!!!

Did you hear the post game interview from Bedford praising TDK as one of the best and a side swipe about him being offered so much coin.