All Round Arseclown Tim Wilson

[Not Important]

She accepted Antony Green’s calling on election night without recourse to the AEC, what’s changed?

 

[Not Important]

And you probably believed George Pell and his mates too.

i’m enjoying spikie splashing about in his pool of confusion almost as much as i’m enjoying prayer room boy getting his knickers in a knot over not being eligible to sit in the lib’s bedraggled party room yet. still have a giggle at the narcissist contemplating a leadership tilt a while back.

 

[Crankyhawk]

A narrative is not a fact. I didn't read the Saturday Paper piece because I have no desire to subscribe to it, and had to do so to read the piece.

I claim not to like the Australian Labor Party, but I don't want to curtail their political speech either. When they say something that is not true or possibly misleading, my suggestion for recourse is to get in front of a microphone and explain how it wasn't true. I don't want to take the ALP to court over Mediscare but that is obviously the kind of thing you are talking about prohibiting through your suggestion for regulated political speech.

Edit - so I've managed to get access to Ryan's piece and taken a look. This is in the fourth paragraph:

"I’m told that half the Victorian Liberal Party’s membership lives in Kooyong."

Now, the assertion there is not true. I'm happy to concede Dr Ryan was told that, but the person doing the telling is incorrect. There is no legal recourse for that mistruth because you cannot defame an organisation, and rightly so. But Dr Ryan wrote it and the Saturday Paper published it.

In my view the piece contains the sort of political assertion that a regulated speech regime seeks to limit or could be used to limit. I have no issue with Dr Ryan's ability to write the piece, although the fact The Saturday Paper printed it is a reason I don't subscribe. But I don't want The Saturday Paper shut down by some government authority.

I suppose the wiggle room in Ryan's statement is the "I'm told", while had she said "it is a fact that half the vic liberal party membership lives in Kooyong" I would want that type of statement held accountable as political lie.

 

[The Punter]

I suppose the wiggle room in Ryan's statement is the "I'm told", while had she said "it is a fact that half the vic liberal party membership lives in Kooyong" I would want that type of statement held accountable as political lie.

I'm in the minority, but the way we hold politicians accountable for what they say is elections. Also, that way the voters are in charge. Democracy.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I'm in the minority, but the way we hold politicians accountable for what they say is elections. Also, that way the voters are in charge. Democracy.

My belief is that people are stupider than ever and need a clear prompt to know what is opinion vs fact. So I will give a free pass to whatever outrageous lies (again that don’t cross vilification/ hate laws) if prefaced by “it’s my opinion that” but is not phrasing it like that and presenting it like it is fact (see the entirety of sky news) then I would want to hunt and silence them.
This is my opinion

 

[DapperDon]

I suspect you don’t like blokes who aren’t heterosexual but that’s fine if you say so.

This is my favourite part about the right wing harping on about Tim.

They use Tim's sexual indentity as a weapon to show they don't follow a backward generally racist bigoted party. Whereas in reality they mostly voted against Same Sex Marriage and actually believe trans reading some stories are going to turn all their children into cats.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Election Denier

Did you miss the part where she said she would abide by the AEC's decision?

 

[Not Important]

Goldstein: Partial recount to commence

www.aec.gov.au

 

[The Punter]

Meanwhile actual Tim Wilson



Which ex judge can I complain to about misleading political communication?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Meanwhile actual Tim Wilson



Which ex judge can I complain to about misleading political communication?

Well, it is outside of a political campaign
It was aimed as lowbrow humor by inferring he is a crybaby
And debunked by the quote you posted.

For mine if they used a deepfake version of Wilson doing a plausible rage and anger, that should fall into misleading political communication though (creation of alternative facts)

 

[kalex6251]

there are many shades to prayer room boy .... many shades

 

[DapperDon]

Meanwhile actual Tim Wilson



Which ex judge can I complain to about misleading political communication?

You forgot this sooky lala bit

 

[The Punter]

You forgot this sooky lala bit

I think this is more a "ALP and Teals are on the same side" point than anything else.

He lost in 2022, it hurt him, he got past it, identified what he needed to do differently to win the seat back, and then won the seat back.

The only MP in Australian history to win a seat back from an independent who beat him at the first attempt.

 

[Not Important]

Well, it is outside of a political campaign
It was aimed as lowbrow humor by inferring he is a crybaby
And debunked by the quote you posted.

For mine if they used a deepfake version of Wilson doing a plausible rage and anger, that should fall into misleading political communication though (creation of alternative facts)

as you suggest, cranky, it was lampooning. for anyone to conflate that with a serious post is risible. and as for reporting it to, who-the-hell -knows, they would be told to run along with your wasteful, vexatious trumpery. it can’t be easy for tp to go through life without a sense of humour.

as i’ve said, the chances of overturning the aec call are slim, but there must be a reason for at least clarification purposes.

and when you’ve been subjected to blatant falsehoods, personal attacks, and half-truths for months, you probably feel a tad peeved and want the matter cleared up once and for all.

 

[The Punter]

1. I was joking

2. This is what I get when I make jokes

A bit juvenile mate.

Scandinavia IS totally awesome.
Does that mean it is perfect? No. Does that mean it is beyond criticism? No.

Considering you all collude on what you think, can you do the same for what is acceptable attempts at humour?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

1. I was joking

2. This is what I get when I make jokes



Considering you all collude on what you think, can you do the same for what is acceptable attempts at humour?

What's the difference between collusion and a secret agreement?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

1. I was joking

2. This is what I get when I make jokes



Considering you all collude on what you think, can you do the same for what is acceptable attempts at humour?

We don’t collude on what we all think, but hey man, always appreciate attempts at humour and sorry that one went over my head.

 

[The Punter]

What's the difference between collusion and a secret agreement?

6-12 months.

 

[Not Important]

1. I was joking

2. This is what I get when I make jokes



Considering you all collude on what you think, can you do the same for what is acceptable attempts at humour?

not sure what the “acceptable” bit is in this frolic, but one thing i look for is someone who has shown by their utterances and or actions they have one, ie a sense of humour. austere, take life too seriously, peeps rarely do so you tend to take them at face value. peeps like the prayer room boy, for instance.

 

[The Punter]

Bastard.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Bastard.

Won't somebody think of the millionaires and their super!

 

[The Punter]

Won't somebody think of the millionaires and their super!

Maybe Tim will bring them fruit as well.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Maybe a prayer room donation

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Won't somebody think of the millionaires and their super!

It's less about "millionaires and their super" (although that too is just baseless envy and classic tall poppy syndrome), it's more to do with what such bad tax policy will do to our: farming industry (impacting the local food you eat); and our economy (impacting the wages you earn, assuming you're employed). That policy will hurt every single person in Australia.

 

[Sttew]

It's less about "millionaires and their super" (although that too is just baseless envy and classic tall poppy syndrome), it's more to do with what such bad tax policy will do to our: farming industry (impacting the local food you eat); and our economy (impacting the wages you earn, assuming you're employed). That policy will hurt every single person in Australia.

100%.

And without indexation, in 10 years the number of Australians affected by this tax will have skyrocketed