Player Watch Liam McMahon (Delisted 2022)

[Mollythedolly]

Are we talking about Nathan Murphy? The guy missed like an entire season with a neck injury?

I’d forgotten about that. Only played about 4 VFL games that year (2019?). McInnes similarly only played 5-6 VFL games his first year (2021) with a broken bone, a combined (VFL & AFL) 9 in his 2nd. Murphy played a combined 16+ every other year other than 2020. Macrae’s 1st season he only managed a dozen games. his back injury the end of 2022 and 2023 preseason.

The cancelled competitions in 2020 impacted all 3 but at least Murphy was still training with the senior squad.

 

[TradeDraft]

Drafted tonight by Essendon in MSD

 

[gouki88]

Drafted tonight by Essendon in MSD

Poor bloke

 

[unplugged]

Poor bloke

The best part is that it has taken Carlton VFL's best forward away from them!

 

[Mollythedolly]

Drafted tonight by Essendon in MSD

Good luck to him.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Always thought delisting him after just two? seasons was pretty poor form. Good luck to him with his second chance.

 

[Bianconeri]

Always thought delisting him after just two? seasons was pretty poor form. Good luck to him with his second chance.

We’ve delisted plenty of players after just two seasons. Why in this case was it poor form?

 

[76woodenspooners]

Always thought delisting him after just two? seasons was pretty poor form. Good luck to him with his second chance.

Dunno about Liam in particular, but Ed on his podcast has referred to there being a lot of challenges with young players not having the right attitude.

For me it made sense and something we all understand - get any bunch of people together who you need to work closely with, and there’ll be a mix of those who are freeloaders, those who are high performers but aren’t team players, there’ll be the quiet achievers, the natural leaders, etc, etc …

… and as an insider you can see these things that outsiders have NFI about.

You see a bloke who you’d be happy for your daughter to date, but if you were his mate you’d see a side to him that’d make you stay well clear of.

It’d be the same with footy clubs. Especially at Collingwood under Fly - which relies on system / winning attitudes / culture / etc for success.

 

[ClaytonM]

Always thought delisting him after just two? seasons was pretty poor form. Good luck to him with his second chance.

At the time I thought we should have given him another year. Thought he was starting to show something.

 

[nahnah]

Didn’t we chuck him in the backline in the final year?

He watched two players we drafted after him win a flag the next year, maybe that motivated him

Or maybe he’s still no good and just a VFL goal kicker

 

[jmac70]

Always thought delisting him after just two? seasons was pretty poor form. Good luck to him with his second chance.

Who would you have delisted instead?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Who would you have delisted instead?

I can’t remember what I had for breakfast but project talls need more than two years, especially when you don’t have many talls on your list in the first place.

Edit…. On a second look any one of kelly Bianco Murley Draper Ruscoe or Wilson, all of whom got the boot a year later.

 

[TradeDraft]

Who would you have delisted instead?

Will Kelly

 

[Carlthetruth]

I can’t remember what I had for breakfast but project talls need more than two years, especially when you don’t have many talls on your list in the first place.

Edit…. On a second look any one of kelly Bianco Murley Draper Ruscoe or Wilson, all of whom got the boot a year later.

One problem, you haven't factored in McMahon isn't very good, fretting over not retaining him is a tad tragic.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

One problem, you haven't factored in McMahon isn't very good, fretting over not retaining him is a tad tragic.

time will tell and good luck to him regardless. I still feel young talls need time… more than two years… and especially so if their development is severely curtailed as it was in 2020/21.

You can see it in tonight’s game. No McMahon, no Bombers!

Ps having an opinion is not fretting.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I can’t remember what I had for breakfast but project talls need more than two years, especially when you don’t have many talls on your list in the first place.

Edit…. On a second look any one of kelly Bianco Murley Draper Ruscoe or Wilson, all of whom got the boot a year later.

The contracted guys?

 

[Mollythedolly]

Will Kelly

Had a better VFL season than McMahon.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The contracted guys?

I don’t really need to rehash the entire list management from three years ago but yes you make a good point….. we seem to have had too many ordinary players contracted on our list at the same time. They would have been on base salary anyway so hardly an impost to pay them out

It’s not my intention to say anything more than I have already except to say that conceptually it’s preferable to give young tall draftees more than two years and more so in covid years.

(Unless they are deaf of course and it was unfair on them to be listed in the first place! )

 

[pablo disco bar]

Will be an interesting watch as will archer may

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Will be an interesting watch as will archer may

Can’t see why we’d watch May any more than anybody else. We didn’t pass on him nor did we delist him. Somebody else just took him first. His mums partner played a season with Collingwood , that’s all.

 

[Kirby]

I can’t believe we let go this superstar.

 

[VinnieB]

I can’t remember what I had for breakfast but project talls need more than two years, especially when you don’t have many talls on your list in the first place.

Edit…. On a second look any one of kelly Bianco Murley Draper Ruscoe or Wilson, all of whom got the boot a year later.

Which suggests to me there were some major issues with the guy that the club dumped him after his 1st contract.

 

[Anzacday]

Always thought delisting him after just two? seasons was pretty poor form. Good luck to him with his second chance.

I thought it was a bit rough at the time.
However, given he’s been bypassed by all clubs for 2years since, I’m ok with it.
If it works out at Essendon, good luck to him.

 

[sr36]

At the time I thought we should have given him another year. Thought he was starting to show something.

McMahon moves really well and has nice skills - but the core of the role for our KPFs is physical contest - and that just isn't and never will be McMahon's go.

 

[ClaytonM]

McMahon moves really well and has nice skills - but the core of the role for our KPFs is physical contest - and that just isn't and never will be McMahon's go.

Not saying I think he would have made it, just it seemed we have kept others who were showing less.