Training 2019 Preseason

[Sir Skid]

I enjoy a good flogging!

Somehow I kinda knew that...

 

[Keg on legs]

That means they either haven't bought in or aren't prepared to pay the price for ultimate success.

Here's hoping the lesson has been learnt

 

[mightymalaka]

Kinda hard on Ross there. I’d say when fit he’s easily a walk up start.

I also reject this notion Human Person ( if you really are one that is )
I have categorically never been hard on Ross!

 

[VDS66]

I think for Marshall to play he has to beat out either paddy or Bruce.

We obviously don’t think we need him down back as even with the wounded back there he’s training with the forwards

I’m torn - with Bruce and membrey we have two elite runners when it comes to key forwards. If we select Marshall who in my mind is a good runner from his games last year (why do I have a feeling someone said he was near the back in the 2k) we’d have the opportunity to have a highly aerobic front 6 out there (Gresham in the mids). That could be something to challenge defences - potential differentiation from the norm.

On the flip side paddy has greater potential to take those pack marks and generally use his greater game sense - romo is very raw - a greater chance to become elite individually....

Will depend on the preferred set up obviously, but it's a tough one for sure.

Gut feel is Paddy will be afforded a few games because they have invested so much in him.

One thing I think will happen is we will play 3 smaller, faster players who can tackle.

Hence my doubt in Lonie... In my uneducated opinion.

 

[Nutsngum]

I was thinking about this today when I heard Cloke on the radio. Collingwood beat us in 2010 and have since built to a point of playing in another GF. We in the same period seem to have been trying to win to stem the bleeding without developing a longer term strategy and ended up bottom 4. I really hope we are looking at building a premiership side now not just trying to get back to a 10 win 9th place season.

Collingwood didnt waste 90% of their picks prior to 2011 and their current "premiership" team is propped up by old players. Our issue isnt some magic ability others have that we dont, its that damage that was done to our top end players last decade. Our list was stupidly young for a reason (and is still somewhat). Its why I am in no way worried about where we stand.

 

[VDS66]

I enjoy a good flogging!

Thank you Cho. May I please have another...

 

[Sir Skid]

So anyway, what's Kentie's nickname going to be?

 

[VDS66]

Here's hoping the lesson has been learnt

That will depend sadly.

If they haven't bought in then it's up to the coaches to push and punish them.

However if it's the latter then not.much you can do. IMO it's why some players with less talent make and so many waste it.

 

[VDS66]

So anyway, what's Kentie's nickname going to be?

Campaigner

Clam

Saddle bags

Take your pick...

 

[triggering bro]

Collingwood didnt waste 90% of their picks prior to 2011 and their current "premiership" team is propped up by old players. Our issue isnt some magic ability others have that we dont, its that damage that was done to our top end players last decade. Our list was stupidly young for a reason (and is still somewhat). Its why I am in no way worried about where we stand.

Collingwoods 2018 GF team had like 4 blokes that were on their list in 2010-11. They’ve recruited extremely well over the last few years & nailed a few high draft picks. Obviously they’ve got other off field stuff squared away as well.

 

[gringo2011]

Collingwood didnt waste 90% of their picks prior to 2011 and their current "premiership" team is propped up by old players. Our issue isnt some magic ability others have that we dont, its that damage that was done to our top end players last decade. Our list was stupidly young for a reason (and is still somewhat). Its why I am in no way worried about where we stand.

Hopefully we have turned the corner, Melbourne stuffed up drafting for years.

 

[Sir Skid]

Campaigner

Clam

Saddle bags

Take your pick...

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[Rors]

I have no idea what actually happened - and now live in Sydney so haven’t seen any live activity since last season - BUT what I have read on the forums - is that some blokes came back underdone from the off season - got a bake and then were actually motivated to ‘buy in’ by the new coaching group - they then maintained the enthusiasm through the Christmas off period and came back pretty good in 2019. - so no issue with the clubs pre Christmas message from what I can gather - and I would say - as has been stated on the forums - an understandable Sept/oct 2018 for young guys given where the club was at when they went on break - when they got back from that break the club had made some positive changes which the guys got on board with - so I don’t really see what your complaining about now that’s it’s Feb 2019 and the turn around in attitudes is reportedly very evident

Lazy as **** IMHO

The players knew who the new coaching staff would be because the changes were all announced even before the 2018 season ended.

Just a shit attitude & pathetic that they had to cop a bake to get their shit together. However, it appeared to be a very good wake up call & the players have gone above & beyond over Xmas break into 2019, so here’s hoping it bodes well for the season ahead

 

[VDS66]

Lazy as **** IMHO

The players knew who the new coaching staff would be because the changes were all announced even before the 2018 season ended.

Just a shit attitude & pathetic that they had to cop a bake to get their shit together. However, it appeared to be a very good wake up call & the players have gone above & beyond over Xmas break into 2019, so here’s hoping it bodes well for the season ahead

Ease up.

There's almost a hint of optimism in that post.

R U OK?

 

[BrutThough]

Lazy as **** IMHO

The players knew who the new coaching staff would be because the changes were all announced even before the 2018 season ended.

Just a shit attitude & pathetic that they had to cop a bake to get their shit together. However, it appeared to be a very good wake up call & the players have gone above & beyond over Xmas break into 2019, so here’s hoping it bodes well for the season ahead

It sounds like it was the 2nd-4th year group who came back underdone pre-chirstmas since the 5th years who returned with them (Sinclair, DMac, Paddy Steele) were all visually in fantastic shape and running great times.

Hopefully that experience and complacency has been smacked out of them by the new coaches. They are the ones we need to step up and disrupt the current best 22.

 

[majortinkle]

Lazy as **** IMHO

The players knew who the new coaching staff would be because the changes were all announced even before the 2018 season ended.

Just a shit attitude & pathetic that they had to cop a bake to get their shit together. However, it appeared to be a very good wake up call & the players have gone above & beyond over Xmas break into 2019, so here’s hoping it bodes well for the season ahead

Maybe our senior guys could have buddied up as training partners to the youngsters who live locally to them - it seems to have happened that way with others

 

[BrutThough]

That age group returning underdone also correlates with the speculation at the time regarding White being lapped in the time trial.
Disappointing but probably shows why he isn't being selected.

 

[mightymalaka]

That age group returning underdone also correlates with the speculation at the time regarding White being lapped in the time trial.
Disappointing but probably shows why he isn't being selected.

Shirley that wasn't for real? Was it?
That would be a case of the StKilda FC outdoing the StK FC! A new low in incompetence!

I remember the lad with his family the day he was drafted! Looked so pumped to be given the chance that so many dream of!
How do we take a kid with that glint in his eye
and turn him into the Galloping Gasometer?

 

[austinnn]

I've got a question about something that another poster mentioned about a week ago.

What is our initial backline going to be, bearing in mind that Brown will be serving one or two weeks suspension from 2018 and Austin and Carlisle are working their way back from injury? Who plays Brown's role; will it be Wilkie, Clav, Joyce, or other?

 

[Human Person]

I also reject this notion Human Person ( if you really are one that is )
I have categorically never been hard on Ross!

I'm as much of a human and a person as you are mighty and a Malaka.

And his Trevor Barker winning year didn't even elicit a semi?

 

[mightymalaka]

I'm as much of a human and a person as you are mighty and a Malaka.

And his Trevor Barker winning year didn't even elicit a semi?

Touche!
You would think a b & f would elicit a semi at the very least wouldn't you?
It would help if he didn't move like a crab!
Brings back sad memories!

 

[VDS66]

Touche!
You would think a b & f would elicit a semi at the very least wouldn't you?
It would help if he didn't move like a crab!
Brings back sad memories!

Sebs ears are too short, that's why...

 

[Nutsngum]

I've got a question about something that another poster mentioned about a week ago.

What is our initial backline going to be, bearing in mind that Brown will be serving one or two weeks suspension from 2018 and Austin and Carlisle are working their way back from injury? Who plays Brown's role; will it be Wilkie, Clav, Joyce, or other?

I dont know if round 1 will be THAT much of an issue with Gold Cost not exactly having a stellar forward line up. They may try Peter Wright or even Ben King up forward to try and stretch us though..

I do believe that one of Carlisle or Austin will be available come round 1 though and will be enough along with Roberton back to cover for talls.

 

[Premium]

I've got a question about something that another poster mentioned about a week ago.

What is our initial backline going to be, bearing in mind that Brown will be serving one or two weeks suspension from 2018 and Austin and Carlisle are working their way back from injury? Who plays Brown's role; will it be Wilkie, Clav, Joyce, or other?

By what I have seen on here , Joyce looks in great condition and Battle is being tried out in the backline.
However as you know they will see how they preform in the preseason games so Wilkie and Clavarino have a chance to show what they have.
At least now we have options when players go down.
So at this stage it could be

Geary - Joyce - McKenzie
Webster - Battle - Roberton
Acres - Steele - Sinclair
Billings - Bruce - Hannebery
Membery - McCartin - Gresham

Longer - Ross - Steven

so it will be interesting when Brown , Carlisle and Austin get back into the team
they say Brown is just about as fit as he has ever been - just hope Carlisle can get back up to speed quickly.

I'm interested in these guys , who will be in the 22
Coffield
Hunter
Parker
Phillips
Paton
Kent
Long
Newnes
Lonie
Young
Hind
Savage
Marshall
White
King
Bytel
Rice
Pierce

 

[Premium]

To me our season will hinge on these players
Steele , Acres , Billings , Gresham , Sinclair - if these guys can show they can dominate this season it will go a long way to us making finals or having a bad year.

If these guys can win their positions it will break open the game and if one of Bruce , McCartin or Membery can kick goals we will be on our way to winning games.

With Steven , Ross , Hannebery playing their usual good football Steele , Acres , Billings , Gresham , Sinclair will be the icing on the cake and I'm not even looking at Hunter , Coffield with a full season under their belt could be surprise packets.

Like always I'm hoping for the best - we need a couple of these guys to become stars