Player Watch Izak Rankine Part II

[Owen_AFC97]

They've fired up the AFL Mouthpiece tonight on 360

Whately is an AFL sycophant. No surprises.

 

[hippyhippy]

So if Izak has said an offensive word but the person it was directed at was not offended, then what even are we worrying about. Izak your up versus North Melbourne.

The Karen's are offended and angry they can't control what people say

 

[Crow till I die]

I love how C7 turn off ther comments section when the post this...frightened of the backlash maybe

 

[21knights]

I'm physically repulsed by paedophiles too am I paedophilephobe?

If that means you hate paedophiles then I'd say yes.

Can we clarify if you mean Paedophiles or Pederasty though?

 

[Moonwatcher]

Weirdly I don't think there would be this drama if Dire Straits or King Crimson were playing the AFL grand final.

The Dire Straits lyrics were critical of the homophobe depicted in the song.

 

[21knights]

That sounds simple, but real life isn’t always that black and white. People can say something offensive in anger, ignorance, or immaturity without it meaning they truly hold homophobic beliefs.

I obviously disagree with you. People that aren't homophobic don't use homophobic slurs as insults.

 

[Mattrox]

Houston should have got longer.

That's the well established sanction for his action.

The AFL are making shit up on the fly with the arbitrary sanctions. Thugery is worse than words. This is the frame of reference. Not your delusional key mashing, point of view.

 

[ftmch]

I'm not sure snoop thought out anything carefully back in the day. I do think he just chases $$$ and saying back then in his environment seemed acceptable to most. It doesn't mean it was and I think he sees that now. He is still kind of trash and just following the $$ though. I don't see him as a saviour of anything but he didn't have to come out publicly and support LGBTQ issues when he did. It seems he gained some friends in the community and a new understanding to go along with it which is great.

Interestingly if you look through his music he uses these slurs very rarely. I only know of two but wouldn't be surprised if there are more. This is dating right back to 1992. If you look at other artists in the same genre in the same period those slurs are absolutely rampant.

As much as I dislike him, people are now in 2025 trying to say he is a known homophobe which just isn't reality.

Yeah, you're missing the point entirely re Snoop Dog. It doesn't matter what his views are now, who he supports or what he donates to. The reality is he is being paid millions of dollars on the basis of a persona he built for himself back when he was this misognynistic spliff-smoking homophobe.

Does anyone really believe that people are coming to see the Snoop Dog of the last couple of years? Of course not - the fame and profile that still keeps him relevant and getting multi million dollar gigs like this is built off the person he was, not the person he is now. Hiring him now, is a nod to his past - it's naive or disingenous to think otherwise.

 

[21knights]

That's the well established sanction for his action.

The AFL are making shit up on the fly with the arbitrary sanctions. Thugery is worse than words. This is the frame of reference. Not your delusional key mashing, point of view.

You made a claim that I thought the two actions should get the same punishment and I demonstrated how you are wrong. I don't see the issue.

 

[21knights]

Yeah, you're missing the point entirely re Snoop Dog. It doesn't matter what his views are now, who he supports or what he donates to. The reality is he is being paid millions of dollars on the basis of a persona he built for himself back when he was this misognynistic spliff-smoking homophobe.

Does anyone really believe that people are coming to see the Snoop Dog of the last couple of years? Of course not - the fame and profile that still keeps him relevant and getting multi million dollar gigs like this is built off the person he was, not the person he is now. Hiring him now, is a nod to his past - it's naive or disingenous to think otherwise.

Are his biggest songs homophobic? Is he going to perform them at the Grand final?

 

[PeterSalt]

There can be nuance to the use of a word. A friend and I use the p homophobic slur in private quite often. The nuance is that we're taking the piss out of the culture we grew up in - rather than being abusive about homosexuality.

When you're using it to insult someone, you are being abusive about homosexuality. There isn't nuance.

I don't think it says anything about Rankin's views. He might just be using it like a swear word without any real meaning - like any of those insults ending in "head" or "wit." But that doesn't change the reality that you just can't use it without a significant consequence.

My use of the word nuance wasn't in relation to the manner in which the word was used

It was more about looking at the incident from a broader spectrum

A lot of people seem are focused purely on Izak called IQ (or someone else) a homophobic slur therefore he must get this punishment because that's what somebody got

I just think that there's a little more to this particular incident

 

[Mattrox]

You made a claim that I thought the two actions should get the same punishment and I demonstrated how you are wrong. I don't see the issue.

Sea Lioning.

You demonstrated you are lacking basic emotional intelligence and intellectual integrity.

Shifting goal posts. Outrageous claims.

 

[TBM]

Whateley on 360 going with the third night in a row of being all high and mighty and Rankine deserves the book thrown at him. Thinks the Houston-hit taunts are hardly grounds for being provoked and that Adelaide should just accept.

Clearly has no idea how of injuries (especially ones from dirty hits like Houstons) can trigger PTSD and agitate one's mental state. Or maybe just cos its not a Victorian club.

Garry, to his credit, believes the club are doing the right thing by the supporters and fighting for our player.

 

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Homophobes never think they are. That's how it works. The word doesn't mean you're scared of it. You're disgusted and physically repulsed by it because you're a homophobe.

Mostyn's burner account?

 

[WheresGroomgone]

When you're not homophobic you don't use homophobic slurs, it's very simple.

It’s not that simple at all - in the community I live many of the indigenous crew use the “n” word when talking to each other does that mean they’re racist? They also regularly call each other cats and yes use the f word.

I have used the f word before when giving my brother in law curry and he’s being a di#k[he lives with his partner] we holiday together and the two of them are our family. He calls me a “breeder”. This is not out at a restaurant etc. but at home.

I wouldn’t dare use any homophobic or racist terms as an insult as that’s not me but yes crucify me I have called someone I love a ****.

 

[Rotayjay]

Sledging death to relatives is considered a lesser offence..Case and point.

Remember when Zinedine Zedane got sent off in a World Cup final for headbutting Marco Materazzi? He has never revealed the words that provoked him, but said it was about his family. That headbutt could've cost him and his country a World Cup.

 

[Smart Fella]

This is an interesting discussion, one that actually deserves some nuance and consideration.

I don't think finding the thought of 2 guys having sex disgusting makes you homophobic - I think treating them differently and negatively as a result, does.

Some people get turned on by pissing on each other, it's not for me, but I couldn't care less what people do in their private lives (provided it doesn't involve kids/animals); if you're a good person, the rest doesn't matter.

Interested in knowing how you are certain that being pissed on isn't for you lol

 

[Brasher]

I obviously disagree with you. People that aren't homophobic don't use homophobic slurs as insults.

Total BS, I learnt all the homophobic slurs from my gay friends who used them in everyday conversation. I had a gay boss of 8 years who used the exact word as Rankine did to regularly refer to his life partner.

The language was so common I had to consciously vet my words outside of those circles.

 

[feenix67]

Adam Simpson, however was excellent on 360.

 

[pjcrows]

Adam Simpson, however was excellent on 360.

Simpson knows his future is in club land, not the sycophantic media.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Are the AFL considering Rankines mental health in all of this and the consequences of a finals ban?

You can’t preach concerns about mental health and then ignore it.

 

[Stripple]

Incredibly offensive to a straight person? This confuses me so much.

It's offensive because it's being used to demean that group of people - irregardless of if its aimed at someone who is LGBTQI+.
If you say to someone what are you some kind of f****t? It's implying that's a bad thing. In fact alot of the time straight (homophobes) do get upset with it becuase in their minds it's a bad thing, one of the worst you could be called. And no one is using it in the context of a bundle of sticks or meatballs.

Using this logic (he didn't say it to a gay person) then any player could use it all the time and could also use the n-bomb as long as it's not directed at a first nations person.

It's dumb to argue this is a reason he shouldn't be reprimanded.

There are plenty of other legitimate reasons to argue about the penalty length/impact/process/afl inconsistency or better ways to handle this than outright implying he has nothing to answer for because how can it be offensive he said it to a straight person.

 

[BunjiMC]

Are his biggest songs homophobic? Is he going to perform them at the Grand final?

This is his most listened song on Spotify. Almost 1 billion more streams compared to his next most listened. Seems appropriate for the gf.....

 

[BunjiMC]

Next most streamed song. 5th and 6th line seem appropriate with the shootings in Sydney nightclubs....

 

[Mattrox]

I don't see the issue.

Everything you sais before this is word salad. The last thing you have said is the only true thing. You are blind to all the issues.