USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

[Gethelred]

Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

Thanks all.

 

[Cyg1992]

The same people were pining for COVID to let rip and said **** your grandma actually she had a good life

The death and destruction party suddenly care about human life when the guy who died is one of their propagandist who was also rooting for death and destruction

It's the perfect personification of **** you and yours, I've got mine.

Like I said yesterday, Kirk didn't deserve assassination and actually very few are celebrating he died.

But in the wake of his death he deserves nothing more than the empty thoughts and prayers him and his ilk offered to the poor loved ones of the kids who have been slaughtered whilst trying to learn at school.
Due to policies not only supported by Kirk, but shamelessly using his influence to get politicians and lobby groups to keep them alive and make sure the killing continues.

You would think they use this as a learning experience to finally feel empathy for others now they've been on the other side of it.
But by Monday they'll be back to cheering on drone strikes on defenseless boats, deporting gardeners to countries they aren't even from to get tortured to death and more bombs pummeling Gaza so their daddy can build his new Dubai.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Totally normal.

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I posted it before but it bears posting again. Here is Charlie affirming at 1:50 that executing homosexual men is "God's Perfect Law". He is, therefore, advocating it.



although Charlie himself got it wrong - it wasn't Leviticus 18 but 20, verse 13!!

 

[Chief]

deporting gardeners to countries they aren't even from

And imprisoning anyone with a beard that looks a bit too thick like that guy from Belfast.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Im stuck between being a conservationist and being slightly titilated by their escape in wa.

Of course I will take it upon myself to go out and shoot one or two a year to do my bit!!

*breaks arm patting himself on the back

Mate as long as you end them humanely go for it.

 

[sdfc]

I’m in the pies in the face true believers club.

Oh and of course punch Nazis…..

whether that's ok depends on how widely you define Nazi.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

whether that's ok depends on how widely you define Nazi.

Anyone that share their abhorrent ideals is a good starting point - rose by any other name.

 

[Romeoh1]

Watters is the real deal as a half wit.

 

[sdfc]

Anyone that share their abhorrent ideals is a good starting point - rose by any other name.

So belief in racial supremacy is your guardrail?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

‘You don’t have to be insane to kill somebody. You just have to think you are right’

- Yoko Taro

 

[Ice-Wolf]

So belief in racial supremacy is your guardrail?

Have I set the bar too high?

 

[sdfc]

Have I set the bar too high?

Yes or no would have made more sense.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

So belief in racial supremacy is your guardrail?

Why is the Racist Right abhorrent? They deny equality and the ability to participate in society on equal footing - not to individuals for crimes or misdemeanors but to entire ethnic groups, cultures, religions and nationalities. For what? Being a different shade of skin. For having differing beliefs.

As a person with left-wing beliefs I only want them excluded - from politics if not from life itself - because they themselves seek to exclude others. They work directly against the idea of a collective humanity and so deserve no human rights protections themselves.

To hell with the Racist Right.

 

[evolved2]

Did trans people do anything worthy of death?

How many trans people did he shoot?

 

[james brayshaw]

If you think political violence is ok, you're probably at the extremist end of the spectrum.

You're a ****ing moron if you don't think political violence is ok in certain circumstances. The issue is what circumstances, it's a shame he's dead, but society as a whole will be better off without him.

 

[Chief]

How many trans people did he shoot?

We'll never know now, will we?

 

[evolved2]

I don't know, it's a complex question. Does anyone? Some would say no. If we start from the premise that some do, then I would say that I've seen many less deserving people. His preaching strengthened the ability of future school shooters to access firearms and kill more children. He said the murders of those children are "worth it" to enable his ideal world. Therefore, he was an advocate for policies that will directly lead to more child murders. That's abominable. And so it's quite ironic that he died from the same thing he advocated for.

While I earlier thought he deserved it, after mulling over it for a day, I now think he deserved a punch in the face rather than murder. Does that make me sad about his death, or think it was a tragedy? Not in the least. Outside of the impact on his family, American society is a better place without him. Shall we say, it would have been better that he died of natural causes. Then his contribution to enabling future murders of innocents would have still evaporated without potentially leading to further murders.

It's an interesting question for free speech absolutists like myself.

I'm saddened by his death even though I disagree with his religious and political views.

We lost a good man, husband and father. He's a martyr.

 

[Chief]

We'll never know now, will we? Many millions or more

Millions! Wow.

 

[evolved2]

We'll never know now, will we?

Words are violence, yeah?

Rational people know. I'm saddened by his passing and what it represents.

 

[Chief]

He's a martyr.

شهيد​

 

[evolved2]

I've always viewed the left as violent and hoped I was wrong.

 

[Chief]

Words are violence, yeah?

You think so? OK.

Rational people know. I'm saddened by his passing and what it represents.

Why are you saddened and what does it represent?

 

[Chief]

I've always viewed the left as violent and hoped I was wrong.

Only leftist words are violent?

 

[evolved2]

شهيد​

Yep.

I'm saddened by his death.

 

[kickazz]

I've always viewed the left as violent and hoped I was wrong.

Well I mean some are, most aren't. Just like with conservatives.

What is "the left" anyway? It's pretty broad.

 

[evolved2]

Only leftist words are violent?

Only the left view words as being violent.

That's how they justify shooting a man who spoke violence.