USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

[Gethelred]

Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

Thanks all.

 

[GreyCrow]

The meaning has changed to now being phoney far left people that are almost religious like.

It's not overly difficult to understand.

So antifa are fighting the left

And the right are not ok with that?

 

[T2B_]

So looks like a groyper, or at the very least just a nutcase with a gun that wanted to see chaos ensue.

 

[10571z]

Killed by a meme...

Charlie Kirk was killed by a meme

Making sense of our dark new era of extremely online political violence

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Killed by a deranged lunatic.

 

[JackFlash]

So they have caught the young bloke who did it. Now what? It will be a circus over there as they destroy this brainwashed fool's life! Some of the vile celebratory tik tok videos should be met with charges of incitement as the hateful and violent Left will probably go into bat for this 22 year old nutjob? If he had something to say and he was against Kirk, why didn't he try and come up to the microphone and make his case? The answer is simple, he had no argument!

 

[GreyWind]

That are inscribing Antifa slogans on the casings?

Because the left/anti fascist movement is made up of white male nut jobs.... (Female too and everything in between apparently as well ).

The lefty cope in this thread is something to behold!

Granted it wasn't word for word, but the sentiment remained the same. It was a Kirk quote about David DePape's attack on Paul Pelosi.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I did gamble this nutcase was a lefty, seems that’s wrong at this stage. Someone posted something that said he was a republican but inactive.

So I will cop that and admit error.

 

[T2B_]

So they have caught the young bloke who did it. Now what? It will be a circus over there as they destroy this brainwashed fool's life! Some of the vile celebratory tik tok videos should be met with charges of incitement as the hateful and violent Left will probably go into bat for this 22 year old nutjob? If he had something to say and he was against Kirk, why didn't he try and come up to the microphone and make his case? The answer is simple, he had no argument!

Is the hateful and violent left in the room with you right now?

 

[10571z]

So they have caught the young bloke who did it. Now what? It will be a circus over there as they destroy this brainwashed fool's life! Some of the vile celebratory tik tok videos should be met with charges of incitement as the hateful and violent Left will probably go into bat for this 22 year old nutjob? If he had something to say and he was against Kirk, why didn't he try and come up to the microphone and make his case? The answer is simple, he had no argument!

Just give him the death penalty and be done with it.

 

[pjcrows]

So they have caught the young bloke who did it. Now what? It will be a circus over there as they destroy this brainwashed fool's life! Some of the vile celebratory tik tok videos should be met with charges of incitement as the hateful and violent Left will probably go into bat for this 22 year old nutjob? If he had something to say and he was against Kirk, why didn't he try and come up to the microphone and make his case? The answer is simple, he had no argument!

It's Utah. He'll sit on death row for 20 years.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

I did gamble this nutcase was a lefty, seems that’s wrong at this stage. Someone posted something that said he was a republican but inactive.

So I will cop that and admit error.

No you blew your load too early, hoping it was one thing when there was no evidence.

A 4chan poltard shot another 4chan poltard.

A big fat nothingburger in the end.

 

[schneebly111]

Killed by a meme...

Charlie Kirk was killed by a meme

Making sense of our dark new era of extremely online political violence

www.garbageday.email

Many extremism researchers this morning are wondering if Robinson is a self-identified “groyper,” or follower of far-right streamer Nick Fuentes. As we wrote yesterday, Fuentes has spent years attacking Kirk online. Groypers believed that Kirk was a sellout and blocking a much more extreme version of Trumpism from taking root. For years, Groypers have been carrying out what they call “Groyper Wars,” attending Kirk’s events and trying to disrupt them. For what it’s worth, 4chan users think Robinson was a Groyper.

Hard to believe but yes there are members of the the far right out there who think Kirk wasn’t far right enough. They are more terminally online and perhaps Kirk was a little too “traditional conservative” for them.

 

[kickazz]

Shit you guys are quick to try and distance him from being left/anti fascist type with very very little info. Stop grasping.

Is it grasping or just like reporting facts/evidence?

 

[Cap]

So good to see 4chan slandering someone's name all over the internet again, only to be wrong.

The absolute desperation of Kirk/Trump fans to try and get this to be anything else than a straight, white male (likely Trump supporter) is only slightly less funny than their desperate attempts at moral high ground as people regurgitated Kirks own words back at them when they were screaming at people to be empathetic.

I assume this is what happens when you support a a guy hiding the Epstein files.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Charlie Kirk was not the government though.

No but it's still inherently a political position
It's a delicate balance for PS to negotiate

 

[Cap]

Shit you guys are quick to try and distance him from being left/anti fascist type with very very little info. Stop grasping.

at least they didn't declare war on anyone

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Surely you don't expect people on here to give you information that doesn't favour their views?

The guy was a radicalised LWNJ indoctrinated by modern misguided leftist diatribe and rhetoric in high school/college.

from a left leaning media outlet:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah

“pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.

Why did you cut off the first part of that?

In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous,

 

[H Dolphin]

I did gamble this nutcase was a lefty, seems that’s wrong at this stage. Someone posted something that said he was a republican but inactive.

So I will cop that and admit error.

Perhaps your error is in dismissing leftness. Left-right is attitude / belief. Robinson is reported to have described Kirk’s university visits as spreading hate. The hate speech issue is left.

 

[neko]

Hard to believe but yes there are members of the the far right out there who think Kirk wasn’t far right enough. They are more terminally online and perhaps Kirk was a little too “traditional conservative” for them.

Very hard to believe but I guess it's an explanation. The question is how can you be more far right than Kirk. But I know groypers usually are pretty insane.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

People need to be careful about making judgement based on emotions.The simple statistical truth is that the vast majority of political violence in the USA is conducted by right wing gun nuts and it was always logical that it would be one of these folks despite Kirk's personal views.

Kind of wild to see the same people who jumped to conclusions about Trump's would be assassin's beliefs were so quick to fall for the same mistake.

 

[kickazz]

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oh dear

 

[sherb]

Killed by a deranged lunatic.

And it's important to try to understand why and how he became that way.

Hence the article in question.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I am continually amused at those who decry the Antifa tag

I mean it is literally anti fascism/ists

Do you who hate antifa support a fascist government?

It's crazy isn't it?

You can be anti-fascist regardless of political affiliation.

I love how those on the right constantly put their hands up hating on anti-fascists, because they believe their own side are the facists.

 

[Cooldude]

The right wing keeps producing domestic terrorists and mass shooters, a violent ideology, that Kirk, as horrible as he is, was done in by someone even further right than him sums it up

 

[Festerz]

The spin...




The University of Utah, in Salt Lake City, Utah is not exactly a radical leftist haven. And Robinson was there for....one semester.

But yeah, those sly scheming professors.

 

[GreyCrow]

So they have caught the young bloke who did it. Now what? It will be a circus over there as they destroy this brainwashed fool's life! Some of the vile celebratory tik tok videos should be met with charges of incitement as the hateful and violent Left will probably go into bat for this 22 year old nutjob? If he had something to say and he was against Kirk, why didn't he try and come up to the microphone and make his case? The answer is simple, he had no argument!

To paraphrase Breaker Morant as played by Edward Woodward

' he had 303 arguments '