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USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

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Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

Thanks all.
 
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The interesting thing is the Trump assassination attempt and now the Kirk assassination appears to be from perpetrator on the right side beliefs.

There's the splintering into more extreme ideas. And there's what might happen when some end up feeling duped by their conservative cult leaders.
 
Sure it is but it's also true at the same time.

If you invade, or attack, another nation then you, as the government, are ultimately responsible for what happens to your people.

Unless we expect nations to not retaliate when attacked?

A similar thing is happening on the Thai/Cambodia border currently.

Cambodia attacked first and now they're complaining to Thailand, the UN, even SAAB, that they shouldn't be retaliating and how unfair it is.

Ultimately is is Hamas' fault Israel invaded as, presumably, it would've never happened if October 7th didn't occur and Hamas could've released the hostages and surrendered and the war would've ended there and then.

If Israel invaded first and Hamas retaliated, then it'd be Israel's fault.
Lol, a standard and tired Israeli talking point.

"Hamas made us commit genocide and war crimes".

No, Israel's behaviour is 100% on..............Israel.
 

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Lol, a standard and tired Israeli talking point.

"Hamas made us commit genocide and war crimes".

No, Israel's behaviour is 100% on..............Israel.

And Palestine's behavior is also on Israel, I presume?
there are other threads to discuss this
 
Yep confirmed.
A trained military sniper who adjusted a super long shot due to wind interference.
A shot that an average hunter couldn't make.
Ahahahah Americans.
Just full of hot air and hubris.

Average hunter could make that shot. Average American hunter is much more proficient than average Australian hunter.
 

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Exactly that was the point I made 2 days ago.
And then the internet experts come out with the over the top summations.

Don’t get me wrong it would take practice….but with the right equipment it’s doable for the average hunter.
 

So political violence is on the decline especially for right wing groups!

Good to hear thanks for driving this point home mate, we should all be happy about that!

If you thumbs down this I guess you are disappointed the right aren’t being more violent… how weird?
 
So political violence is on the decline especially for right wing groups!

Good to hear thanks for driving this point home mate, we should all be happy about that!

If you thumbs down this I guess you are disappointed the right aren’t being more violent… how weird?
Have you sent Dementia Donny a sternly worded letter yet, condemning him for blaming the shooting on the left and distancing the right from it?
 
If you thumbs down this I guess you are disappointed the right aren’t being more violent… how weird?



A strawman argument is a logical fallacy where someone misrepresents or distorts an opponent's argument to make it easier to attack. Instead of engaging with the actual, nuanced position of their opponent, the person creating a strawman creates an exaggerated or weaker version of that argument—a "strawman"—and then refutes this distorted version. This technique diverts from the real issue, making it seem as though the opponent's argument has been effectively countered when, in reality, the core point was never addressed
 
Erika Kirk speech.The wife.

She told “the evil-doers responsible for my husband’s assassination,” that “if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world.”

“You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” she said. “The movement my husband built will not die.”


Hmm, she seems nice.
 

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Maybe Peewee German should concentrate on his fellow travellers.

 

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