List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread (Cont’d)

[BillyElliott]

Jakob Ryan won that award last year mate, come on

Didn't Joe Richards win it last year?

 

[WanderingDude]

How did Allan have a breakout year? It is in fact pretty crazy to back a fringe AFL-calibre player over a 28 year old who just averaged 25 touches a game

Before this year 2 games. This year played 13 games. That is a breakout season. Especially given the physical requirements on his body type. I am not sold but must get games.

 

[Jafo]

Hahaha. Tell em they are dreaming. Out of contract MSD pick.
Pick 50 at best

Almost sounding like the Swans want a Sam Murray kind of trade. But more going their way.

 

[stormskye]

Ryan injured this year. I wouldn’t give up on him.
I’m pretty bullish on our kids and am not convinced we need a guy like Oliver.

Do you watch the vfl games jmac?

 

[Scodog10]

Both Long and Allan had break out years. It’s not crazy to suggest we back them over an ageing Oliver.

 

[jmac70]

Can you show us what you mean visually?

 

[gouki88]

Ryan injured this year. I wouldn’t give up on him.
I’m pretty bullish on our kids and am not convinced we need a guy like Oliver.

We fell short this year and our rivals are all adding players who will improve them. Our youth will not progress to the level of Clayton Oliver reached in 2025, and more likely than not will never.

Oliver had multiple 30 disposal per game seasons under his belt at the same age as Allan & Long.

 

[stormskye]

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Hogan was written off. Went on to dominate and won a Coleman.

 

[TradeDraft]

Jakob Ryan won that award last year mate, come on

Had Injury Issues that held Ryan back

 

[jmac70]

 

[jmac70]

Hogan was written off. Went on to dominate and won a Coleman.

Yes he did.
Not sure what this has to do with pudding guts Oliver.

 

[gouki88]

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Reminds me of someone (who would have played well into his 30s had he not smashed his leg)

 

[Scodog10]

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[sr36]

That may be the case but like I said before, at what cost? Taking on Oliver could also hand cuff us for a play next year and beyond for much better options.

FOMO about future unknown possibilities won't be a factor in the decision.

 

[gouki88]

Had Injury Issues that held Ryan back

I think talent issues are more the issue with Ryan. Hope I’m proven wrong

 

[BEEG]

Both Long and Allan had break out years. It’s not crazy to suggest we back them over an ageing Oliver.

Long is awful mate.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Every list manager says they're not going to trade their contracted players

It doesn't mean they won't.

"We'll be holding him to his contract"

One week later, they're trading him for unders

 

[jmac70]

Is that recent?

 

[jmac70]

Long is awful mate.

I beeg to differ.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

He prefaced his comments by offering that the club had invited him and that he’d chased Peter over the weekend, but made it out that Peter was ducking him. It was really grubby. Hird’s comments suggested he wasn’t keen on it when it was on the rundown sheet because he seemed to want to distance himself from it.

 

[sr36]

Number 1 is can we really win the flag next year with Oliver?
If the answer is yes, they might take him.
Number 2 is can he contribute for at least 4 years whilst the veterans retire.

The answer is a clear yes to those two questions. But it's the probability of them occurring that is the real question.

 

[Jafo]

Is this the trainer JUH was training with for a bit too?

 

[jmac70]

Reminds me of someone (who would have played well into his 30s had he not smashed his leg)

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He was one in a million.
Collingwood royalty.

 

[Scodog10]

I reckon you were as close with that as you were commenting on Oliver’s rig

I don’t agree with most of what you’ve posted tonight and it feels like you’ve made your mind up so you’re now just doubling down, but I would at least be able to understand concerns purely around him making it to 33.

 

[BillyElliott]

Is Kris available?