List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread (Cont’d)

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Then we're stuck paying half his contract.

We won a flag paying Grundy Treloar and Beams to not play for us.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I’m just gonna come out and say it

If you’re team No Oliver you’re not a Collingwood supporter

 

[Apex36]

Agreed I think their price will start steep and it’ll be on the manager to bring them back to earth.

Once Oliver decides on his destination the negotiation would be “token pick and you pay the $700k, or he plays VFL for you for $1.3m” from his destination club. Melbourne will ask for more initially, but the sentiment will be echoed by him and his management.

Most of the time players will want their original club to be fairly compensated. This is not going to be the case with Oliver. He’s furious and would feel he owes Melbourne nothing but pain.

 

[jmac70]

What were our “sinister” reasons for off loading Grundy and Treloar, with heavy commitments to ongoing contract payments.

There weren’t any. It was all about the contracts.

Like it or not, there are other considerations with Oliver.

 

[jmac70]

I’m just gonna come out and say it

If you’re team #NoO#NoOliver’re not a Collingwood supporter

What a load of shit.

 

[lyfsux]

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mine puts that to shame

 

[sr36]

His best is three years ago.

Two and a half - it was the middle of 2023 when he had the odd "hamstring" injury - it all went south after that.

I've got no idea what we should do. I'm more pointing out how good this bloke can be and why we'd do it if that's the way we go. Here's a list of the most contested possessions in a season since they've been recording them. He's got 3 of the top 10 seasons for that stat. He can win the footy like very few others:

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

What a load of shit.

Learn sarcasm/jokes boomer

 

[leon123]

I’m tipping this thread will turn pretty sharply when people see what Melbourne are willing to deal on Oliver.

Cmon jmac, you will love it when cox taps to oliver, who handballs it to naicos, naicos to rambo... goal

 

[Fruit]

Does anyone know if Oliver wants to play for us?

 

[Lings of Geelong]

Isn't Steele owed $1M/year for a couple of years? We'd be wanting the Saints to stump up $300K/year if we took him on.

Another lifelong Collingwood fan, hailing from the mighty Belconnen Magpies

 

[No SPIN]

There weren’t any. It was all about the contracts.

Like it or not, there are other considerations with Oliver.

And you have no confidence that Leppa will ensure he’s covered off those other “circumstances”, if we recruit him?

 

[lyfsux]

Do you reckon he will rock up in that shape for preseason training?

as long as its not Melb pre season it'll be a certainty

 

[leon123]

Does anyone know if Oliver wants to play for us?

Minor details

 

[jmac70]

Does anyone know if Oliver wants to play for us?

Not even Oliver knows that.

 

[jmac70]

And you have no confidence that Leppa will ensure he’s covered off those other “circumstances”, if we recruit him?

We won’t recruit him.

 

[Piestration]

FOMO about future unknown possibilities won't be a factor in the decision.

FOMO about future known possibilities will be a factor

 

[WanderingDude]

Leppa and the club have heaps of information not available to us and they are investigating because it is required. As Collingwood supporter who has free thought.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I'm reliably told that Clarry's clearance numbers would be #2 behind Nick this year, can someone confirm.

Yep, averaged 5.5 clearances (=27th in the league). Daicos (6.2 - =13th) the only Pie to better that.

 

[DopeMaster]

No, if we change financial terms of the contract after the trade then unless Melbourne agree to it they no longer have to contribute. Why would they do us that favour?

In our initial agreement with them, We may stipulate that their contributions persist no matter what happens to his contract thereafter? If not they can keep him, play him in the VFL etc…

I imagine it all would come down to the terms of our initial agreement with Melbourne, and we can make it whatever we want so long as both parties agree.

 

[NQPieman]

All in on Oliver.

Steele I'm a big NO.

30 in December and plays like a 35 year old unfortunately he is washed.

Agree. I've never really bought into the Steele hype of years past. Is tough but very limited footballer. Has no weapons. Oliver has a higher ceiling.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Just looked it up - he was 25th in the league for total clearances this year. In his best years he was number 1. He's an awesome ball winner. There's no doubt that as an on-field player he would make us better.

Goody played him in a couple of different roles (tagging/run with) this year which would have contributed to his reduced numbers.

 

[sr36]

FOMO about future known possibilities will be a factor

If you're going on FOMO, you're taking Clayton Oliver. There isn't a bigger upside potential than adding him on the cheap.

 

[devize]

Oliver has had years to improve his disposal, discipline and decision making. He has chosen to present unfit and has been away from the club for periods. Long is learning quick, younger and may learn his limitations very well. He has the years to learn, is trainable and is developing quickly. Long trains hard and is professional. Oliver had the higher ceiling.

Oliver was an AA at an age younger the Ned currently is. Actually find it crazy that people think Ned can ever get to Oliver's level, past or present.

 

[gouki88]

Oliver was an AA at an age younger the Ned currently is. Actually find it crazy that people think Ned can ever get to Oliver's level, past or present.

One of the better mids of the past decade