List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part V

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 5

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[akaifu]

"It's an enquiry"

- Twomey on [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD]'s Melbourne interest

 

[_Maximus_12]

As if we have deleted Mackies number

As if we ever saved it!

 

[Broski]

I actually wouldn’t be against Florent for a 3rd rounder. Fell out of favour this year but played some pretty decent footy in Swans GF year in 2024, could see a role for him as a small defender. 184 games experience and only recently turned 27, durable and fits right into the profile we need for a finals push.

The problem is that he would be on sizeable coin for a player that would not be a guaranteed first-team player. Plus, it would take game time away from players like Boxshall, Garcia etc.

 

[stavro#4]

Better be an incoming if Steele and Rowan go

 

[Captain Paddy]

Unless we're getting back a future first rounder from Melbourne I'd actually just rather keep Steele.

If he wants to fight for his position, I'd rather have a hungry Steele than a third rounder

 

[DarkSaint]

Turn Steele into MacKenzie somehow and call it a day.

 

[akaifu]

Better be an incoming if Steele and Rowan go

Soldo

 

[bakes10]

Better be an incoming if Steele and Rowan go

Nah, I’m happy for the young midfielders to take Jack’s spot .

Re: Ro, he was going to play forward anyway and we have that covered.

Happy to give our kids another year of learning on the job.

 

[St Neil]

19 and a F1 minimum I reckon

The media narrative is changing as well.

The media are starting to say the say thing.

Those who were suggesting we should take pick 19 should never be listened to again.

 

[Half Back Pocket]

Both Steele and Marshall are managed by Hemisphere.

Guarantee that one will be moving late tonight...going down to the wire, but expected to get done.

 

[St Neil]

Twomey predicts that Row stays a Saint

He wasn’t certain though.

 

[SaintSteele9]

I can’t fathom that a club at the eleventh hour enquires to a player like Steele who is happy/keen to stay - as if he has enough time to legitimately do his due diligence on a move to the Dees?

 

[LuckyBounce!]

The media narrative is changing as well.

The media are starting to say the say thing.

Those who were suggesting we should take pick 19 should never be listened to again.

Looking at you purple flog

 

[maanco]

I actually wouldn’t be against Florent for a 3rd rounder. Fell out of favour this year but played some pretty decent footy in Swans GF year in 2024, could see a role for him as a small defender. 184 games experience and only recently turned 27, durable and fits right into the profile we need for a finals push.

What's his experience as a defender?

 

[SaintSteele9]

this guys career is 100% reading Bigfooty and reporting is as new 2 days later

Nah, Twomey gets the good stuff. I listen when he talks.

The rest of them though, absolutely!!

 

[nikkig98]

Nah, Twomey gets the good stuff. I listen when he talks.

The rest of them though, absolutely!!

Cal probably the closest the AFL has to a Fabrizio Romano

 

[phantom13]

Just remember. There doesn’t seem to be a player coming back today.

So they are magic beans in place of Row and 12 months of Soldo according to Tom Morris.

To me it remains the same convo about whether you think we can play em both.

If we cant (which is what i think) then the picks are pretty good. Noting i reckon we wanna do next years cause we clearly dont care about this draft anyway.

If we can then yeh agreed.

I still think we should be saying future first and a player just to make them actually hand something over they care about. They always claim their culture is so good cause they never have to ask players to **** off.

 

[saintmike65]

I really hope you are right.

It's a big win for our finals and flag prospects next year if marshall stays and the cats have stanley etc.

We should be saying no unless its daylight robbery

Tend to agree with Gerard Healy...we're a better side with both Marshall and TDK

 

[CaptainRisky]

Further to this, all seems dependant on list spots but if you could turn Ronnie Byrnes into Florent that’s a win.

Are you drunk , Byrnes for Florent

 

[L_W_P]

Cho is genuinely a chode. Selling off Oliver for a third but would pay a late first/second for Steele

How tf does this make any sense.

Fwiw I hope we keep Steele.

Dees:
Out - F1st
In - Steele, Jiath

Hawks:
In - F1st (Melb)
Out - Jiath + CMac

Saints:
Out - Steele
In - CMac

???

 

[phantom13]

Off topic slightly, but I think it’s insane what Carlton and Essendon expect for Curnow / Merrett. Hawks offer in particular I thought was pretty good, can’t see a deal happening as it would need to be ridiculous.

Dont agree at all.

Merett is an absolute star and Essendon should rightly be asking for a kings ransom, Essendon also already has a shitload of high picks.

Carlton probably a little less so but the offer from Sydney is miles better than the Hawks offer to the bombers.

 

[stavro#4]

Nah, I’m happy for the young midfielders to take Jack’s spot .

Re: Ro, he was going to play forward anyway and we have that covered.

Happy to give our kids another year of learning on the job.

If we expect to make finals in 2026.

The list looks a hell of a lot more finals like with Ro and Steele.

If both go, that’s a lot of experience and talent - aswell as flexibility with Rowan, gone.

I was all for both moves. But I really did believe something was going to shake loose late for us.

 

[phantom13]

Dees:
Out - F1st
In - Steele, Jiath

Hawks:
In - F1st (Melb)
Out - Jiath + CMac

Saints:
Out - Steele
In - CMac

???

I dont rate C-Mac that highly but id do that

 

[chris_h_11]

Hawthorn get reamed worse then traffic at Dingley but yeah I’d take that in a heartbeat.

I'm not so sure. With no Petracca or Oliver and a new coach, Melb's future first could easily be a top 5 pick.

 

[L_W_P]

Hawthorn get reamed worse then traffic at Dingley but yeah I’d take that in a heartbeat.

They are getting a 3rd for CJ so it values CMac around a late 1st? Dees first should be top 6-8 next year BUT I would assume they flip it for Merrett.

They do 9 + Dees 1st + Hustwaite for Merrett.