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Recommitted Zach Merrett [UFA 2027] - Wanted a trade to Hawthorn, but it didn't get done

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bzparkes said:
Suggest you look at what Sydney ponied up for Curnow to actually land their man.
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3 firsts. One of which is in the very compromised 27 draft so that works out about even given hawks had 3 firsts on the table.

Swans put Hayward forward but are also having to give up 3 2nd rounders. So pretty even depending on how Hayward is rated.

Given Curnow is a year and a half younger and won 2 Coleman’s he’s also worth a lot more than Merrett despite that the offers ended up being not that far apart.
 
Dewyyyyy said:
The point of Merrett was “not banking on it”.

With Day the midfield is pretty good. There’s a heap of development with Mackenzie, Butler and Hustwaite ontop of Ward, Newcombe and Day.

The three parts were

  • Days injury
  • Ward, Mackenzie, Butler etc development
  • Merrett

I presume Hawthorn go for a mid in the draft who could very well play early, maybe someone like:

* subject to availability

  • Greeves (big bodied smooth moving damaging mid/fwd utility / can play in defense)
  • Grlj (speedy mid)
  • Robey (bolter as a big bodied mid-fwd)
  • Farrow (elite left foot with size and power)
  • Dovaston (speedy small forward who impressed at Box Hill)

There’s a quite few others aswell.
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This is so generous, with a fit day the midfield is still average. Would be behind Freo, Brisbane, GC, GWS, Sydney, Dogs, Port.
 
Shueygod said:
This is so generous, with a fit day the midfield is still average. Would be behind Freo, Brisbane, GC, GWS, Sydney, Dogs, Port.
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Day and Newcombe are a quality one two combo

You add onto that Ward, Nash, Mackenzie and Butler and it’s a pretty good midfield.

Especially considering Meek is a strong ruck, Weddle and Mass let’s say as the wingers too.

The level of development is very high and at the very least is a pretty good midfield.
 

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Dewyyyyy said:
Day and Newcombe are a quality one two combo

You add onto that Ward, Nash, Mackenzie and Butler and it’s a pretty good midfield.

Especially considering Meek is a strong ruck, Weddle and Mass let’s say as the wingers too.

The level of development is very high and at the very least is a pretty good midfield.
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Day was playing at top 5 level for the few games he had on the park. The one-two can match it with any midfield, although we obviously lack huge depth right now. Really only Brisbane would worry us when Day is fit. (Next year, Gold Coast, too, and we all know why both teams are stacked).
 
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Dewyyyyy said:
Day and Newcombe are a quality one two combo

You add onto that Ward, Nash, Mackenzie and Butler and it’s a pretty good midfield.

Especially considering Meek is a strong ruck, Weddle and Mass let’s say as the wingers too.

The level of development is very high and at the very least is a pretty good midfield.
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I don’t see how a midfield that’s at best 8th, with arguments for Crows, North, Geelong, Collingwood over it can be considered pretty good.

For what it’s worth here’s the north equivalent:

Sheezel and LDU are a quality one two combo

You add onto that Wardlaw, Powell, Mckercher and Simpkin/Parker and it’s a pretty good midfield.

Especially considering Xerri is a strong ruck, FOS and Stephens let’s say as the wingers too.
 
StackedHunch said:
Day was playing at top 5 level for the few games he had on the park. The one-two can match it with any midfield, although we obnoxious lack huge depth right now. Really only Brisbane would worry us when Day is fit. (Next year, Gold Coast, too, and we all know why both teams are stacked).
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One twos better than that include:
Dogs (Bont and Richards)
Brisbane (Mcgluggage and Neale)
Freo (Serong and Brayshaw)
GC (Rowell and Anderson)
Sydney (Heeney and Gulden)
GWS (Green and Callaghan)
 
Shueygod said:
This is so generous, with a fit day the midfield is still average. Would be behind Freo, Brisbane, GC, GWS, Sydney, Dogs, Port.
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Even without Day we beat the Giants, the Dogs and the Swans.

We were also a bees dick from beating the Suns and Freo away from home.

Brisbane is the juggernaut we don't have an answer for. But that's the same for about sixteen other clubs.
 
Shueygod said:
I don’t see how a midfield that’s at best 8th, with arguments for Crows, North, Geelong, Collingwood over it can be considered pretty good.

For what it’s worth here’s the north equivalent:

Sheezel and LDU are a quality one two combo

You add onto that Wardlaw, Powell, Mckercher and Simpkin/Parker and it’s a pretty good midfield.

Especially considering Xerri is a strong ruck, FOS and Stephens let’s say as the wingers too.
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Crows no
North no

Geelong and Collingwood have pretty good midfields aswell with Smith/Holmes/Worpel and Atkins. NDaicos/JDaicos/DeGoey/Pendlebury etc

Norths only player better than their respective player compared to Hawthorn is Sheezel because he’s a gun. He’s also not played consistent full time mid and moved around a lot in a poor side.

Day hasn’t had consistent time on the park yet, and Newcombe has had to deal with a big load and a lot of tags.

Again Hawthorns midfield is still pretty good when fully fit, the big thing will be staying fit but also development from the youth, which is more likely than not given the trend and the talent.

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Hawthorn have a top defense, and strong forward line so either way they’re going to still be a competitor for the top 4 next year, expected top 8.
 
StackedHunch said:
Day was playing at top 5 level for the few games he had on the park. The one-two can match it with any midfield, although we obnoxious lack huge depth right now. Really only Brisbane would worry us when Day is fit. (Next year, Gold Coast, too, and we all know why both teams are stacked).
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You got that right.
 

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Guardian Hawk said:
Firstly, it's been well documented Essendon were not taking calls or listening to offers.

Secondly, because of the above, Hawthorn had to try and negotiate deals through Zachs agent, which was also shut down.

In the end, Hawthorn had to go public with an offer cos they couldn't get Essendon to partipate in negotiations. Essendons response was that it didn't dignify a response and that they are not trading him.

Essendon didn't ever mention that they would even consider a trade, let alone say what they wanted, until 5 mins left in the trade period.

In those circumstances, it makes no difference how early you go public with you best offer. Trades are supposed to be negotiations and Essendon refused to participate. How anyone can pin the trade falling through on Hawthorn, I have no idea.
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Wow, when you lay it out like that.....it really just seems like hawks should have listened and focussed their efforts elsewhere. No means no after all. Big blunder.
 

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10571z said:
Don’t care how the AFL try to frame it. When you hand out extra picks and push teams back the picks lose value
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Yes I agree with you. However 22 isn’t still a round 1 pick. That’s why I never say picks by round because a a west coast rd 2 is as good as a Brisbane round 3.
But facts are facts, 22 is a round 1 this year.
 
Essendon maybe didn’t make the right choice but I’ll tell you what clubs holding players this year could swing the pendulum back for future negotiations into clubs favour.

These ridiculous long contracts that seemingly mean nothing for clubs need to stop.
 
After sleeping on it, my view remains the same.

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Watching us draft two studs at 10 and 22 and hearing the voice of Essendon fans insist “we had too many picks” as they struggle through another rebuild is going to be pure magic.
 
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