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The gap between the pick we traded and the one we got may be smaller than it looks. The expectation is that at least 3 or 4 bids will be matched in the early stages of the draft - and could be as many as 8.

If some of those picks come from after 13 but before 24, we could end up with something like like pick 20 instead of pick 17. Of course, we could also get pushed back by some of the later bids getting matched. It may be better to look at where the picks are independent of the academy nonsense afterward to evaluate.

If we ended up moving back a small amount and picking up a future second, that seems pretty good. I am a little wary of small moves in the W, though, given we've seen some pretty dramatic dropoffs in talent at varying stages of the drafts. Moving up to get Richards ended up being a very good move given what ended up available at our original picks.

It doesn't seem like we're poised to have a particularly eventful trade period. It may just be nobody consequential is available. I will say that if we don't bring in any ruck help or particularly a key forward, I won't be happy. I'm not going to microwave my membership or anything like that, but I'll be disappointed. I'm hoping we're just cooking up something spicy away from the noses of the journos.
 

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BrutThough said:
Lots of players seem to be on the move so disappointing not to be linked with anyone yet.

But at least we are retaining ours.
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DEADLINE DAY RECAP: Key players find new homes, big deal falls over

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Butterworth requests trade

Sophie Butterworth has requested a trade to St Kilda.
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We're into Sophie Buttersworth from Hawthorn as a proper key forward. Fills a need for sure, just have to wait and see if it works out.
 
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We're into Sophie Buttersworth from Hawthorn as a proper key forward. Fills a need for sure, just have to wait and see if it works out.
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Definitely the type of player we need, even I'd been hoping for more a finished product type who can slot straight in. Big, contested marking key forward with a strong left boot. Butterworth would also know Amber Clarke and Besanko from the Stingrays and would be the sixth former Dandy player on our list.

Hawthorn's demands will be interesting. Butterworth turns 20 in a few days and was pick 45 two years ago. Hasn't exactly set the world on fire statistically. Hard to imagine she's worth anything earlier than the third round - possibly a future pick?

Also, on a completely different note, a very clear brain fart on my part in my post above. GC placing bids won't move our picks up. I'm not sure why I thought they would, but I'm blaming all the evaporating picks in the men's draft. Still, GC have picked up five picks in between our original first pick and our current one, which means 13 is probably ending up at least 18. Pick 24 probably ends up moving back as well.

As bad as the academy system is in the men's, I've got to give the AFL credit: they've somehow managed to come up with an even worse system for the women's comp. I should never have doubted them.
 
Vacuous Space said:
Definitely the type of player we need, even I'd been hoping for more a finished product type who can slot straight in. Big, contested marking key forward with a strong left boot. Butterworth would also know Amber Clarke and Besanko from the Stingrays and would be the sixth former Dandy player on our list.

Hawthorn's demands will be interesting. Butterworth turns 20 in a few days and was pick 45 two years ago. Hasn't exactly set the world on fire statistically. Hard to imagine she's worth anything earlier than the third round - possibly a future pick?

Also, on a completely different note, a very clear brain fart on my part in my post above. GC placing bids won't move our picks up. I'm not sure why I thought they would, but I'm blaming all the evaporating picks in the men's draft. Still, GC have picked up five picks in between our original first pick and our current one, which means 13 is probably ending up at least 18. Pick 24 probably ends up moving back as well.

As bad as the academy system is in the men's, I've got to give the AFL credit: they've somehow managed to come up with an even worse system for the women's comp. I should never have doubted them.
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Yeah I cant imagine she is worth much in trade. Playing 6 mediocre games in 2 years doesnt strike me as worth much. Purely getting her based on positional need and potential.
 


Damn was hoping it fell over as she's been a very integral piece in our defensive line. But hard to judge since alot of personal circumstances influence these W trade requests, good luck to her
 
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Damn was hoping it fell over as she's been a very integral piece in our defensive line. But hard to judge since alot of personal circumstances influence these W trade requests, good luck to her
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I was also hoping this one wouldn't go through. Unless we find a replacement somewhere, it means we're either playing Jakobsson next year or we're playing a smaller backline. Very little defensive depth either way. After Trudgeon, Friend, Watson, Burke, Forbes and Jakobsson I'm not seeing any defensive depth, actually. I wonder if somebody is getting moved.
 

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Very little defensive depth either way.
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Yep definitely a worry - was hoping she'd not go but no doubt got a better offer from the Cats and with only a couple of seasons left and as a new parent she probably wants to do what's best by the family as well. She's only ever missed 1 game in her career (for the birth of her son) - the 16 game gap between her and Ally Anderson is purely down to the number of finals games the Lions have played. Although I still have a little bit of a chip on my shoulder about her for missing that absolute sitter against Collingwood a few years ago running into an open goal no one in sight...we lost the game by a point or so I think!

Anyway all the best Nic...
 
For the next few years most youngsters will be better than older players who haven't been able to play footy all the way through their career. So I'm not too fussed if we go to the draft. And there are still quality players deep in the draft.
 
Stevens out; Butterworth in. Here's my best crack at a R1 team:

B: Paige Trudgeon, Ella Friend
HB: Alice Burke, Serene Watson, Kyla Forbes
C: Nic Barr, Georgia Patrikios, Molly McDonald
HF: Hannah Priest, J'Noemi Anderson, Ash Richards
F: Jesse Wardlaw, Sophie Butterworth
FOLL: Emmelie Fiedler, Tyanna Smith, Jaimee Lambert

INTER: Charlotte Baskaran, Amber Clarke, Alana Gee, Bianca Jakobsson, Liv Vesely

EMERG: Zoe Besanko, Rene Caris, Darcy Guttridge


Really interested to see Butterworth, because there were experienced key forwards available out there for not a heck of a lot. There's still the possibility of a mature-ager through the draft.
 
The Saints acquired Butterworth’s services, as well as the Hawks Pick 87, in exchange for Pick 67 and St Kilda’s future fourth round selection.

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Saint Sophie - Key forward lands at St Kilda

St Kilda has secured its first player acquisition of the 2025 Trade Period, with key forward Sophie Butterworth landing at Moorabbin.
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Paid nothing for her so it's basically a free hit.
 
Retained:
Code: 
Age DoB Height Name Matches played 2025/career Rd1 Rd2 Rd3 Rd4 Rd5 Rd6 Rd7 Rd8 Rd9 R10 R11 R12 FW1

33y 16/05/1992 168cm Hannah Priest      13/69  48  27  40  43  67  44  74  34  36  40  38  45  25
33y 06/11/1992 160cm Jaimee Lambert     11/93  64  58 105  96  91 101  85 108  --  --  73  57  73
32y 16/03/1993 169cm Deanna Jolliffe     0/9   --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --
32y 30/03/1993 174cm Bianca Jacobsson    5/72  --  --  --  24  40  42  30  48  --  --  --  --  --
29y 13/06/1996 168cm Nicola Barr         9/70  --  43  69  45  53  52  38  30  --  --  41  --  45
26y 18/03/1999 185cm Rene Caris          6/30  --  --  --  --  37  44  36  --  --  --  28  27  45
26y 30/10/1999 169cm Darcy Guttridge     6/60  24  --  --  --  --  --  --  28  --  54  26  59  27
26y 06/12/1999 166cm Olivia Vesely       1/41  --  --  53  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --
25y 13/01/2000 185cm Jesse Wardlaw      13/83  67  35  87  34 104  63  92  42  84  54  52  39  64
25y 10/08/2000 180cm Paige Trudgeon     12/44  57  36  45  49  54  15  39  36  71  43  65  --  53
24y 08/03/2001 161cm Nicola Xenos        4/43  --  --  --  --  --  --  54  51  61  48  --  --  --
24y 30/03/2001 169cm Georgia Patrikios  13/48  89  89  50  49  77  88  81  93 113  74  73  63 100
24y 04/05/2001 167cm Molly McDonald      6/55  73  73  42  59  61  14  --  --  --  --  --  --  --
24y 03/11/2001 174cm Serene Watson      13/66  72  64  35  98  89 107  82  65  73  84  61  76  96
23y 05/04/2002 187cm Emmerlie Fiedler    6/6   --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --
23y 03/10/2002 162cm Alice Burke        13/55  38  38  27  42  65  44  57  36  21  54  68  47  82
23y 29/10/2002 167cm Tyanna Smith       13/43  95  91  77 112  90  89 110  79  86  87  67  57  77
22y 22/10/2003 167cm Ashleigh Richards   7/45  54  61  32  53  95  73  97  --  --  --  --  --  --
22y 30/12/2003 175cm Ella Friend        11/44  66  23  37  18  --  --  26  42  43  42  33  21  38
21y 20/04/2004 170cm Alana Gee           5/12  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  43  58  39  70  71
21y 09/12/2004 165cm Charlotte Baskaran 13/38  79  38  48  40  34  50  55  41  45  67  27  39  16
21y 17/12/2004 174cm J'Noemi Anderson   11/30  45  75  68  52  61  49  --  --  34  37  23  56  28
21y 22/12/2004 170cm Amber Clarke       13/42  61  31  48  21  45  26  22  59  37  48  16  39  21
19y 25/05/2006 177cm Zoe Besanko        11/11  39   6  30   6  --  --  13  21  38  24  17  22  29
19y 07/09/2006 168cm Kyla Forbes        11/11  58  61  32  40  42  23  --  --  16  19  13  14  40


Departing:
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Age DoB Height Name Matches played 2025/career Rd1 Rd2 Rd3 Rd4 Rd5 Rd6 Rd7 Rd8 Rd9 R10 R11 R12 FW1

32y 24/03/1993 174cm Nicola Stevens     12/92  49  30  45  --  19  42  26  44  62  38  43  39  62
32y 24/12/1993 165cm Hannah Stuart       8/26  --  --  29  28  35  16  --  --  21  47  28  37  --
31y 09/08/1994 183cm Rebecca Ott        10/30  50  64  57  49  65  26  35  58  44  37  --  --  --
29y 04/08/1996 162cm Natalie Plane       7/57  25  50  --  --  --  --  54  38  50  56  --  42  --
26y 16/08/1999 ???cm Arianna Clarke      7/19  15  18  --  --  --  --  --  17  46  28  17  29  --
21y 02/03/2004 169cm Charlotte Simpson   8/18  --  --  --   0  34  54  52  68   4  --  --  50  33
20y 07/06/2005 176cm Lilu Hung           0/0   --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --

Arriving:
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Age DoB Height Name Matches played 2025/career Rd1 Rd2 Rd3 Rd4 Rd5 Rd6 Rd7 Rd8 Rd9 R10 R11 R12 FW1 SF

20y 11/12/2005 181cm Sophie Butterworth  5/6   --  --  --  26  13   9   5  --  --  --  --  --  --  38

Plus soon we will have more arrivals from the draft (we hold picks #24, #31, #42, #85, #87)
 
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Couple more just now - Ari Clarke and Lilu Hung are also not on the list for next year. They were both late additions so they were just on one year contracts that aren't being renewed I think.
 
Saints2001 said:
Couple more just now - Ari Clarke and Lilu Hung are also not on the list for next year. They were both late additions so they were just on one year contracts that aren't being renewed I think.
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That means we're in a spot where we'll actually use the two 5th round picks (ours and the one we got off Hawthorn in the Butterworth trade). I imagine they'll end up quite a bit earlier than 85 and 87.

I really would have much preferred to used the two list spots we used on Clarke and Hung on some experienced talls. I find the complete lack of urgency of our list management to add rucks and key forwards to our list quite perplexing.
 
Vacuous Space said:
That means we're in a spot where we'll actually use the two 5th round picks (ours and the one we got off Hawthorn in the Butterworth trade). I imagine they'll end up quite a bit earlier than 85 and 87.

I really would have much preferred to used the two list spots we used on Clarke and Hung on some experienced talls. I find the complete lack of urgency of our list management to add rucks and key forwards to our list quite perplexing.
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We have Fiedler returning from injury as a ruck which is pretty much a new recruit

Just signed Butterworth as a key fwd

Agree we might need one more but we’ll hopefully look at SSP for that
 
Fine on Fiedler for next year although considering she came from nowhere (from memory she was a late addition to the squad after not playing a game for Freo - no shame in that being behind the awesome Mim Strom) but yes seems we just neglected to give any decent support to Jesse this season when we had opportunities to top up the squad.
 
Great haul for the Saints

I haven't paid too much attention to the AFLW crop this year but I've done a bit of reading

Carys D'Addario was apparently in contention for the first round and ended up sliding all the way out to pick 61. Obviously this means there is a clear deficiency in her game that clubs were turned off by but can't doubt the fact that she is ready-made for the AFLW as a midfielder who wins clearances and uses the ball well. Seems like a replacement for Charlotte Simpson

Jade McLay is similar to D'Addario in the sense that she is also a ready-made inside mid. But at 177cm, she's previously also played as a ruck, key forward, key back, and midfielder :tearsofjoy: I watched some of her highlights and she looks like the W version of Oliver Greeves from the mens draft with her height and tendency to don't argue

Chelsea Sutton is a mid/fwd who thrives off her defensive pressure but also wins contest and gets forward offensively with her speed. Runs all day with a huge tank. Seems like a replacement for Hannah Stuart

Maya Louvel-Finn is a direct Nic Stevens replacement IMO. Intercept queen with good ball use and tough as nails. Can lock down on an opponent too. Good size at 170cm so will provide aerial presence

Abby Hobson is apparently arguably the best contested-marking player in the pool. At 174cm she might be slightly undersized so without watching her too closely, it sounds like she might be a W version of Cooper Sharman. Very good kick, big tank, strong, high footy IQ. Has the same knocks that Sharman had early in his career with groundballs and agility. Replaces Ott on the list

This is the first draft under new list manager Darius Wyatt and it's clear there is a very clear philosophy: pick players who are physically mature and are ready for AFLW. Each of these players could easily play round 1. Clear emphasis on picking for midfield which is interesting because I thought midfield was the area we were most flush with options this season with so many who could run through

Looking forward to 2026 - this is a very good haul IMO
 

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