Oppo Camp Other Clubs News/General Discussion (Part 2)

[Pragmatic Shill]

Was the Hun. I don’t have a subscription so can’t see the article. Yes, I am aware the Hun is a lot of scuttlebutt. But I think the case is legit.

I'll post the text for you - would be a brave (or very drunk) person to claim the Hun has just written this out of thin air.

Another high-profile Victorian is facing rape charges – and we can’t tell you who it is.

All the Herald Sun can reveal is the man is due to face a County Court trial in July.

He is charged with two counts of rape, one count of sexual assault and one of attempted rape amid claims he attacked a woman in his home in March 2023.
The accused rapist, who has pleaded not guilty, is free to roam the streets on bail.
A suppression order – slapped on his court case when he was charged in August 2023 – prohibits publishing his name, his age and his occupation.

His legal team had sought the gag order on the same basis as convicted rapist Tom Silvagni, claiming mental health grounds.

Like in the Silvagni case, media outlets, including the Herald Sun, tried to fight the order to no avail.

The court ruled that it was necessary to protect the well connected man’s safety.
The ability for some well-known accused people to secure suppression orders on mental health grounds, thus keeping their name out of the spotlight has been heavily scrutinised this week on the back of the Silvagni case.

Silvagni, 23, was jailed on Wednesday for six years and two months after a jury convicted him of two counts of rape following a County Court trial.

He pleaded not guilty and continues to declare his innocence.

His identity was the subject of a publishing ban for 545 days, sparking outrage from the community and political leaders when it was lifted last week and his horrifying crimes – and his dogged efforts to keep them from the public eye – could finally be exposed.

Opposition leader Jess Wilson announced she would conduct a review into suppression orders to tighten up the prospects of rapists and other high-profile perpetrators getting them.

“Victorians deserve an open and transparent court system that puts the interests of victims first,” Ms Wilson said.

“Suppression orders should not be used as a mechanism for offenders to hide from victims, the community or taking responsibility for their actions.”

In sentencing Silvagni on Wednesday, County Court judge Greg Lyon acknowledged the media reporting on the case as “objective”, “fair” and in accordance with the suppression orders.

“The principle of open courts should be permitted to operate as widely as possible,” he said.

 

[BillyElliott]

Was the Hun. I don’t have a subscription so can’t see the article. Yes, I am aware the Hun is a lot of scuttlebutt. But I think the case is legit.

As much as I hate the HS, this is right up their alley. They'd hate having to sit on another big story/controversy.

And I think they were one of the first to publish similar about the Silvalgni's when their suppression order happened.

 

[Jafo]

I'll post the text for you - would be a brave (or very drunk) person to claim the Hun has just written this out of thin air.

Another high-profile Victorian is facing rape charges – and we can’t tell you who it is.

All the Herald Sun can reveal is the man is due to face a County Court trial in July.

He is charged with two counts of rape, one count of sexual assault and one of attempted rape amid claims he attacked a woman in his home in March 2023.
The accused rapist, who has pleaded not guilty, is free to roam the streets on bail.
A suppression order – slapped on his court case when he was charged in August 2023 – prohibits publishing his name, his age and his occupation.

His legal team had sought the gag order on the same basis as convicted rapist Tom Silvagni, claiming mental health grounds.

Like in the Silvagni case, media outlets, including the Herald Sun, tried to fight the order to no avail.

The court ruled that it was necessary to protect the well connected man’s safety.
The ability for some well-known accused people to secure suppression orders on mental health grounds, thus keeping their name out of the spotlight has been heavily scrutinised this week on the back of the Silvagni case.

Silvagni, 23, was jailed on Wednesday for six years and two months after a jury convicted him of two counts of rape following a County Court trial.

He pleaded not guilty and continues to declare his innocence.

His identity was the subject of a publishing ban for 545 days, sparking outrage from the community and political leaders when it was lifted last week and his horrifying crimes – and his dogged efforts to keep them from the public eye – could finally be exposed.

Opposition leader Jess Wilson announced she would conduct a review into suppression orders to tighten up the prospects of rapists and other high-profile perpetrators getting them.

“Victorians deserve an open and transparent court system that puts the interests of victims first,” Ms Wilson said.

“Suppression orders should not be used as a mechanism for offenders to hide from victims, the community or taking responsibility for their actions.”

In sentencing Silvagni on Wednesday, County Court judge Greg Lyon acknowledged the media reporting on the case as “objective”, “fair” and in accordance with the suppression orders.

“The principle of open courts should be permitted to operate as widely as possible,” he said.

Thanks for posting the article. Though I do think people of privilege get to enjoy anonymity for as long as possible. Whilst the “commoner” would be outed in public already. Most likely.

 

[IlovethePies]

I have just one thing to say about the cesspool of the media interacting with an entitled young a***hole who believed that because he has a royalty AFL surname, he has the rights of a king:

Thank God this has absolutely nothing to do with Collingwood.

The Hun can ggf. They are a parasitic scourge on society, revelling in trash like this.

 

[lyfsux]

I have just one thing to say about the cesspool of the media interacting with an entitled young a***hole who believed that because he has a royalty AFL surname, he has the rights of a king:

Thank God this has absolutely nothing to do with Collingwood.

The Hun can ggf. They are a parasitic scourge on society, revelling in trash like this.

you can back it in that if Jack had of sign with Collingwood the headline would've been
"Brother of Collingwood star guilty of rape"

 

[JuniorB]

you can back it in that if Jack had of sign with Collingwood the headline would've been
"Brother of Collingwood star guilty of rape"

The bottom line with Jack, really, was he wanted too much money for a player who's often injured.
And now he's the brother of a convicted rapist, not that it has anything directly to do with him.
However, the media will bring it up the way penguins regurgitate fish, and just as stinky.
I'm glad it will be St Kilda putting out the spot fires.

 

[JuniorB]

Another Christmas themed post, from AFL Memes.

 

[76woodenspooners]

“Suppression orders should not be used as a mechanism for offenders to hide from victims, the community or taking responsibility for their actions.”

Quote from the HeraldSun above is a bit ridiculous …

It’s not about “offenders” at all, it’s about “alleged offenders” which is a different thing. And that’s the point.

We live in a society that has the presumption of innocence. Not sure that anybody really wants that changed.

Sure, we need to protect society while the courts do their thing, but that’s the job of the remand system, not the job of the tabloids.

 

[JuniorB]

Quote from the HeraldSun above is a bit ridiculous …

It’s not about “offenders” at all, it’s about “alleged offenders” which is a different thing. And that’s the point.

We live in a society that has the presumption of innocence. Not sure that anybody really wants that changed.

Sure, we need to protect society while the courts do their thing, but that’s the job of the remand system, not the job of the tabloids.

I think the distinction is that "ordinary" alleged offenders tend to get named when they are charged, not when they are convicted.

 

[JoinDate]

We live in a society that has the presumption of innocence. Not sure that anybody really wants that changed.

We live in a society where the courts have a presumption of innocence. I'd say the societal outlook amongst most is very different.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I think the distinction is that "ordinary" alleged offenders tend to get named when they are charged, not when they are convicted.

Ordinary alleged offenders don’t get their names splashed across the tabloids and trash mags?

In this case Tom was an ordinary alleged offender - it’s his parents and brother who have the profile - his mum relies on her profile for work - and none of them were alleged to have done anything wrong.

 

[76woodenspooners]

We live in a society where the courts have a presumption of innocence. I'd say the societal outlook amongst most is very different.

Sure, it’s easy for people to take presumption of innocence tor granted, and to raise their pitchforks against it …

… until they become the accused.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

We live in a society where the courts have a presumption of innocence. I'd say the societal outlook amongst most is very different.

That's because society can't mind their own effen business.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Anyone know if [PLAYERCARD]jaidyn Stephenson[/PLAYERCARD] is a good shot at making ports list

If he does reckon he makes a good fist of it ?

 

[JoinDate]

Anyone know if jaidyn Stephenson is a good shot at making ports list

If he does reckon he makes a good fist of it ?

It's essentially a free hit for them other than a list spot, no? Port board seem keen on him.

I saw him at Rival Brothers coffee roasters about 2 weeks ago with Georgiades, Ed Richards and a few other young blokes I've never seen. Seemed to be enjoying himself and looked in good shape.

 

[BigVic]

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and happy and safe 2026

 

[TradeDraft]

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and happy and safe 2026

Same to you BigVic

 

[JoinDate]

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and happy and safe 2026

Cheers, knackers.

 

[Horaceg]

Damn, I hate coming onto this thread and not seeing Carlton has filed for bankruptcy or at least deregistered.

Even though it’s not so now, everyone have a great Chrissy and may the New Year be a successful one for all, especially Collingwood supporters.

 

[JuniorB]

Merry Christmas my fellow Magpie tragics.
Here's a little Christmas cheer.

 

[jathanas]

 

[Jafo]

It's essentially a free hit for them other than a list spot, no? Port board seem keen on him.

I saw him at Rival Brothers coffee roasters about 2 weeks ago with Georgiades, Ed Richards and a few other young blokes I've never seen. Seemed to be enjoying himself and looked in good shape.

I thought Jaidyn has already been offered a contract for next year? Or am I reading a really old post.

 

[soreplums]

It's essentially a free hit for them other than a list spot, no? Port board seem keen on him.

I saw him at Rival Brothers coffee roasters about 2 weeks ago with Georgiades, Ed Richards and a few other young blokes I've never seen. Seemed to be enjoying himself and looked in good shape.

If he wasn’t deemed such a tool, I’d have given him another chance.

 

[jmac70]

It's essentially a free hit for them other than a list spot, no? Port board seem keen on him.

I saw him at Rival Brothers coffee roasters about 2 weeks ago with Georgiades, Ed Richards and a few other young blokes I've never seen. Seemed to be enjoying himself and looked in good shape.

Do they serve booze at Rival Brothers?

 

[The Phantom]

It's essentially a free hit for them other than a list spot, no? Port board seem keen on him.

I saw him at Rival Brothers coffee roasters about 2 weeks ago with Georgiades, Ed Richards and a few other young blokes I've never seen. Seemed to be enjoying himself and looked in good shape.

I hope you didn’t leave your tea unattended.