List Mgmt. 2026 List management - pt.1

[stavro#4]

Wilson's manager is obviously shopping him around to get a good deal. Pretty much every club been linked to him now.

Keep building and he'll stay.

I hope he signs soon.

But I’m not confident on Wilson staying at the moment.

 

[gringo2011]

On the subject of Hill, I've mostly been a fan of his and happy he joined, but got annoyed at the loopy kicking.
His kicking this year is flat and fast. It's awesome.
Why/How has that changed suddenly?

I think he was always a good player in a great side but struggled when he has to carry the weight of others. Back as the 6th or 7th best player in the side he has time space and can play to strengths. Possibly some coaching to maximise what he does well too.

 

[gringo2011]

I hope he signs soon.

But I’m not confident on Wilson staying at the moment.

Why not?

 

[thekizzler]

Think you may have a piss fetish

Gotta try everything once, right?

 

[stavro#4]

Why not?

Big money getting put in front of him.

 

[tomjoad]

I remember it all

dwarves, fruit toast, maggots, body language, that picture of dal santo holding his dick

It was a simpler time.
And we were happy because we knew what we were.
Now, we have expectations...and look at what it has done to the world?

 

[stavro#4]

It was a simpler time.
And we were happy because we knew what we were.
Now, we have expectations...and look at what it has done to the world?

Has me thinking we will be the first side in a few years to roll GC in Darwin

 

[tomjoad]

I reckon "knobhead" as an insult doesn't get enough plaudits .... whilst primarily lying on the phonic soft edges of expressed sounds given you can convey it with less tension in the mouth due to it being made up of unaspirated consonants it's still quite cutting and forms quite the picture in one's brain

One may say that it comes on hard after initially being soft in the mouth?

 

[Marlo]

Gotta try everything once, right?

You've gone well past a taste test if you're chasing blokes around bigfooty

 

[gringo2011]

Big money getting put in front of him.

Why don't we just pay up?

 

[stavro#4]

Why don't we just pay up?

Pay everyone gringo.

Pay them whatever they want.

Just because you like them.

 

[gringo2011]

Pay everyone gringo.

Pay them whatever they want.

Just because you like them.

You pay your good youth what the market demands minus a stay at home tax. No point in letting him walk out then paying a fortune to Humphries or Zac Bailey if we can't even hold the basic list together. Good clubs don't lose players that they want to keep. The other guys also have to want to come. Losing promising players doesn't exactly sell the club either.

 

[stavro#4]

You pay your good youth what the market demands minus a stay at home tax. No point in letting him walk out then paying a fortune to Humphries or Zac Bailey if we can't even hold the basic list together. Good clubs don't lose players that they want to keep. The other guys also have to want to come. Losing promising players doesn't exactly sell the club either.

Good list management is maintaining what you have and room to improve what surrounds them with the aim of a flag.

Someone asking for substantially more is a decision that needs to be taken.

Ala the clubs and the boys we signed last year.

 

[austinnn]

The fact is that TDK is taking a huge chunk of cap. So far he's not performing at the standard that his contract would suggests is value to the side would be. Fact. We know how much cap space there is- the AFL sets that. We know that has been reported as TDKs wage and contract length. Fact. Can't see any pants pissing except for your fear of criticism causing you to flood.

This is getting boring arguing with an ignorant toxic optimist who can't handle any criticism of the club or even a hint of it. I like to think that I can use critical thinking and not just hope for the best. You are entitled to do what ever you want just as I'm entitled to say whatever I want no matter how much you dislike it.

Your incessant dull responses are driving me insane now. We might just have to stop doing whatever this shit is.

I'm not sure who's right or wrong, but in terms of TDK earning his salary, I remember us having the same discussion for years about Brad Hill. Moaning about hat a bust he was. Saying that Acres was a lot better.

This is the Brad Hill who is quietly having a year (and possibly much of last year) as what I would describe as a true captain.

TDK is just getting started at St Kilda.

 

[gringo2011]

Good list management is maintaining what you have and room to improve what surrounds them with the aim of a flag.

Someone asking for substantially more is a decision that needs to be taken.

Ala the clubs and the boys we signed last year.

If you have to go and find the equivalent player you will have to pay more in the current market. The market dictates value. We aren't the type of club that has got to a point where players want in for less. You only get there by being in improvement mode. Brisbane built that and now get guys playing for less. Losing our gun kids is exactly the way you go backwards not forwards. This looks like your genius move of dangle Battle.

 

[jwikked]

Mitch Cleary on the latest tradies podcast saying that King is earning $1.5m this year.

But for the rest of his deal he will only see 700-800k per year max.

Still too much.

 

[gringo2011]

I'm not sure who's right or wrong, but in terms of TDK earning his salary, I remember us having the same discussion for years about Brad Hill. Moaning about hat a bust he was. Saying that Acres was a lot better.

This is the Brad Hill who is quietly having a year (and possibly much of last year) as what I would describe as a true captain.

TDK is just getting started at St Kilda.

To be fair Hill never bit us on the artse because we never got enough talent in to stretch the cap. He was a poor choice for how Richo played his footy. Long after his contract ended he's repaying the faith but he certainly wasn't a well planned piece of the premiership puzzle. We should have drafted hard instead.

 

[beside the seaside]

I hope he signs soon.

But I’m not confident on Wilson staying at the moment.

If we rate him then we have to keep him. I would rather lose older guys than kids as good as him.

Obviously at some stage players are going to have to start taking market rate or unders for us to keep them but losing Wilson would be such a backwards move. The guy is the best young runner in the game, losing him would be absolutely insane.

Not sure this is the hill we want to die on.

 

[stavro#4]

If you have to go and find the equivalent player you will have to pay more in the current market. The market dictates value. We aren't the type of club that has got to a point where players want in for less. You only get there by being in improvement mode. Brisbane built that and now get guys playing for less. Losing our gun kids is exactly the way you go backwards not forwards. This looks like your genius move of dangle Battle.

Battle for Tauru and JSOS. Looks a good move by me.

Let’s bitch and moan for another 6 years like you did with Hill.

 

[gringo2011]

If we rate him then we have to keep him. I would rather lose older guys than kids as good as him.

Obviously at some stage players are going to have to start taking market rate or unders for us to keep them but losing Wilson would be such a backwards move. The guy is the best young runner in the game, losing him would be absolutely insane.

Not sure this is the hill we want to die on.

I'd rather one Wilson than all of Butler, Clark, Macrae etc. He'll be a star for 10 years.

 

[gringo2011]

Battle for Tauru and JSOS. Looks a good move by me.

Let’s bitch and moan for another 6 years like you did with Hill.

Getting hold of JSOS has off set the Battle loss but we could have taken Tauru with the pick we had anyway. If we lose Wilson and TDK doesn't come on I'm not going to be the only one bringing it up.

I bitch and moan when we do dumb stuff and will do it until we stop doing it. I'm also quick to praise whenever we do the right thing. I haven't written TDK off anyway. Just pointed out that if it costs Wilson and others it would be an absolute stuff up. Even the most basic person can understand that.

 

[stavro#4]

Getting hold of JSOS has off set the Battle loss but we could have taken Tauru with the pick we had anyway. If we lose Wilson and TDK doesn't come on I'm not going to be the only one bringing it up.

I bitch and moan when we do dumb stuff and will do it until we stop doing it. I'm also quick to praise whenever we do the right thing. I haven't written TDK off anyway. Just pointed out that if it costs Wilson and others it would be an absolute stuff up. Even the most basic person can understand that.

The club isn’t shopping Wilson.

Clubs are coming for him and offering big money.

The kid has to want to stay.

That’s where it sits.

 

[AirWinmar]

Jackson looked like a star from pretty much his first year? Having two rucks maybe looked ordinary but he always played forward when not rucking to a high standard.

Adam Simpson had a segment on rucks funny enough this morning. Jackson is ahead of Gawn. Our rucks are not in the top 12 and even the Hawks with two rucks got a mention for providing the same output as one star ruck. So far we have not got value from our two rucks or even from our individual rucks.

Yet were 4th in centre clearance running a pretty young midfield

 

[beside the seaside]

The club isn’t shopping Wilson.

Clubs are coming for him and offering big money.

The kid has to want to stay.

That’s where it sits.

Why wouldn't he want to stay? Do you really think he wants to move to Adelaide?

His manager is following the Nas playbook which many of them are going to do with us now and make it sound like he's unsure, I'm not sure how we should play it exactly but to lose him would be nuts and most likely we'll have to end up just paying up like we did with Windy, Wilkie, Nas etc.

You just can't lose good young players like him.

 

[Leap of Faith]

This was not the mic drop response u think it is.

What a painful flurry of word salads delivered in your usual condescending tone.

Go on then, u know u want to. Insert the little laughing face. I am on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

This forum is on the up. First we have a discussion around the phonetic qualities of knobhead (prefer co**head myself, even if more crass), muppet and bell end and now we have "a painful flurry of word salads".