Injury Max King's biceps femoris

[Teflon]

Interesting in that article that Hird said part of the approach that worked for him was to drop weight. I'm not sure if King is heavier now, but he's definitely bulkier in the top half of his body.

That’s noticeable isn’t it? Makes you wonder …
Also interesting in that article how Hird was conditioned to get back to play 80% ….almost an understanding of what you can do

Kane Cornes is such a sad Kent.

Whole segment on agenda setters just saying that he should look outside St.Kilda to get his body right

Daisy and Hodgey both said that it’s “just a hammy” - his first one I think

And that all of the injuries over the last 2 years have been compound injuries, and the calf and hammy are a result of the deconditioning from those injuries.


Bet you he called no one, got no information on it and just fired from the hip.

He even said Max did his hammy “kicking at goal”

Just an absolute stain on the media. His stuff on fireball is good but all of these hot takes he does are just garbage.

Never been positive about a player on channel 7 - always just tears people down.

Pathetic dog

What was hilarious was he linked saints saying no to Matthew Lloyd taking King for goal kicking sessions…to King doing a hammy??? ….he then said “King did it kicking for goal…”
Before Hodge corrected him and said “he actually did it leading up to the ball….he didn’t take the shot on goal…”
Whether it’s shock jock journalism or not it’s lazy and it’s completely misleading and irresponsible.
It’s ironic the media often bemoan the failure of clubs around mental illness and how clubs handle it …I’d wager one of the greatest areas in the game at the root cause of mental health issues for players is the media and there is zero accountability.
He’s scum.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Kings contract has numerous triggers

Could you please provide some evidence of this?

 

[jwikked]

Could you please provide some evidence of this?

There's no evidence, because it's not true. He's signed until the end of 2032, doesn't matter how many games he plays.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Kane Cornes is such a sad Kent.

Whole segment on agenda setters just saying that he should look outside St.Kilda to get his body right

Daisy and Hodgey both said that it’s “just a hammy” - his first one I think

And that all of the injuries over the last 2 years have been compound injuries, and the calf and hammy are a result of the deconditioning from those injuries.


Bet you he called no one, got no information on it and just fired from the hip.

He even said Max did his hammy “kicking at goal”

Just an absolute stain on the media. His stuff on fireball is good but all of these hot takes he does are just garbage.

Never been positive about a player on channel 7 - always just tears people down.

Pathetic dog

 

[Saint Luke]

There's no evidence, because it's not true. He's signed until the end of 2032, doesn't matter how many games he plays.

Could you provide some evidence of this?

 

[jwikked]

Could you provide some evidence of this?

King of Moorabbin for eight more years

Max King has inked a fresh eight-year deal, set to call RSEA Park home until at least the end of 2032.

www.saints.com.au

Max King has inked a fresh eight-year deal, set to call RSEA Park home until at least the end of 2032.

 

[Confuscius]

That’s noticeable isn’t it? Makes you wonder …
Also interesting in that article how Hird was conditioned to get back to play 80% ….almost an understanding of what you can do

What was hilarious was he linked saints saying no to Matthew Lloyd taking King for goal kicking sessions…to King doing a hammy??? ….he then said “King did it kicking for goal…”
Before Hodge corrected him and said “he actually did it leading up to the ball….he didn’t take the shot on goal…”
Whether it’s shock jock journalism or not it’s lazy and it’s completely misleading and irresponsible.
It’s ironic the media often bemoan the failure of clubs around mental illness and how clubs handle it …I’d wager one of the greatest areas in the game at the root cause of mental health issues for players is the media and there is zero accountability.
He’s scum.

Same thing happened with Darcy. Pounced at the opportunity to criticise bevo for playing him in the ruck for stints when he did the injury leading up from full forward. He genuinely seems happy that the injuries happen because it gives him another opportunity to rage bait people. He's the lowest of the low

 

[gringo2011]

Same thing happened with Darcy. Pounced at the opportunity to criticise bevo for playing him in the ruck for stints when he did the injury leading up from full forward. He genuinely seems happy that the injuries happen because it gives him another opportunity to rage bait people. He's the lowest of the low

Bad news gets clicks. Criticism, especially unfair criticism with over the top statements get clicks on stories. Advertisers want to have their product with the clicks.

 

[phantom13]

Same thing happened with Darcy. Pounced at the opportunity to criticise bevo for playing him in the ruck for stints when he did the injury leading up from full forward. He genuinely seems happy that the injuries happen because it gives him another opportunity to rage bait people. He's the lowest of the low

To be fair Darcy has a history of knee injuries and is built like a box of matches, playing him in the ruck when you have 8500 tall forward/rucks was ****ing idiotic and deserved to be called out.

Put it this way, if Ross plays Max in a centre square ruck contest, ever, i hope someone punches him in the throat.

 

[CaptainRisky]

He's significantly heavier I would wager. I commented on this after being at the VFL on Saturday, it's a worry after reading that from Hird. May need to drop some of the weight he's put on.

Drop some weight ,,, He is hardly overweight , He doesnt look a whole lot bigger to my eyes

 

[Broski]

Drop some weight ,,, He is hardly overweight , He doesnt look a whole lot bigger to my eyes

He's sizeably bigger now then when he was last playing football at the top level. Maybe I am wrong but he definitely looks bigger in the top half of his body. Here is his profile from 2024 and 2026. Definitely bigger in the face.

 

[jwikked]

He's sizeably bigger now than when he was last playing football at the top level. Maybe I am wrong but he definitely looks bigger in the top half of his body. Here is his profile from 2024 and 2026. Definitely bigger in the face.View attachment 2603196View attachment 2603197

So he should, he was way too skinny to be a key forward, he got bullied and pushed out of contests far too easily

 

[Teflon]

I’m bigger too sadly..

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

There's no evidence, because it's not true. He's signed until the end of 2032, doesn't matter how many games he plays.

It was on the radio and backed up by someone close to the club.

At the time that Mac Andrews re-signed for 9 years they were talking about clubs protecting themselves and the concept of long-term deals that were actually two separate terms. Max & Mac were given as two examples.

I couldn't care less if you or your mate believe it or not.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

King of Moorabbin for eight more years

Max King has inked a fresh eight-year deal, set to call RSEA Park home until at least the end of 2032.

www.saints.com.au

Giant for life: Kelly inks MONSTER contract extension

Josh Kelly has triggered a massive eight-year extension with the Giants

www.afl.com.au

No mention of the trigger that Kelly & the Giants had that was widely spoken about.

It's almost as if you can't believe everything that you read.... like TDK being on $1.8m for 8 years guaranteed.

 

[Teflon]

Correct
It’s not like they’re gonna publicly announce a new signing and then also announce …”the contract also comes with loads of triggers in case either party needs to bail…”

 

[jwikked]

Giant for life: Kelly inks MONSTER contract extension

Josh Kelly has triggered a massive eight-year extension with the Giants

www.afl.com.au

No mention of the trigger that Kelly & the Giants had that was widely spoken about.

It's almost as if you can't believe everything that you read.... like TDK being on $1.8m for 8 years guaranteed.

Yeah, this is a very funny post because that article is about Josh Kelly triggering the rest of that contract lol. He had 2 years with an option for the rest, which he eventually exercised. This was known from when he first re-signed with GWS.

There’s a GIANT in Josh Kelly

Star midfielder and vice-captain Josh Kelly has put pen to paper on a new deal with the GIANTS, keeping him in the orange and charcoal until at least the end of 2021.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

Star midfielder and vice-captain Josh Kelly has put pen to paper on a new deal with the GIANTS, keeping him in the orange and charcoal until at least the end of 2021.

Note the same phrasing as the Max King announcement lol.

 

[jwikked]

It was on the radio and backed up by someone close to the club.

No it wasn’t

At the time that Mac Andrews re-signed for 8 years they were talking about clubs protecting themselves and the concept of long-term deals that were actually two separate terms. Max & Mac were given as two examples.

This is slightly closer to the truth. These long deals are legit between club and player. To the AFL, they’re not seen in the same way. It makes little sense, but the fact is Max is signed until 2032, and there isn’t a games trigger needed for him to reach 2032.

 

[thekizzler]

No it wasn’t


This is slightly closer to the truth. These long deals are legit between club and player. To the AFL, they’re not seen in the same way. It makes little sense, but the fact is Max is signed until 2032, and there isn’t a games trigger needed for him to reach 2032.

I don't know if King has a trigger or not - but what makes you think he doesn't?

I've worked in writing press releases. The wording 'At least' ,as I interpret it, is just general speak to signify that King is here until then but it could be longer.

If there was any kind of contract clauses whatsoever, they would be not mentioned publicly in the signing announcement. If there was a clause to say 2029, the wording wouldn't change.

 

[jwikked]

I don't know if King has a trigger or not - but what makes you think he doesn't?

I've worked in writing press releases. The wording 'At least' ,as I interpret it, is just general speak to signify that King is here until then but it could be longer.

If there was any kind of contract clauses whatsoever, they would be not mentioned publicly in the signing announcement. If there was a clause to say 2029, the wording wouldn't change.

Saying he’ll be there until at least 2032 means it’s not going to be any shorter than that. The Josh Kelly example is a good one. They announced it as being a 2 year deal, with there being an option for Josh to trigger 8 years whenever he wanted. If he wanted.

If max had a 4+4 year deal, it would have been announced as being signed until the end of 2028.

The idea that he has triggers involved to reach 2032 is just a coping mechanism. It’s not true

 

[SainterinSydney]

He's sizeably bigger now then when he was last playing football at the top level. Maybe I am wrong but he definitely looks bigger in the top half of his body. Here is his profile from 2024 and 2026. Definitely bigger in the face.View attachment 2603196View attachment 2603197

 

[thekizzler]

Saying he’ll be there until at least 2032 means it’s not going to be any shorter than that. The Josh Kelly example is a good one. They announced it as being a 2 year deal, with there being an option for Josh to trigger 8 years whenever he wanted. If he wanted.

If max had a 4+4 year deal, it would have been announced as being signed until the end of 2028.

The idea that he has triggers involved to reach 2032 is just a coping mechanism. It’s not true

As I said, I have no idea if there is a trigger.

Just because GWS mentioned a trigger with Kelly, why does that mean St Kilda would with King?

It is not true that contract triggers are often mentioned in signing releases - in fact aside from the Kelly one, I can't recall another I've seen. I'm sure there is the odd one but that doesn't mean anything in relation to King.

If St Kilda did have triggers in King's contract to 2028, it would still most likely say to 2032.

 

[CaptainRisky]

He's sizeably bigger now then when he was last playing football at the top level. Maybe I am wrong but he definitely looks bigger in the top half of his body. Here is his profile from 2024 and 2026. Definitely bigger in the face.View attachment 2603196View attachment 2603197

Well thats it , LOL

Man they are photos with so many variables you can't use that as proof.
I dont doubt he has put on some size since 2024 but it would be minimal , not like its 10kg

 

[gringo2011]

Saying he’ll be there until at least 2032 means it’s not going to be any shorter than that. The Josh Kelly example is a good one. They announced it as being a 2 year deal, with there being an option for Josh to trigger 8 years whenever he wanted. If he wanted.

If max had a 4+4 year deal, it would have been announced as being signed until the end of 2028.

The idea that he has triggers involved to reach 2032 is just a coping mechanism. It’s not true

Kelly only agreed to sign a long contract if they gave him a get out clause. I don't see any relevance to King. To me King is probably on a pretty tight contract with out many clauses.

He's signed a long term deal below what he'd be worth on the open market while injured. We've tried to get him to hedge his bets and get it on out terms. It would have had to be pretty watertight to get him to sign IMO.

I imagine there is a match payment component but I doubt it's a huge amount of the contract or he would have asked for more in the total deal. If he gets back and plays good footy it's going to end up a good deal for us as we've already paid out the fat part of the contract so he'll be on a smaller wage while we need space.

 

[gringo2011]

Well thats it , LOL

Man they are photos with so many variables you can't use that as proof.
I dont doubt he has put on some size since 2024 but it would be minimal , not like its 10kg

You'd be surprised. Turning a bit of body fat to muscle can add 10kgs on a big framed guy without looking like he's increased in bulk. He does look noticeably more solid.