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Tom McCartin is a dud. Sorry to say.

He's not at all IMO. Was AA a couple of seasons back. Hasn't fitted in Nicks' system, but I reckon he could definitely help us in terms of depth and experience in our midfield. Look at how much we got shown up yesterday in the midfield. Absolute capitulation.

Why not? We desperately need another proper inside midfielder. We got absolutely shown up in the midfield yesterday. We rely far too much on Parker and Mills to win the contested footy. He will add depth and experience.

2014 all over again. Absolutely demolished in every single aspect of the game. Yes, Longmire can get us there, but why is it we go into our shells, kick it down the line and fail to bring our pressure from the outset? Go watch the highlights from 2014 and it was a carbon copy of yesterday's...

Bloke is too slow and offers nothing when the ball hits the deck. Sorry, but he's not going to be good enough.

Get Matt Crouch and Lloyd Meek in ASAP. Ruck and an experienced inside mid is exactly what we need.

Sorry to invade your thread. Can I just say, how much do the Victorian media give this bloke an easy ride? Just saw Hinkley's interview on Fox Footy and Dermie, Kingy and Huddo sat there cracking gags with him the whole time and talking about how good of a bloke he was. Ask him some hard...

I've been a staunch supporter of Longmire but my support is wavering significantly. That first half was absolutely diabolical in comparison to the Bulldogs. Not on.

Smith Aliir Lloyd Rampe Johnson McVeigh Heeney Kennedy Cunningham Hewett Franklin Florent Hayward McCartin Ronke FOL: Sinclair Jack Parker I/C: Rohan, Newman, Papley...

Really?? I want to beat these flogs, bad.

I do agree with you. Robinson will go out. If he drops Newman that is a disgrace.

Reckon we'll beat this overrated mob. Hannebery and Rohan back. McVeigh another week under his belt. Why is the hype around Melbourne justified? They haven't beaten one top 8 team all year. We're on the same points (48) whilst having key injuries throughout the year, one of the youngest...

Reid, Melican, Mills, Rohan, Naismith, Hannebery, Jones all missing on the weekend. And all I heard about was how 'brave' Collingwood were. Fair enough, Treloar and De Goey are massive outs. Wells and Elliot haven't played in two years. Reid has been injury prone for years. Dunn, Goldsack...

Yep. So the typical media throng have come out and started their rubbish about our club, how we're finished, how we're too old, how we're gonna fall off the canvas blah blah blah. I've heard this that many times over the years about this club, it's quite frankly hilarious. I am not worried one...

I thought he was almost heading down the Karl path at the logies...

Was definitely under the influence tonight. Hilarious.

Exactly. Of course the Hawthorn players would've been extremely demanding on each other. That's to be expected and that's why they've been so successful. But as you said, never saw Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis etc. ever point the finger and remonstrate with their teammates like Goddard.

That berating style of leadership is gone in modern day football and hopefully in society in general. Berating someone and expecting them to take the advice/criticism on board in that manner will never get the best out of people. Look at the difference between that style of leadership and the...

This guy is a liability now. Below the knees he's a liability, his kicking is sub-par and his decision making under pressure will absolutely haunt us come finals time (if we make it). His closing speed off 5-10 metres of his opponent is being shown up massively. Desperately need to move on...

Sinclair is an absolute DUD. Got pantsed by Jacobs all night.

Heath Grundy should not play another game in 2018. He is finished. Aliir please. Miss Reid and Melican massively.

Buddy has no doubt surpassed Carey.

Watts would be a great get. Don't get sucked into other people's opinions about him. Was playing fantastic footy before he got injured. As a third forward Watts would be an amazing get.

I'm very much looking forward to 2018. Another pre-season into our youngsters, all our players fit and firing for round 1, not going 0-6 and playing an elimination final every week. We can win the flag in 2018. We need to follow the Richmond model. Small pressure forwards which we have in...

Would hate to lose him. But if he hasn't signed yet...more likely then not he is gone.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Looking back I got that comparison very wrong!

Yep good call. He's going to become a genuine gun.

In: Rohan, Aliir Out: Towers, Marsh I still reckon if we beat North this week we can make the eight. I'm very optimistic. Rampe will come back as well and we could go on a big big run. C'mon you bloods.

Not sure where he goes, but Zak Jones will be one of the best players to come out of this draft. Should be a top 10 pick IMO. JimmySwan, Nov 18, 2013 Pumping myself up more :D

I love the look of Zak Jones. Hard at it, good disposal and looks like a potential gun inside midfielder like his brother. Got a bit of toe about him aswell. If there was one player I could liken him too it would be Vlastuin. Would love us to take him at pick 15 if he's still available...