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  1. La Vache

    Jack Billings v Toby McLean

    Both of these young players are clever half forwards with nice skills. Billings looks like he might be a shannon grant clone but is not much of a factor further up the ground yet. McLean not as damaging up forward but shows more potential at stoppages and seems smarter in close. Given fan's...
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    Bob Murphy - 300 games

    At odds with Murphy's omnipresence, I was not even aware of this until today. Another spindly footballer gets to 300. I really like this game milestone mainly because there are no s**t footballers who have made it. So what about Bob's career? I remember vaguely the first time I saw him play...
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    Josh Kennedy is a legendary finals performer.

    44 disposals tonight and utterly dominant. Got rocked by an elbow last week and recovered to be swans best player. Stood up in '14 gf when they got flogged. Excellent in '12 when they won. Abused the freo midfield last year to no avail. 17 finals and averages over 30 disposals a match. And he...
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    Jimmy Bartel - 300 games

    Another big milestone for a champion of the game. Brownlow, Premierships, All-Australian, Norm Smith. To me he has had a fascinating career. Was picked in the famous '01 draft and I remember he was considered a sure-fire 200 gamer at the time and a wonderful leader coming out of the Falcons...
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    Troy Chaplin retires after 215 AFL games.

    http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-19/tiger-defender-troy-chaplin-retires Maligned player but seemingly well-spoken of for his leadership and organisational ability within the four walls of punt road. On the other hand left port on very poor terms culminating in a dig from a former teammate and...
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    Josh Gibson or Sam Fisher. Who has had the better career?

    Two of the great medium defenders of the last decade. Both have fought above their weight at times as undersized KPD but are at their very best in defensive general roles with license to attack the high ball and starting attack from the backline with dash and superior distribution. Gibson is an...
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    Toast Brett Ratten - Thank you.

    The great man has gone above and beyond for our club. Nothing will ever replace what he has lost but from the bottom of my heart I hope that now, when he reflects on this shocking year, he will find himself a glint of sunshine. Ratts was an absolute Carlton champion as a player and has...
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    Toast The Big Rough - 200 games.

    With not much to keep us all occupied for the weekend let us reminisce about our spearhead. At times frustrating but always loved by us supporters. Kicked his first goal vs the Bombers in a narrow loss (the armguard game I think). Has played at CHB, Ruck, Midfield and Forward over his career...
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    Review 2009/10. What happened there? How did we turn it around?

    While we are all in the throes of ecstasy I want to revisit this bizarre period when, after winning a flag, our club followed up with a shocking hangover year and plummeted even further down the mine to be third last with only one win after 7 rounds of 2010. We almost got rolled that following...
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    Review Number of goals conceded by our players.

    It's first week back and not much to do so I thought I would try and spend a couple of hours to see which of our players are the most miserly in not letting their opponents, or the player they are responsible for kick a goal. For midfielders and forwards it is tough so I have tried to gauge...
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    AFL Hall of Fame 2013.

    Interest for this concept seems to be waning every year but I love it. Anyway who do you think will be inducted and who will be elevated to Legend? Always a bit of robust debate about this. Here's some who are eligible for legend - Ablett, Dunstall, Blight, Carey, Lockett, R Hart, Ebert...
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    Rating and ranking stoppages.

    Clearances and stoppages are such an important part of footy now and I find it baffling that there is no access to any meaningful rating system for it. So I'm giving it a go. I don't expect a knock at the door from Champion Data or any clubs as my system is flawed because it's mainly based on my...
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    Toast The Michael Tuck was actually a champion awareness thread

    First off to any poster who thinks Tucky was mostly just a dependable, solid player this is not a dig at you guys because the truth is I only ever knew him, from 1986-91, as that player as well. Sometime tagger, great tackler, always getting his arms in the way of the opponent picking up the...
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    Liam Shiels - Steady as she goes or do we want to see a bit more from him?

    Shiels has been cast in the two roles of accountable midfield accumulator and run-with player and has shown enough in both that we can be pretty confident he is a part of the plan at Hawthorn. But now in his fifth season I think I would like him to see him shake off the foot-soldier tag and...
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    Opinion Lake, Schoenmakers, Gibson, Stratton. What will happen to the fourth man in this list?

    In the context of a best 22 scenario and our first four matches (Geelong, WCE, Collingwood, Fremantle) which of these four will need to be used in a role other than defender? I don't reckon you can play the four of them in a back 6 and we stopped starting 7 back there in '11. Lake would be...
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    Which of these young small forwards is most likely to become a top 25 AFL player?

    It's hard to know how to word these polls but I think there are some very good young footballers currently plying their trade in or around the forward line. I'm interested in who you think is most likely to become a top echelon AFL player, not just a season out of the box but for multiple...
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    Is the rapid improvement of Luke Breust being missed by Hawthorn supporters?

    I am not talking about due recognition necessarily, I think we all acknowledge his top season. But I want to raise this point, that Breust's improvement from early 2011 to now sees him on a steeper curve than any Hawthorn player I've seen for a long time. And when I look to the future for...
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    Toast Brad Sewell is a colossus.

    In the big ones, without fail, he is just magnificent. I don't really know what to say about his performance yesterday except that it was one of the most committed, determined, tough, brilliant displays I have seen in a Hawthorn jumper. His third Q against Adelaide just about got us over the...
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    Prelim final weekend - Your favourite matches/moments/performances

    Many think that this weekend is the best one in footy. I wanted to reminisce a bit about it because it regularly delivers footy's most legendary, storied moments. Essendon v Adelaide, 1993. Wayne Carey v Geelong 94. I count about 10 contested marks Andrew McLeod 7 goals in the 1998...
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    Is the minor premier being shortchanged for ratings?

    Announced today that the winner of Freo and Adelaide will play the Hawks on the Saturday at 5:15 to maximise match-day and television ratings. Now let me begin by saying that in my eyes the issue is not a massive one, and that with the extra weeks rest Hawthorn have a profound advantage already...
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    Ryan O'Keefe - What a player he has been.

    And is. That effort today was as colossal a finals performance as you will see. He is a magnificent player in the best form of his career.
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    Toast Hawthorn - top of the ladder.

    Before the gruelling month ahead I wanted to acknowledge the club for this. Even just the double chance seemed a mile off after the Sydney game and the effort against the Tigers pretty much confirmed that for many. To now have somehow avoided an interstate final and have the opportunity for...
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    Request Relentless pissing and moaning about umpires on the main board and in Gameday threads.

    There is an umpiring/mrp board and people can go crook at the umps on the team boards or Bay 13. Is there any way it can be moderated on the main board and in particular in game threads which are organic and can be a good read but for post after post of - ??? robbed again. Vlad strikes again...
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    Injury Strategies for rest, and fresh legs going into September.

    Maybe the most important strategy in footy now I think. You have your kick-outs, presses, stoppages but ultimately the ability to have a fresh list (in relative terms) entering September will affect how far you go. There will be people on here who will cry out that we have to make it first...
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    Is there a more out of form player than Sydney's Sam Reid?

    There has been a lot of excitement on Bigfooty and in AFL circles about this young fella. He certainly has some attractive footy attributes and I'm not writing him off by any means as he is 20 years old. But he has been atrocious this season, so ordinary that I reckon apart from one decent...
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    What the hell is going on with Brent Stanton?

    I am :eek: at this guy's form. He's always been a decent to good player and he's always had a very good running capacity. He's improved in a few areas since mid 2011 I reckon but watching him today I was appalled to behold that somehow he has developed his main attribute to such an extent...
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    Review Off Season HFC Legends - Gary Buckenara

    I thought I would post a thread every now and then during the summer and tap into the Hawks board memory bank. We have some very knowledgeable "experienced" supporters here and also a younger generation who would not remember much from our great eras. There are a few real champions from the past...
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    Hyper-spending in world football - your views and solutions?

    First off I am not a passionate football man but I do follow the game with interest and have done since the mid 90's when The Premier League highlights were on the ABC I think. I became a Chelsea fan during the Vialli years mainly to wind up my West Ham born/supporting father. I would like to...
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    It's time to acknowledge Matt Priddis.

    There are plenty of midfielders you would pick instead of this guy and he's in no danger of entering any top 50 lists. He will never be an All-Australian and the column inches devoted to him are very minimal especially here in Victoria. I am also aware of some Eagles fans distaste for his wobbly...
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    Bob Probert passes away aged 45

    Reported that he collapsed on his boat while with family. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AigjK4opJW_a4zM9hLefjkt7vLYF?slug=ap-obit-probert Was very much the enforcer of his time when I started following hockey in the early 90's. Feared and skilled player and arguably the best fighter...
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