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  1. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Interesting comment. What type is it that you need?
  2. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Just try to get a grasp on this... do you guy want to just have picks... especially in a ordinary draft id have thought that a mix of player and picks would have been preferred.
  3. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Really? Just listening to David King SEN ( not as smart as he thinks he is but still..) he would trade anyone 26 and over. Then if you start trading your young guys..... wow. Personally , I'd look at Troy Menzel , obvious to come and hopefully play with his brother , but it would depend on...
  4. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Guys , I have just turned on the radio and they are talking about Troy Menzel as trade bate? Is that right? You would have a few clubs picking up the phone id say.
  5. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Hey talk to the Dockers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_O'Reilly_(footballer) ...Carlton agreed to a trade and Fremantle received selections 16 and 46 in return. O'Reilly played 12 games for Carlton in 2000...
  6. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    For years Geelong was a side that couldn't attract players....If a team is at the stage of early list build its only logical that in a limited FA market , that mature FAs will choose the most obvious choice. Would a player like Frawley really choose to go to another club near the bottom? He had...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Not long...months if that... the clubs freaked out I think. Remember that that was the zone era , clubs probably were used to just getting everything on a plate... privileged to play for them etc.
  8. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Was that a trade? Not sure it was.
  9. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Lets start from the players POV , he is denied choice from day 1. If there was no draft would the best players go to the bottom sides? Sometimes , maybe but not as often is happens now. The players put that aside but the introduction of FA is to go someway to reinstate those rights once a player...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    LOL , yeah OK we did a number on you.
  11. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    I cant remember the last time Geelong screwed someone on a deal , we nearly always play fair or perhaps to fair , much to the chagrin of many on our board. But if we finish so low to get a single figure draft pick , I struggle to see how can trade it , we have been starved on picks that low for...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    We have been rebuild since 2011 , this year look particularly ordinary ..injury have accentuated it a bit but if we are to finish lower than we have for a while Id be happy to take the pick and use it. For mine LH would have been someone we look at when it suited all three parties to make it...
  13. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Guys , so have we had any updated info , has he given any indication that LH wants to stay?
  14. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    I think another poster proposed this 200. The only number in the press I have seen is 500. Speculation on our board he may even have a backened deal so at the start it may be less than 500
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    So , at his age and experience a 500 or so for his next contract would be in the zone.
  16. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Not sure where that figure has come from.. The number Geelong has been linked with is 500
  17. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    200 is fair amount. The media had us as offering 500... so you would only offering 300-350? For a player of his age , talent etc. Frawley last year was getting offers 500-700 range. Yes he was a FA , but a similar age and talent range. If Carlton only off him that type of money , it that what he...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    I doubt the Dogs would have a heap of cap room. The last couple of years has seen them bring in Crameri ,and then Boyd and they apparently are still paying some of Griffen. Ess may have cap room but Id think they would be a hard sell to any player with choice till the whole "issue" is behind...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Id say this somewhere close to the mark. If one is building a list from drafted players , its a bit easier to graduate players up as they perform to a higher level. What we have now is some older players still playing well , some younger promising guys ... and gaps in the middle dues to keep in...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 AFL Draft - what type of players should we be looking at & who do we take? (Poll added)

    I do not think the two are related . The FS thing is annoying to some , especially tradition clubs that have never had any luck with it. And I really do not have an issue with clubs pay close to value..... It takes away the discussion years later when some forget the truth of the situation...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 AFL Draft - what type of players should we be looking at & who do we take? (Poll added)

    He should be taken by your club.. it would be wrong for him to play anywhere else. Sometimes you just take the kid.. not sure what he be worth but that name should only be seen in Navy Blue.
  22. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    1981 , certainly conjecture around Henderson... you feel he gone to Geelong? I have to be honest , Im not sure its the right move for us to trade our R1 for a 25 year old player. I certainly understand what you would want for him , not a fire sale obviously .. 25 is not old but not young...
  23. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    I doubt it. For although there are some who be believe in the purity of FA, and no comp should be rewarded...if that were to happen it would have to be balance with restrictions on which team could be gaining the player.. and who knows what else. The comp is essential for bottom sides , perhaps...
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    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Seems reasonable. Not matching FA offers to like of Kreuzer would be an easy why to get some picks. 1 or 2 a year for 3 years is probably need if an accelerated rebuild is to be completed.
  25. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Media get paid to highlight , accentuate and occasionally totally invent things. Certainly think they are used by player reps to get momentum on contracts and payments. Only time will tell if there is anything in this "Clean Out" issue. On specific player movement , it seems the players at every...
  26. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    So no clean out , just normal year to year maintenance of list.. Media is full of it then.
  27. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Not sure what the general consensus is... is there an acceptance that you must trade out like what StK has done , to get some early picks in?
  28. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    You would be in the box seat , he is not a FA as far as Im aware. Would be a decent trade to move him I would have thought.
  29. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Can appreciate that , never nice to read.
  30. Turbocat

    List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

    Not pleasant to read I'm sure. Is he a player that you could see getting a bigger contact to stay , manager talking it up? Or perhaps there is something in him being used to refresh the list
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