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This will be my last post. One of the oldest Zionist apologetic arguments you'll hear is that the Jews were somehow "the original inhabitants" or Palestine and, thereby, Jerusalem. But, historically, the Jews never held Jerusalem for any significant amount of time compared to all the other...

You jump off that fence pretty quickly when you realise Israel believes their security and the oppression of Palestinians are mutually exclusive. You CAN have both, but they don’t believe that. Oppression is due to Israel, not Palestine. Security is controlled by Israel, not by Palestinians...

Sorry, this is such a weak response I hear far too common from people who actually believe they know the full picture and sit on the fence.

Are you an Australian politician by any chance? You sound like one.

Gotta love the old Freudian slip…

What’s your answer to your question? Also, why is it very valid? Don’t mean to be a smartie pants, but you clutter the thread with hypotheticals when you can just get to the point you’re trying to make.

Declassified CIA documents from October 1947. Imperialism at its finest. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78-01617A003000120004-1.pdf

Zero anti-Semitism in my above 3 posts. Here is the difference between Zionism and Judaism.

It’s sickening that it’s allowed to continue to happen. You give the Zionists too much credit by calling it a war zone. It’s just a massacre of innocent people, that’s all it is. The sooner all Zionists are eliminated, the sooner the world lives in peace.

If you listen hard enough, you’ll realise exactly what evil has been at work, and how how long ago it has been at play.

The indigenous people being kicked out of their land to make way for more Europeans. Where have we seen this before?

There’s a difference between war and resistance against occupation. This is a good explanation of that.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-protesters-set-tents-block-humanitarian-aid-entering-gaza https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/newsfeed/2024/2/8/israeli-sniper-kills-palestinian-girl-in-front-of-gaza-hospital

I’m not surprised this is still available

Whilst you speak some shades of truth, this is a very pessimistic, half glass empty view. Does this view, in some ways, a small way to justify that thing should stay the same in Israel because any change could be worse? Not accusing you of anything. Just asking the question. There is history of...

Seriously? People get called out for silly conspiracy theories on here and this is something you want to try and pass off as fact? What a load of crock. How would you know this is what Hamas and Iran does/doesn’t want? Who gives a s**t what Hamas and Iran actually want. It’s what the...

They’ve moved on from the 72 virgins telegram group and created a new one called dead terrorists - This is some of their work. Zionism is a plague on mankind. It is the definition of terrorism.

The people still fixating on Hamas are the weakest of the lot. They’re okay with innocent people dying by using Hamas as the excuse. It’s pathetic. This is happening, and they want to blame Hamas. Weak. Over 35,000 dead, of which 13,642 children have died. Using Hamas as the excuse? Weak!

“But Hamas!” It’s gotten old quick.

It’s really not rocket science, is it? The Zionist sympathisers here will use any means to justify the killing of innocent people. It’s quite sad.

So under no circumstances in life would you consider standing up for yourself? Isn’t that the definition of a coward?

Because these Zionists aren’t real Jews. The real Jews are standing up and telling us Zionism isn’t a representation of Judaism. A Jewish person wouldn’t replicate what the Nazis did.

Is ZEV still defending his mates in the Israeli forces?

It’s very unlike Israel to deny something then later own up to it…

HTW impartial? Massive if true…

Is the crux of your argument that Palestine was never specifically a state? If so, it’s hardly groundbreaking. It’s evident, everywhere, the term Palestine has been used to define this particular stretch of land for a very long time, long before the Ottomans and your ‘European inventions’.

Who are the sympathisers in this thread? What are your examples of it? If you’re going to make these accusations, back it up.

“X must consider the effects of their public comments and actions outside work “and how they reflect on your role as X and on the reputation of the profession” I’m so sick of this BS suppression of opinions on social media. My role/job doesn’t define me as a human being. What I say, shouldn’t...

I know you’re not. I am also providing further holistic context too. Confirmed as Hamas by who? Israel? So they can just kill any Arab and label them as Hamas/terrorist and we go along with it? How does one earn the label of terrorist exactly in here? Refer above. Who proclaimed them as...