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After its clear the AFL tried to deceive ASADA, WADA and ultimately CAS, Gillon must resign from his position as he is unable to provide a stable professional body the clubs need to run the competition. Since Gillon took over, yes in trying circumstances but decisions seem to be inconsistent...

The evidence simply does not look good for the players at all and as a result they were rightly found guilty and suspended. The gentleman suggesting the AFL should allow Jobe to keep his medal, as intelligent as he may be, appears to be just as wilfully ignorant to the threat of drugs in sport...

So many Australian media personalities are making complete fools of themselves on an international stage.

Question for PAP fans Why doesn't the PAFC sue Monfries for fraud for deceiving the club in his medical instead of complaining against Essendon? It is clear from the outset Monfries played just as big of a part in the deception. How long after Essendon came clean did Angus reveal to the club he...

The severe wording of the CAS statement suggests the players have no hope. I just think they are riding on the wave of the 1 panel member.

Hird is just going to protect himself and continue living on that nice river in Egypt. Dank is also in protection mode. Essendon if they have any ounce of integrity (probably answered my own question) should sue Hird for damages for bringing the club into disripute etc, and at the very least...

My reference is based around that a majority of the clubs and the AFL for a long time have run themselves like it was an amateur sport in guise as a professional industry and as such acted like it. The playing side of the game was professional but the running of clubs and the league felt more at...

Amateur hour at the AFL is over!

The good thing about it is they are still young enough to come back and play decent footy in the lower leagues. I hope they are encouraged to do so and use this time away from the game wisely.

I am genuinely surprised Hird is still standing after the breaking news today. Surely they have to get him away from that club to move forward.

I get the passion from EFC supporters for the club but to still argue against evidence if you aren't familiar with TB4 testing, results and even how TB4 occurs naturally in the body is just denial. WADA dont need to create propoganda to win this case. Ask Lance. Was that a witch hunt?

Explain to me how WADA releasing the finding of unnaturally high levels of TB4 were found in two Essendon players are not evidence and just propoganda?

Maybe only tested 2 of the tests so far. 2 from 2 is pretty good

So WADA made up a false positive test for the purposes of propoganda. Did you read your post before you posted it?

The two failed tests prove that TB4 was definitely injected and that's sufficient evidence to assume regardless of whether all the remaining tests are positive or not that at some stage during the injection program TB4 was given to all players. Its unlikely some players decided to state they...

You have no clue what the definition of witch hunt is do you? The only reason Essendon players escaped a soft suspension last time was because the AFL commission wanted a smoking gun before handing down a punishment. Any court in the land would have convicted on the facts presented by ASADA...

Surely Essendon must sack Hird now. That's confirmation. The players surely will not want him around.

Nah I stuffed up. WADA retested frozen samples. However being they were collected back then I would have assumed they would have been tested by ASADA. perhaps they simply didn't look at the TB4 levels.

They did test for it. The problem was they didn't use it be it an oversight or something sinister. Its too late for WADA to do any testing as the TB4 will be long back to normal levels.

Essendon will be liable. I agree the AFL are the employer but Essendon control their players under license. So that would bring the liability exclusively back on Essendon.

The 34 players should all now be finding a high priced lawyer to sue the pants of Essendon, Dank and Hird. Get your insurance to pay that one Hird!

*Sitting patiently with a bag of popcorn waiting on James Hirds excuse or law suit, what ever comes first I guess!* I have no doubt that there was and still is an undercurrent of unwillingness by a lot of people high up in Australia that simply didn't and still do not want an AFL team...

Actually he only had witness testimony from what I hear with Armstrong. However ASADAs case would have won 99% of the time in a criminal court. The AFL threw it out because they have a vested interest. The AFL were never ever the right body to hear the case because they simply aren't mentally...

Anyways I don't think it matters because of all the evidence of Essendon purchasing TB4 and it being delivered in huge quantities to the club. I don't think supplying a single document that says one drug of the cocktail they took is a sufficient argument. The reality is if the club gave them all...

The reality is they could of pleaded guilty and taken an offer and missed about 8 weeks of footy 2 years ago. I am also under the impression, some players were wanting to take their suspensions already but received advice otherwise. I don't think the people advising the club and players counted...

Its the use of the term 'its a fact' when asked about whether ASADA had the document and destroyed it.

Where is Essendons copy? I think you missed the point. Hird played this whole drama out in the media in 2013 and 2014 yet instead of producing the documents that cleared Essendon, apparently gave ASADA the only copy in the world without giving the media a copy or keeping one for the club for a...

Not to the same extent. We all said Trigglett was stupid. We accepted we did wrong and self reported and opened our books up to be forensically checked. however we argued against the severity of the penalty as being too harsh. Theres a difference. We didn't bow down to Trigg and hail the...

But you cant defend the stupid......oh wait, apparently you can. Just odd only Essendon have tried.

Then why hasn't Essendon produced a copy. Forensically check the computer. The reality is if there was such a document Essendon would have publicly declared this document and shown every media outlet on their way down to ASADAs offices. Little would have been like a little boy with a lollypop...