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Truly depressing.

Fitzy makes a great point. https://archive.is/WSCMs

Aflpa showing itself to be a sly actor. Being careful with the words, but misleading with the intent. As the IDP covers drug usage that can also be penalised under the wada code.

Thought this board needed a thread to delve into some of the issues. This has really escalated from the initial ADRVs for coke as a PED, discovered after a failed test in Round 23, to new ADRVs for trafficking, one of which is alleged to have occurred on the day of a finals game on the 22nd of...

Just those two?

Toby, Jake, Tyrone, Justin, Ben, Dusty's dad, Dusty and Swanny looking Dusty... Balmey, funny how success follows him.

I don't actually disagree with you but should Joel Smith get 4 years?

The answer is no. There's enough pressure on AFL coaches already, without having to bear the extra pressure someone with his history would bring. It might start as a redemption story, but could end in disaster.

Is there a "Vainglorious re-opening of old wounds" thread to put this into? https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sheedy-takes-aim-at-afl-supplements-saga-mismanaged-at-every-level-20220606-p5ario.html

Can you give me a pay wall busting summary please?

Chief Please, end this. Think of the children.gif

Legal in some places for recreational use, but banned on game day as a ped. I don't know this as a fact, but I highly doubt athletes using it to cheat are sitting round a hookah, lost in obscure Pink Floyd experimental albums. They would use very small, concentrated amounts to relax and...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/why-the-tokyo-games-do-nothing-to-address-russian-doping-20210805-p58fzs.html Russia, China, USA, Australia. I don't believe any of it anymore. I sit and watch the Olympics like I might watch a soap opera.

blackcat Still waiting for the triangulation. Lay it out in simple terms for me, I am slow on the uptake.

Sorry, I don't see a link between them other than they're three pretty good ex Aussie Rules footballers.

Easy for Blackcat's favourite Soccer Mom's to say Reiterer should be the national hero, not the athletes who compete dirty. But it's actually our simple wish as fans to be entertained by the spectacle, buy into the heroic stories, and never think too long and hard about the price the athletes...

Irrelevant which club the player plays for. The delays are regrettable, I don't disagree. To be fair to Simpson, I only saw the headline of what he said so there may be more to his statement, but I constantly see the comments that SIA are taking forever, with the implication they are...

Simpson frustrated with it taking 15 months to be heard. Just because he's your special player Adam, doesn't mean his case gets heard any quicker. The implication is it's fat, lazy public servants lying around, doing nothing. Or shuffling papers from one pile to another. The law does and...

Not even called ASADA anymore? If you know anything about the public service, and I assume that they are, you will know that there will be good people, under-resourced and underpaid doing their best through mountains of regulations, torrents of ignorant criticism, and political masters swaying...

Not sure but I love the retrospective penalties and long term sample storage. Incredible to read the story of how they are attacking the dopers. Like all crime, we're never free from it, but we must never give in trying. At Blackcat, they might all be doing it, but eventually some are caught.

Why is the testing of stored samples limited by time? I understand that there might be technical reasons why, for example the samples may lose integrity naturally over the period so results become unreliable. And there might be financial reasons, as it can't be cheap to maintain the samples...

Sweet, sweet memories. Thanks for being that old codger who cannot move on. Mexico, I hear you calling.

I'll say Alan Turner. Forgettable opening bat, but destroyed Thommo's shoulder which devastated me

Yeah, I believe it. why can't we have both.gif

Finally worked out why this crap has reared its wart covered conspiracy head again: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/06/brazil-flat-earth-conference-terra-plana

The old "we can't have been doping because we were s**t" addendum. Periodically gets rolled out. Just more irrelevance.

But, but look over there at this irrelevant misinformation. But, but look over here at this irrelevant tidbit. Where is the paper work? Why didn't the club take people to court to get it?

This dates from before New Mexico joined the Union. Certainly clears up the Mexico vs New Mexico misunderstanding.

I'd only want to hear if it was redaction free. Someone who needs to cleanse their soul maybe? Just couldn't stand listening to any more self-justifying, obfuscating blather.

No. Might take quite a while for it all to come out.