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Good sign I think. Larger lists you would re-rookie him. I think Honey went past him while he was out injured, poor timing for Gibbo. Doubt he will get picked up by anybody else.

Always handy having a few good midfielders.. by the end of the year if Kreuzer didn't get the clearance we barely won one. Well deserved though by Patty close call could have gone either way.

He has to not be in the team. I thought Duncan was extremely unlucky to miss. In my mock team I had him in the last bench spot.

Good one GUMBLETRON ya knob maybe look at your next injection program #nottheplayersfault

Fair to say Kreuzer and McEvoy was a draw. Would probably both feature in the teams best players

Should we just ignore his last two stinkers??

Bullshit he did. He smashed Gawn 2nd time round.

Laird Rance Jetta Hibberd Hurley Howe Kelly Dangerfield shiel Zorko Walker Franklin Gray Daniher Betts Kreuzer Mitchell Martin Docherty Oliver Yeo Parker/Sloane/Duncan *If Kennedy can kick a couple more bags to finish the year off he is in. I'm probably judging Docherty to harshly but...

Don't know if you watched the game but from the eye it certainly looked like Kreuzer had the ascendancy in the ruck (more impactful taps) he didn't accumulate the way Martin does he got them at the ruck contest... Kreuzer had 17 disposals 15 contested with 7 tackles and 5 clearances, he smashed...

Kreuzer has been the most consistant ruck this year, for the last few weeks the discussion has been over Ryder and Kreuzer. Now suddenly it is a Jacobs and Kreuzer debat. Kreuz doesn't get the accolades in the media, his game vs Essendon this week was right up there with Jacobs so dunno how...

It wasn't, probably wasn't in his best 10 games for the year, yet still smashed his opponent (you'd hope he would against roughead) and was in Carltons best players (also not saying much) his body of work this year is amazing not just beating the best ruckman in competition when up against them...

The big tracker just clears the way, in previous years I'd be at the game and thought Kruezer has played really well but only had the 9 possies. It's all the other stuff he does, very selfless player. Now he is getting his possession count up and he is playing with a lot more confidence...

Kruezer rucked against Gawn and was one of the best on ground. I'd say Kruezer has consistently beaten his opponent more then Ryder. R I saw the second half, played well but didn't verse much.

Two horse race for the rucks now. Will be good to see Ryder against Gawn in a couple of weeks. Kruez and Ryder both seem to be knocking off the best rucks week by week. IMO Kruez has been a bit more convincing in some of his one on one battles but I am very biased to the big fella.

Why stupid? You have to be the standout ruckman for that round. He could be second or third best most rounds, wouldn't count that against him for a year long award though as it is a weekly team picked by who knows who.

Bontempelli?? I wouldn't of thought he'd be close. Media love him but a lot ahead of him IMO.

Pfft... Liam Jones won't make AA. Fantastic to see him turn his career around

Liam Jones doesn't flop

Agree, get on the 30 possession markets at the betting agencies.

My bad

What is the point of your post? That is what I was saying about the poster that suggesting because none of stringer, gunston ect were in form so you couldn't pick them as a third tall so he was saying he would have four smalls instead. I'm saying you can have daniher, buddy and cameron in the...

To be a third tall in the AA team you don't have to be a third tall of your particular team. Pretty unbalanced team IMO, to many attacking hbf's plus don't need Garlett, Betts and Green in the same team. Can put Cameron on a flank and get another tall in plus a good one on one defender.

Yeah I'm saying that is the only game in the first few rounds he didn't play the way he is now whether through injury or not. He has been super consistant all season this isn't just a "purple" patch.

You're clearly just guessing about Kruezer. Witts beat him at Etihad in the first few rounds other than that he started year off really well. Just with all players that haven't made AA before takes time to be recognised. But Grundy has had a pretty good year also.

Did you watch the game? He got 1 more hitout... pfft. Smashed him all day. Casboult held his own too. Grundy is a good young player but kruez beat him hands down that day.

Kruezer smashed him

Carlisle Cola wasn't great in the first 4-5 rounds. Has gotten better as the year has gone on as expected. I wouldn't think he'd be in the squad ATM but has now laid solid foundations so if keeps improving he certainly could be by years end.

I wouldn't be leaving the Giants if I was Kelly, was just in reference to North

Might want to play in front of a crowd

Rance is a gun and everyone is acknoledging that, opposing team supports are taking umbrage to the fact Tiger supporters believe he is some saint like FB that never scrags and is the best of all time.