Fun so far 
-
Mobile App Discontinued
Due to a number of factors, support for the current BigFooty mobile app has been discontinued. Your BigFooty login will no longer work on the Tapatalk or the BigFooty App - which is based on Tapatalk.
Apologies for any inconvenience. We will try to find a replacement.
2013 MotoGP
- Thread starter DREAM TEAM BUFF
- Start date
- Tagged users None
🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.
- Oct 14, 2011
- 9,668
- 13,508
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Couple dickish moves from Lorenzo, this ad break better not be long 
Fantastic effort by Marquez to win the Moto GP Championship in his rookie year.
Disappointed for Jorge though. He'll be back.
Disappointed for Jorge though. He'll be back.
I like that trophy the Moto GP champ gets
Log in to remove this Banner Ad
- Jan 9, 2004
- 7,576
- 5,835
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Kawasaki Racing, Falcons, Pelicans
Wow. Just wow.
What an incredible night of racing. The Moto3 showdown lived up to the hype, the only disappointment being Salom crashing so it was 'only' a two rider battle to the flag. Would've got great odds on Vinales winning the title after Phillip Island but that's the beauty of racing, it ain't over til you've crossed the line! The sportsmanship of the three title protagonists after the race was brilliant. Salom and Rins had every reason to mope around, shattered at missing the title but their congratulations of Maverick was top notch. Folger rode a great race, staying close enough to pounce but respectfully allowing the contenders to play out the title and took his opportunity on the line when the race was decided. Miller rode great, just a shame he couldn't make it to the end. He'll be happy to test the KTM (and Arthur Sissis has signed to race for Mahindra next year). Oh yeah, and Ana Carasco finishing 8th was super. Hopefully she has Vinales factory bike next year, she would get some very strong results then.
The Moto2 race was as strung out as Moto2 gets. Espargaro did what he occasionally does - throws away a strong lead. Terol rode a great race, Torres too. Corsi was unlucky to be pipped by Zarco and West rode an excellent fighting race from 21st to 8th. If only he could qualify well. The fill in commentator for the Moto2 race when Gavin Emmett had other duties was terrible. Constantly got names wrong and didn't sound like he even watching the race in real time.
The MotoGP race saw the return of 250cc Lorenzo! Super-aggressive and not afraid to battering-ram his opponents, his racecraft was perfect. Unfortunately for him there just wasn't enough fast guys to help him out and Marquez was too smart, kept a level head with his eyes on winning the war and not the battle. The first third of the race was as exciting as MotoGP can get and probably doubled the race lead change count for the season. Pedrosa was pretty unlucky, probably had the pace to give Lorenzo a run but getting nudged off the track killed his opportunity. But Marquez needed little luck in becoming the world champion and to say he's thoroughly deserving is a massive understatement. Here's some records he's managed to set on the way to becoming an incredible rookie MotoGP world champ:
• Marquez is the first Rookie to win the premier-class world title since Kenny Roberts became 500cc world champion in 1978.
• At the age of 20 years 266 days Marquez is the youngest rider to win the premier-class world title, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years 258 days old when he won the 500cc title in 1983 riding a Honda.
• Marquez is just the fourth rider in the 65 years history of grand prix racing to win world titles in three different categories, along with: Mike Hailwood, Phil Read and Valentino Rossi.
-- Records set in 2013 on way to winning world title:
• At the opening race of the year in Qatar he became the fourth youngest rider of all-time to finish on the podium in the premier-class of Grand Prix racing after Randy Mamola, Eduardo Salatino and Norick Abe.
• At the first race of the year, Marquez set a new record for youngest rider ever to take the fastest lap of the race in the premier-class at the age of 20 years 49 days. The previous record holder was Freddie Spencer who was 20 years 161 days old when he had his first race fastest lap in the 500cc class at Misano in 1982.
• His win at the Grand Prix of Americas at the age of just 20 years 63 days, made him the youngest ever rider to win a premier-class grand prix, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 20 years 196 days when he won the Belgium 500cc GP at Spa-Francorchamps in 1982.
• Qualifying on pole position in Austin at the age of 20 years and 62 days made Marquez the youngest ever rider to qualify on pole in the premier-class, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 20 years and 153 days when he qualified on pole for the first time in the 500cc class at Jarama in 1982.
• The victory in Austin also made Marquez the youngest ever rider in the 65 year history of World Championship Grand Prix racing to have won in three different classes, taking the record from his team-mate Dani Pedrosa who achieved this at the age of 20 years 227 days when he won in China in 2006.
• Marquez is the first rider to have won in either their first or second start in the premier-class for 15 years, since Max Biaggi won on his 500cc debut at Suzuka in 1998.
• He is the first rider since Jorge Lorenzo in 2008 to finish on the podium in his first two races in the premier-class.
• After podium finishes at the first two races, Marquez had joint leadership of the championship classification with Jorge Lorenzo and is the youngest rider ever to lead the premier-c lass championship, taking the record from Jorge Lorenzo who headed the championship standings after winning at Estoril in 2008 at the age of 20 years 345 days.
• The win in Austin also gave Marquez the record of being the youngest ever rider to take back-to-back podium finishes in the premier-class, taking the record from Randy Mamola who finished on the podium in Spain and then France in 1980 at the age of 20 years 197 days.
• At the Spanish Grand Prix, Marc Marquez became at the age of 20 years 77 days, the youngest rider to finish on the podium at three successive premier-class GP races, taking the record from Jorge Lorenzo who was 20 years 345 days old when he has his third successive podium in 2008.
• At the French Grand Prix he became only the second rider to finish on the podium in his first four races in the premier-class; the other rider to have achieved this is Max Biaggi in 1998.
• The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win back-to-back races in the premier-class of grand prix racing at the age of 20 years 154 days, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years 104 days old when he won in South Africa and France in 1983 riding a Honda.
• His wins at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca also made Marquez the first rookie in the premier-class to win back-to-back races since Kenny Roberts in Austria and France in 1978.
• His win at Indianapolis made Marquez only the second Rookie ever in the premier-class to win three successive GP races; the other is Kenny Roberts who won in Austria, France and Italy in 1978.
• The victories by Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca and Indianapolis give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win three successive races in the premier-class of grand prix racing at the age of 20 years 182 days, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years 125 days old when he won in South Africa, France and Italy in 1983.
• His win at the Czech GP gave Marquez the record of being the first Rookie ever in the premier-class to win four successive GP races.
• His win at Brno was the fifth win of the year – the greatest number of wins ever in the premier-class by a Rookie.
• The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca, Indianapolis and Brno give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win four successive races in the premier-class of grand prix racing at the age of 20 years 189 days, a record previously held since 1962 by Mike Hailwood at the age of 22 years 139 days.
• Marquez has finished in the top three sixteen times in 2013 - the greatest number of podium finishes ever by a Rookie in the premier-class.
• He has qualified on pole nine times in 2013 – the greatest number of pole positions ever by a Rookie in the premier-class.
• His points’ total of 334 is the greatest number of points ever achieved in a Rookie season in the premier-class.
Pretty handy huh?
Finally, the big news of the week that didn't involve the title chases is the split of Valentino Rossi from his crew chief Jeremy Burgess after 14 years. I thought it was handled really well with respect and class - from both sides. This is the right move for Rossi. After his two failed seasons at Ducati, the blame for his reduced performance was largely placed on the bike. With his move to Yamaha this year and Lorenzo finishing 4 points short of the championship, the machinery is no longer an excuse. The only two variables left are the rider or the crew. So he has made the move that few would believe will make the difference from "next best" back to a contender. Next year will prove once and for all where his current pace is at and whoever takes over as his chief mechanic has some enormous shoes to fill.
All as relevant as Marquez being only technically a rookie because he was already a 2-time world champion with 5 years prior experience on the grand prix scene.
What an incredible night of racing. The Moto3 showdown lived up to the hype, the only disappointment being Salom crashing so it was 'only' a two rider battle to the flag. Would've got great odds on Vinales winning the title after Phillip Island but that's the beauty of racing, it ain't over til you've crossed the line! The sportsmanship of the three title protagonists after the race was brilliant. Salom and Rins had every reason to mope around, shattered at missing the title but their congratulations of Maverick was top notch. Folger rode a great race, staying close enough to pounce but respectfully allowing the contenders to play out the title and took his opportunity on the line when the race was decided. Miller rode great, just a shame he couldn't make it to the end. He'll be happy to test the KTM (and Arthur Sissis has signed to race for Mahindra next year). Oh yeah, and Ana Carasco finishing 8th was super. Hopefully she has Vinales factory bike next year, she would get some very strong results then.
The Moto2 race was as strung out as Moto2 gets. Espargaro did what he occasionally does - throws away a strong lead. Terol rode a great race, Torres too. Corsi was unlucky to be pipped by Zarco and West rode an excellent fighting race from 21st to 8th. If only he could qualify well. The fill in commentator for the Moto2 race when Gavin Emmett had other duties was terrible. Constantly got names wrong and didn't sound like he even watching the race in real time.
The MotoGP race saw the return of 250cc Lorenzo! Super-aggressive and not afraid to battering-ram his opponents, his racecraft was perfect. Unfortunately for him there just wasn't enough fast guys to help him out and Marquez was too smart, kept a level head with his eyes on winning the war and not the battle. The first third of the race was as exciting as MotoGP can get and probably doubled the race lead change count for the season. Pedrosa was pretty unlucky, probably had the pace to give Lorenzo a run but getting nudged off the track killed his opportunity. But Marquez needed little luck in becoming the world champion and to say he's thoroughly deserving is a massive understatement. Here's some records he's managed to set on the way to becoming an incredible rookie MotoGP world champ:
• Marquez is the first Rookie to win the premier-class world title since Kenny Roberts became 500cc world champion in 1978.
• At the age of 20 years 266 days Marquez is the youngest rider to win the premier-class world title, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years 258 days old when he won the 500cc title in 1983 riding a Honda.
• Marquez is just the fourth rider in the 65 years history of grand prix racing to win world titles in three different categories, along with: Mike Hailwood, Phil Read and Valentino Rossi.
-- Records set in 2013 on way to winning world title:
• At the opening race of the year in Qatar he became the fourth youngest rider of all-time to finish on the podium in the premier-class of Grand Prix racing after Randy Mamola, Eduardo Salatino and Norick Abe.
• At the first race of the year, Marquez set a new record for youngest rider ever to take the fastest lap of the race in the premier-class at the age of 20 years 49 days. The previous record holder was Freddie Spencer who was 20 years 161 days old when he had his first race fastest lap in the 500cc class at Misano in 1982.
• His win at the Grand Prix of Americas at the age of just 20 years 63 days, made him the youngest ever rider to win a premier-class grand prix, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 20 years 196 days when he won the Belgium 500cc GP at Spa-Francorchamps in 1982.
• Qualifying on pole position in Austin at the age of 20 years and 62 days made Marquez the youngest ever rider to qualify on pole in the premier-class, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 20 years and 153 days when he qualified on pole for the first time in the 500cc class at Jarama in 1982.
• The victory in Austin also made Marquez the youngest ever rider in the 65 year history of World Championship Grand Prix racing to have won in three different classes, taking the record from his team-mate Dani Pedrosa who achieved this at the age of 20 years 227 days when he won in China in 2006.
• Marquez is the first rider to have won in either their first or second start in the premier-class for 15 years, since Max Biaggi won on his 500cc debut at Suzuka in 1998.
• He is the first rider since Jorge Lorenzo in 2008 to finish on the podium in his first two races in the premier-class.
• After podium finishes at the first two races, Marquez had joint leadership of the championship classification with Jorge Lorenzo and is the youngest rider ever to lead the premier-c lass championship, taking the record from Jorge Lorenzo who headed the championship standings after winning at Estoril in 2008 at the age of 20 years 345 days.
• The win in Austin also gave Marquez the record of being the youngest ever rider to take back-to-back podium finishes in the premier-class, taking the record from Randy Mamola who finished on the podium in Spain and then France in 1980 at the age of 20 years 197 days.
• At the Spanish Grand Prix, Marc Marquez became at the age of 20 years 77 days, the youngest rider to finish on the podium at three successive premier-class GP races, taking the record from Jorge Lorenzo who was 20 years 345 days old when he has his third successive podium in 2008.
• At the French Grand Prix he became only the second rider to finish on the podium in his first four races in the premier-class; the other rider to have achieved this is Max Biaggi in 1998.
• The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win back-to-back races in the premier-class of grand prix racing at the age of 20 years 154 days, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years 104 days old when he won in South Africa and France in 1983 riding a Honda.
• His wins at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca also made Marquez the first rookie in the premier-class to win back-to-back races since Kenny Roberts in Austria and France in 1978.
• His win at Indianapolis made Marquez only the second Rookie ever in the premier-class to win three successive GP races; the other is Kenny Roberts who won in Austria, France and Italy in 1978.
• The victories by Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca and Indianapolis give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win three successive races in the premier-class of grand prix racing at the age of 20 years 182 days, taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years 125 days old when he won in South Africa, France and Italy in 1983.
• His win at the Czech GP gave Marquez the record of being the first Rookie ever in the premier-class to win four successive GP races.
• His win at Brno was the fifth win of the year – the greatest number of wins ever in the premier-class by a Rookie.
• The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca, Indianapolis and Brno give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win four successive races in the premier-class of grand prix racing at the age of 20 years 189 days, a record previously held since 1962 by Mike Hailwood at the age of 22 years 139 days.
• Marquez has finished in the top three sixteen times in 2013 - the greatest number of podium finishes ever by a Rookie in the premier-class.
• He has qualified on pole nine times in 2013 – the greatest number of pole positions ever by a Rookie in the premier-class.
• His points’ total of 334 is the greatest number of points ever achieved in a Rookie season in the premier-class.
Pretty handy huh?
Finally, the big news of the week that didn't involve the title chases is the split of Valentino Rossi from his crew chief Jeremy Burgess after 14 years. I thought it was handled really well with respect and class - from both sides. This is the right move for Rossi. After his two failed seasons at Ducati, the blame for his reduced performance was largely placed on the bike. With his move to Yamaha this year and Lorenzo finishing 4 points short of the championship, the machinery is no longer an excuse. The only two variables left are the rider or the crew. So he has made the move that few would believe will make the difference from "next best" back to a contender. Next year will prove once and for all where his current pace is at and whoever takes over as his chief mechanic has some enormous shoes to fill.
All as relevant as Marquez being only technically a rookie because he was already a 2-time world champion with 5 years prior experience on the grand prix scene.
Alright man.
Marquez is in his first year on big bikes. He's a rookie. The small/medium bike class is not rated as "real" WC. Hence, you have to think for a split second "How can Pedrosa be considered a WC?" When he gets mentioned as one on the coverage.
Roberts had moved to an inferior competition/industry/scene.
- Thread starter
- #282
Best season of Moto 3
- Jan 9, 2004
- 7,576
- 5,835
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Kawasaki Racing, Falcons, Pelicans
You are being disrespectful. Angel Nieto, Aspar Martinez, etc are seen as greats of the motorcycle racing world and the only ever won in the tiddler classes. No one says Rossi is a 9 time world champ but two of them don't really count because they were lower classes.
You are right, it was Marquez first season on big bikes. He is a rookie. It was Kenny's first season of world championship racing. He was a rookie. Roberts might have had experience on the big bikes but he had to race tracks he'd never seen and learn to travel europe dealing with cultures he'd never experienced. Marquez had 5 previous seasons on the grand prix circuit building to this year. He knew the tracks, travel, the team and he picked up how to ride the bike stunningly quickly. All I am saying is that neither of them were Mat Mladin style noobs but both were rookie winners.
Winter testing is already underway with Lorenzo unsurprisingly fastest with Rossi only a tenth behind. Rossi new crew chief is Silvano Gilbusera who was involved with Yamaha in WSB. Marquez had a well earned day off, Pedrosa too. Crutchlow started on the Ducati well, only a tenth behind Dovizioso but obviously still well off front running pace. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the production Honda and customer Yamaha compare to the Aprilia ART bike, especially in the hands of Hayden. Hopefully they're more competitive than the failde CRT concept has been.
- Jan 9, 2004
- 7,576
- 5,835
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Kawasaki Racing, Falcons, Pelicans
Former 125 and 250 GP race winner Doriano Romboni was killed on the weekend in practice for a Marco Simoncelli tribute supermoto race. RIP.
RIP.
Well that just great, isn't it? I remember him, he was good during the early 90s,w ithout riding for the strongest teams. I also remember him getting a 500 podium on a 400 Aprillia. Maybe the only guy to get a podium on that bike, if not the first?
- Sep 22, 2000
- 62,351
- 41,711
- AFL Club
- Geelong
- Other Teams
- Ford
Former 125 and 250 GP race winner Doriano Romboni was killed on the weekend in practice for a Marco Simoncelli tribute supermoto race.
Irony #2 for the weekend ?
Him & Paul Walker
- Thread starter
- #287
RIP Doriano Romboni
- Jan 9, 2004
- 7,576
- 5,835
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Kawasaki Racing, Falcons, Pelicans
- Thread starter
- #289
So true
- Jan 9, 2004
- 7,576
- 5,835
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Kawasaki Racing, Falcons, Pelicans
In happier news, reports are saying that the factory Yamaha team will have Adidas sponsorship for 2014 and 15. It's a bit vague at the moment as to whether it is as title sponsor or a bit sponsor.
In other less cool news, Ant West has been stripped of all his results for the last 18 months due to the "doping" thing he was found guilty of from a can of energy drink he had. Must be a good feeling to have worked the last 2 years for nothing...
In other less cool news, Ant West has been stripped of all his results for the last 18 months due to the "doping" thing he was found guilty of from a can of energy drink he had. Must be a good feeling to have worked the last 2 years for nothing...
- Thread starter
- #291
Was ASADA involved with this ?
- Jan 9, 2004
- 7,576
- 5,835
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Kawasaki Racing, Falcons, Pelicans
So the gangsta known as Jorge Lorenzo recently showed off his crib via one of his sponsors (I'll let you guess which one), til the video got pulled off the 'tube. But you can still see it here. Fairly similar to my own joint really...
No but WADA was.
No but WADA was.