Analysis 2014 Sub Selection

[efcboy]

Ultimately the problem will always be that if someone is a really good sub, then they'll be part of the starting 21. There'll always be consistency issues with whoever the 22nd player is in a given week, whether that be due to niggles, attitude, etc. While the rule adds nothing, it's existence means the AFL won't implement other ideas for the time being, which is a good thing.

I think we have shown you can pick a good sub not in the best 21 when NLM and Colyer in the past performed the role well

Guys like Edwards and Rayner could be effective good subs who are not in the best 21.

 

[rines]

I think we have shown you can pick a good sub not in the best 21 when NLM and Colyer in the past performed the role well

Guys like Edwards and Rayner could be effective good subs who are not in the best 21.

Raynor relies on gut running too.. so not sure.

Edwards def. worth at try in the role imho.

 

[Essendonia]

We haven't had the best sub selection this year.

 

[Kakkle]

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[Essendonia]

We need to stop thinking in terms of best-22, and rather best-21.

It is not unreasonable for the sub to be someone outside the 21. If someone is on the verge of selection for the 21, they should be playing full matches each week, not having match fitness and form curtailed by playing as sub.

The sub should be used for best-21 players returning from injury, or best 25-30 players who are capable of making an impact in 20-40 mins of match play.

Where possible, subs should be players who can be thrown into the midfield to either win clearances or burn on the outside, AND give relief to those mids already on the field.

 

[Kakkle]

Paul Chapman should take up the mantle of being the ''Super Sub'' next year, similar to how GIA was used this year to varying levels of success. Come on with fresh legs, get your 10 disposals, 3 tackles and a goal.

 

[Rack Watts]

Under Hird the selection of sub was far better. We'd regularly see:

• Jetta - pace, goal sense, run and carry.

I am Jetta's biggest supporter on here, and goal sense isn't his strength.
He's a midfielder, and probably not at AFL level, with his lack of marking ability.

 

[lenny2013]

The sub is a specialist position and we really need to have players on the list who can play the role well.

prerequisites for the sub imo are:
-Be utility player (can play 2 to of the following forward, midfield, backline).
-Be a impact player.
-Have prior experience at impacting a AFL game before.
-Leadership qualities would be a big bonus in this role.

Unfortunately Licha is retiring because he would of been the perfect sub specialist for us in the 2015 season in a similar role to what Gia played for the dogs, I know the role is loathed by the players but in my mind it is better suited to an experienced player rather than the debutant who's on the fringe for selection.

 

[daffo]

We tried Jetta as the sub. It didn't work that well.

 

[Kakkle]

The sub is a specialist position and we really need to have players on the list who can play the role well.

prerequisites for the sub imo are:
-Be utility player (can play 2 to of the following forward, midfield, backline).
-Be a impact player.
-Have prior experience at impacting a AFL game before.
-Leadership qualities would be a big bonus in this role.

Unfortunately Licha is retiring because he would of been the perfect sub specialist for us in the 2015 season in a similar role to what Gia played for the dogs, I know the role is loathed by the players but in my mind it is better suited to an experienced player rather than the debutant who's on the fringe for selection.

 

[Philzsay]

What are people's thoughts on recruiting an experienced player in their twilight years to specifically play as the sub 8 or 9 games a year?

For example offer Ryan O'Keefe a deal whereby they will make him sub most games with some full games as well. So he knows full well his main job/role is to be that experienced impact player.

 

[Kakkle]

What are people's thoughts on recruiting an experienced player in their twilight years to specifically play as the sub 8 or 9 games a year?

For example offer Ryan O'Keefe a deal whereby they will make him sub most games with some full games as well. So he knows full well his main job/role is to be that experienced impact player.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

What are people's thoughts on recruiting an experienced player in their twilight years to specifically play as the sub 8 or 9 games a year?

For example offer Ryan O'Keefe a deal whereby they will make him sub most games with some full games as well. So he knows full well his main job/role is to be that experienced impact player.

Maybe not ROK, but a quick player on the way out (Gia of two years ago) would be ideal.

 

[Doss]

Essendonia is spot on.

I don't think we've got our thinking in terms of the sub right yet. Needs to be thought of as 21+1, rather than 22.

 

[Ess_don]

Paul Chapman should take up the mantle of being the ''Super Sub'' next year, similar to how GIA was used this year to varying levels of success. Come on with fresh legs, get your 10 disposals, 3 tackles and a goal.

Not sure if others have you on ignore or whatever, but this is a ripper suggestion. Absolutely agree.
Clever, smart impact player that you can even throw in quick burst through the midfield for immediate effect.

But I also wont rule him out on playing full games too if he has a full preseason this year and if his body and mind is still fresh and raring to go.

 

[Beerfish]

Not sure if others have you on ignore or whatever, but this is a ripper suggestion. Absolutely agree.
Clever, smart impact player that you can even throw in quick burst through the midfield for immediate effect.

But I also wont rule him out on playing full games too if he has a full preseason this year and if his body and mind is still fresh and raring to go.

Would prefer the bolded. Maybe super sub in 2016.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Actually wouldn't mind our sub to be a defensive mid. So many close games this year, would love to be able to bring on fresh legs to shut down a danger man.

 

[Doss]

Would Chappy be agreeable to such a role, though?

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Don't get why we selected a half back flanker as sub yesterday.

 

[Kakkle]

Don't get why we selected a half back flanker as sub yesterday.

Who would you have picked?

4 disposals at 100% with 1 goal and a goal assist. Contributed fairly.

 

[eth-dog]

Don't get why we selected a half back flanker as sub yesterday.

He's a midfielder with a flanker's tank

 

[eth-dog]

So this year has been pretty shit again (found this looking for the forward line thread).

Howlett, Ashby, Ashby, Hams, Hams, Gleeson, Howlett, Dempsey, Gleeson, Chapman, Gleeson, Kavanagh

The only good selection as sub for me is Gleeson.

 

[JDavey]

So this year has been pretty shit again (found this looking for the forward line thread).

Howlett, Ashby, Ashby, Hams, Hams, Gleeson, Howlett, Dempsey, Gleeson, Chapman, Gleeson, Kavanagh

The only good selection as sub for me is Gleeson.

I think Howlett and Chapman both worked well as sub options. The one that continues to make the least sense is Kav.