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Problem being are we going to get a healthy list, been a issue now for a significant period.
- Apr 16, 2008
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None of those 10 would have helped the onslaught we saw last night no matter how much we hope it would.
We have a good team but not a team that dominates good teams. Injuries come and go but they are all part of sports.
We need to make some big big decisions at the end of 2024 to improve our list, not maintain it.
4flagsin5yrs
Premiership Player
of course they would have - it's the sum of pieces...
We wouldn't have had 5 or so blokes contributing diddly squat...
The weakest link thing... and we had several.
- Apr 16, 2008
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And that’s more on the players we continue to keep on the list than anything. We have a team made up of A graders and then C/D graders who show something sometimes but not nearly enough and frequent.
Cripps and our midfield are great and all and on their day can have massive games, but none really are anything like what we saw last night. They slaughtered our midfield and from then on it was over. Heck, Charlie spent more time in defence then he ever has.
The sooner we realise the midfield isn’t dynamic enough the sooner we can move forward.
Cripps, Walsh, Kennedy, Hewett, Pittonet/Tdk have all spent enough years together for us to know it works against good teams but it can become very slow and stagnant against top teams. We had no answers and it actually looked like a little league team out there scared. Our midfield actually looked old last night against a vibrant young brigade who were fearless.
The injuries are shit but they are what they are.
Supporters need to stop over rating Austin. The best late picks are Cottrel, Pittonet and newman. (Not Austin) There is no evidence he is addressing needs with fast mids and kpds. He needs to risk trading up in the draft
Is contracted to end of 2025.
If campbell is the onballer we need, put this years first on the table. Our window is only 2025, 2026, 2027.
- Sep 25, 2013
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Jordan Boyd was a great pick up, but overall I agree.
He has had 4 years to add to and refine the great foundation he was given and I’m not sure he has done that yet.
- Oct 4, 2015
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I agree it would have helped having them out there...
But the midfield is what got totally smashed. Sure, a fit and firing Cerra would have made some difference to that, but not much.
The biggest thing that will make a difference is the intent and attitude.
Blues from 2nd half of 2023 would not have had 50% tackles broken, that I can guarantee you.
He’s picked up Boyd, Cincotta, Hewett as an FA, and traded for Cerra. Our biggest need at the end of 2022 was endurance and carry, so he traded a third rounder for Acres, and drafted Ollie Hollands and Binns. And everyone, outside of Binns, were big parts of our run at the back end of last year. Traded a third rounder for Elijah Hollands too. Call that “overrated” all you want, he’s been sensational for our club
4flagsin5yrs
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Can't really argue but having Martin, Fogarty and Motlop stop the easy exits from from our F50.... which starts the whole ball rolling, right?
TDK and Charlie were bone lazy defensively last night - Fantasia and Durdin equally insipid.
That's where our game seems to have changed since Adelaide. Teams are getting out to easily cause our half forward line can't keep the ball inside 50. Fog, Motlop and Martin all help that. Our midfield zone also seems to be getting broken down too easily, which forces defenders up, and we get caught on the overlap
- Apr 20, 2006
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Mills and McCartin are better then any of our outs plus look at some of their reserves players. I think they would be better then we were
I was thinking that reading this … as
Mills and Parker were not playing who are the players we could target in the fringe for Sydney … good post dude
- Aug 16, 2009
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The longer Motlop is out, the better he gets.
We're crying out for two way, one touch mids - our fumbles & grassed handballs create pressure & good sides take advantage of it.
That & a second AFL quality KPD are really pressing needs.
We're crying out for two way, one touch mids - our fumbles & grassed handballs create pressure & good sides take advantage of it.
That & a second AFL quality KPD are really pressing needs.
Cincotta is a stopper. Acres is a great defensive wingman. Boyd does not carry the football. Cerra was the right target but 50/50 on output. Saad is a tick. Draftees I would only rate Motlop. Yes there are reasons but" overrated" is a more accurate description of Austin than "sensational". He needs to take risks this draft/trade period
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- Oct 4, 2015
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That's part of it... the other part is getting smashed out of the center in the third quarter it was an absolute mauling...
I think we are getting another couple of outside mids in the Campo twins. We’ve gone with Hollands x 2 and Binns in the past two years. Not sure Campbell is that dissimilar to that lot - he doesn’t have explosive speed.
Another more established wingman would be nice as Ollie isn’t quite there yet.
Not sure if the campo boys will be ready to go. Someone like Windsor at the Dees would of been perfect for us
Agree Hollands is a wingman only. No true explosiveness. He needs more strength to make it. Binns is not convincing on multiple fronts
Jimmae
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Ben is more inside these days and Lucas will probably start off HBF.
