3 Way Deal Rumor

[Spiz]

Hi,
heard some guy ring up on SEN this morning with a rumor.
Gardiner and draft pick to Carlton
Tarrant to Weagles
Nick Stevens to Collingwood.

Do we need him?
Great footy brain and good disposal but no legs.
Remember this is only a rumor, but even if it ain't true i'd like to know what people think anyway.

 

[Hadders]

Hi,
heard some guy ring up on SEN this morning with a rumor.
Gardiner and draft pick to Carlton
Tarrant to Weagles
Nick Stevens to Collingwood.

Do we need him?
Great footy brain and good disposal but no legs.
Remember this is only a rumor, but even if it ain't true i'd like to know what people think anyway.

We would be the massive losers out of that trade.

 

[Murray]

Hi,
heard some guy ring up on SEN this morning with a rumor.
Gardiner and draft pick to Carlton
Tarrant to Weagles
Nick Stevens to Collingwood.

Do we need him?
Great footy brain and good disposal but no legs.
Remember this is only a rumor, but even if it ain't true i'd like to know what people think anyway.

Yeah, and I heard Balme's reply.
Utter crap and not even worth giving it air time

 

[Spiz]

Yeah, and I heard Balme's reply.
Utter crap and not even worth giving it air time

I think he meant the actual rumor was crap, meaning that was the first he'd heard of it. Would they look at it though if the offer was made?
I personally am not too keen on Stevo but what i do know is that we are way over due to do something constructive during trade week. We always get linked to the big names but always fall through and they end up going somewhere else.

 

[Murray]

I think he meant the actual rumor was crap, meaning that was the first he'd heard of it. Would they look at it though if the offer was made?
I personally am not too keen on Stevo but what i do know is that we are way over due to do something constructive during trade week. We always get linked to the big names but always fall through and they end up going somewhere else.

Tarrant has a year to run on his contract.
He isn't going anywhere in 2007.

So, no, of course they wouldn't look at it

Why not just cut out the middle man and West Coast and Carlton trade with each other.
Why does it need to involve Collingwood?

 

[Spiz]

Tarrant has a year to run on his contract.
He isn't going anywhere in 2007.

So, no, of course they wouldn't look at it

Why not just cut out the middle man and West Coast and Carlton trade with each other.
Why does it need to involve Collingwood?

Because like i said before, we really need to do something this trade week. We need a couple of good midfielders, a second ruck and/or another tall defender.
What we don't need is another A Williams, Woey, Morrison etc etc etc like we've been doing for the last 15 years.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Because like i said before, we really need to do something this trade week. .

Yeah but something good, not something crap. Tarrant will be on the market for the right price - approx the equivalent of two top twenty picks. It will be a take it or leave it scenario, we are equally happy to hold on to him.

He's worse much more than Nick Stevens.

 

[Murray]

Because like i said before, we really need to do something this trade week. We need a couple of good midfielders, a second ruck and/or another tall defender.
What we don't need is another A Williams, Woey, Morrison etc etc etc like we've been doing for the last 15 years.

So who did we trade last year to get us from 15th to 5th.

That is where your argument fails.

The draft is the ONLY way to go for us - and here is a little secret not many people know
IT'S WORKING

 

[Spiz]

So who did we trade last year to get us from 15th to 5th.

That is where your argument fails.

The draft is the ONLY way to go for us - and here is a little secret not many people know
IT'S WORKING

Very true. But we still need one or two ready made players to get us there too.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

So who did we trade last year to get us from 15th to 5th.

That is where your argument fails.

The draft is the ONLY way to go for us - and here is a little secret not many people know
IT'S WORKING

We need to trade as well. But only if its value, and Tarrant for Stevens is not value.

It was our experienced players back from injury that got us to seventh (not fifth). Our draftees, while promising, have a long long way to go.

 

[FIGJAM]

I wouldn't trade Tarrant for anything under a too good to be true offer.

I reckon we should be looking to offload members of the Plod Squad, our one paced midfield, for mid-range draft picks.

Trading Tarrant for a decent, but aging mid would be stupid. I mean who the **** do we have for Stevens to kick the ball to if Tarrant's not there??

 

[WakeUpPies]

Hi,
heard some guy ring up on SEN this morning with a rumor.
Gardiner and draft pick to Carlton
Tarrant to Weagles
Nick Stevens to Collingwood.

Do we need him?
Great footy brain and good disposal but no legs.
Remember this is only a rumor, but even if it ain't true i'd like to know what people think anyway.

if that happens im going to go for carlton, which is like killing youself without killing youself

 

[lenny&carl]

I would like to trade Lonie... he improved this year and he's shown some versatility, and he carries the ball. All reasons why someone might give us something decent in a trade. but as with most of our midfielders, he's quite good but not good enough! (and he's a princess.) Lonie Holland O'bree Licuria Lockyer Burns... all good enough to get a game, but none of them are worldbeaters. And really, why shouldn't we have worldbeating midfielders? Sure, it's not so easy to get such guys, but it should be the top of our agenda. And keeping the same group of motr midfielders is a great way to guarantee it won't happen for a while.

Which of those other 5 guys are tradeable? Burns is a club legend, so can't trade him. O'bree is the one who played best this year, and who specialises in a needed skill, ie in&under, so not him. Licuria looks more prospective to us than to all the other teams who wouldn't want him, and he'll play better in 07 than draft pick 55 will. So not him.

Which leaves Lockyer and Hollland. They're both ok but not great. Maybe Holland is a very good tagger, I wouldn't know. But if he's only an ok one, then trade him. We can't fit him into the forward line or the back line really. Lockyer is either a versatile player or a bits&pieces player, depending on whether you think he's a 7/10 or a 5/10. that's handy I suppose, but lets get a lot more "awesome" and a lot less "handy." Somehow.

 

[PieLebo87]

Tarrant has a year to run on his contract.
He isn't going anywhere in 2007.

Since his contract DOES run out next year, wouldnt we want to get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing next year?
If Collingwood intended on keeping him, they would've shut EVERYONE up and given him a 1 year extension. That would also give them the option to offload him next season for something instead of for free.

 

[MarkT]

I wouldn't trade Tarrant for anything under a too good to be true offer.

To a point I agree but only IF he is going to get a fair bit more single minded about being a great footballer.

I reckon we should be looking to offload members of the Plod Squad, our one paced midfield, for mid-range draft picks.

Nice theory and I’ve been wishing we’d trade O’Bree and Lockyer for ages but realistically at their age and with their record we won’t get much.

Trading Tarrant for a decent, but aging mid would be stupid.

Agree.

I mean who the **** do we have for Stevens to kick the ball to if Tarrant's not there??

In theory, Rocca, Tarrant., Rusling, Cloke and a bit of Fras3er if we get a ruckman just as the other tall/marking options. The thing is, if we kick it to Tarrant it’s either up the ground and he still has to kick it one of these options or else he kicks a point anyway.

We have to test the market IMO but there is no point being anxious seller. At the end of the day a failed attempt to sell might just be a Fevola type catalyst.

 

[MarkT]

So who did we trade last year to get us from 15th to 5th.

That is where your argument fails.

The draft is the ONLY way to go for us - and here is a little secret not many people know
IT'S WORKING

If all you do is draft better than the average you don’t get anywhere - at least not anywhere near far enough. You get the odd decent player but you never get a big influx and even if you do you don’t get a balanced list in terms of age and positional coverage.

As for your first point all I can say is 5th (and it was really 7th anyway) is not good enough. Drafting has actually taken us from 2nd to 7th. Injury recovery took us from 15th to 7th. Surely you believe that given you were one of the ones who steadfastly claimed we only finished 15th due t a massive injury toll?

We are all on the same side but I think we have different views on how to get to the flag. I hope we at least agree on the destination.

To beat 15 other clubs you have to draft and trade exceptionally well. Even then you have to manage the list with culling etc very well.

 

[Coin_Toss]

Hahahaha... tell me I'm day dreaming

Tarrant is entering his prime, we'd be stupid to trade him.

 

[sproulie]

we need nick stevens or players like him.

we need quality mids.

simple as that.

and, you have to give something to get something.

 

[Pienight]

we need nick stevens or players like him.

we need quality mids.

simple as that.

and, you have to give something to get something.

Mids are easier and quicker to develop than keys... theres a reason the best side in the league lost the grand final last year

 

[Pie 4 Life]

No way. Never going to happen.

 

[dumesny1]

We wouldn't trade Didak for him.
We won't trade Tarrant for him.









We better not anyway.

 

[magpies42]

chuck a quality pick in there lets say second round and id be happy.
or pick 7 for our pick 10 or something liek that

 

[doppleganger]

no chance

fully fit & firing taz is worth more to a team then a fully fit & firing stevens.

question is can taz get his body healthy, ie no shin splints or poor knees?? If he cant try off load him now, if he can get to full health he is a weapon, watch miller's game for the dees last night, that is how taz should play as a hit up HF, getting 12+ marks a game a then thumping it in to Rocca, T.Cloke & Buckley

Stevens is a good midfielder, but nothing special. Not somebody whom u would give up one of our potential trumps to get!

 

[ant22]

I am not a big rap for stevens, I was dissapointed when we did not get him but after watching him a little more closely since then he is one of the biggest cats in the comp. He wins plenty of the ball and has good skills but rarely takes blokes on and get a stack of cheap kicks. This is not what we need.

Having said that lets not kid ourselves about taz either. Most of our supporters(including many on this board) serisouly overrate his value or atleast what he has given us. He has been on the list for something like 7/8 years. He has had 1 outstanding season(2003) 1 or 2 decent seasons and the rest have been very dissapointing. He is one of the worst pressure shots for goal in the comp and the gap between good and bad is like the grand canyon.
Sure he has had some injuries and the ball hasn't exactly been pin point but at the end of the day if we are going to talk about what is fair and reasonable lets be realistic in valueing our own.
What a club would get with Taz is a player with big talent but very little realiability. If the club would only except an In your dreams trade then he won't be traded. North made a massive mistake in taking an unrealiable player last year who has big talent and it has bit them in the AR$E and i cannot see any club making the same mistake this year.

 

[FadeAway]

Hi,
heard some guy ring up on SEN this morning with a rumor.
Gardiner and draft pick to Carlton
Tarrant to Weagles
Nick Stevens to Collingwood.

Do we need him?
Great footy brain and good disposal but no legs.
Remember this is only a rumor, but even if it ain't true i'd like to know what people think anyway.

If we are going to get a midfilder we need a FAST midfielder, not a turtle....they can keep stevens...he is a HACK!