Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[DropBearess]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

 

[Percel]

Are you Matt Wright??

Hahaha, oh gawd no, he’s a naughty boy

 

[Earls Smother]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

If there is any truth to that, I would assume the police would take great interest in the drone footage from the area where the sheep were being tended to (re any changes in topography).

That of course, relies on accurate information as to where they actually were. The sheep themselves would presumably be in roughly the same place over the following days, but that doesn't confirm that's where the humans were.

 

[31550]

If there is any truth to that, I would assume the police would take great interest in the drone footage from the area where the sheep were being tended to (re any changes in topography).

That of course, relies on accurate information as to where they actually were. The sheep themselves would presumably be in roughly the same place over the following days, but that doesn't confirm that's where the humans were.

You are assuming there is drone footage (or any significant detailed aerial footage) of the property over successive days around the time of Gus's disappearance. I think the existence of such footage is highly unlikely. In the first few days, there may have been drones deployed, but they were focussed on looking for signs of Gus, not capturing detailed topography for future reference. And they would only have covered a small area. It's highly unlikely there is any photographic (or other) confirmation of the whereabouts of the other people on the property on GF day at all.

 

[Earls Smother]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

This is your post from Oct 10. Post #330

I have heard from a usually reliable source (definitely not social media) that Gus was in the sole custody of his grandparents. His mother was not allowed to see him, yet was at the property when he disappeared. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts

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[Earls Smother]

You are assuming there is drone footage (or any significant detailed aerial footage) of the property over successive days around the time of Gus's disappearance. I think the existence of such footage is highly unlikely. In the first few days, there may have been drones deployed, but they were focussed on looking for signs of Gus, not capturing detailed topography for future reference. And they would only have covered a small area. It's highly unlikely there is any photographic (or other) confirmation of the whereabouts of the other people on the property on GF day at all.

Yes, it is an assumption.

But wasn't it stated that the army had been used to map out a huge area via drone footage? Then the analysts needed a significant amount of time to assess it?

They are not going to have before and after shots, but they knew that from the beginning. They would be looking for signs of disturbed ground or anything that may indicate Gus had been there. Someone on another site showed that this technology can pick up the slightest abnormalities very effectively.

 

[31550]

But wasn't it stated that the army had been used to map out a huge area via drone footage? Then the analysts needed a significant amount of time to assess it?

I think it was more of a "suggestion" that this might be possible. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that this has been done in this case.

 

[31550]

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

Mustering would be a regular requirement in spring as it's a main joining period. Late afternoon (and early morning) when it is relatively cool would be optimal times for this activity. So, the alibi is perfectly reasonable and plausible IMO. Not sure about taking an infant with you while mustering, but there may have been reasons for that. Probably would have made more sense for the whole family to be in the muster location at that time so somebody could watch the kids while the others mustered. It's all a bit vague as to why Gus was left with one grandparent, and the younger child was taken mustering.

 

[passball]

Are you Matt Wright??

Hahaha, oh gawd no, he’s a naughty boy

Haha.
And whats the first thing i see and read in the news this morning?

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/huge-twist-in-crocodile-wrangler-case/news-story/4ae0780b67823ff8d1e5ef2eff3cb94b

 

[passball]

Mustering would be a regular requirement in spring as it's a main joining period. Late afternoon (and early morning) when it is relatively cool would be optimal times for this activity. So, the alibi is perfectly reasonable and plausible IMO. Not sure about taking an infant with you while mustering, but there may have been reasons for that. Probably would have made more sense for the whole family to be in the muster location at that time so somebody could watch the kids while the others mustered. It's all a bit vague as to why Gus was left with one grandparent, and the younger child was taken mustering.

Wasn't Gus and his brother at home with Shannon?
Did i miss something?

 

[CodyRose]

If there is any truth to that, I would assume the police would take great interest in the drone footage from the area where the sheep were being tended to (re any changes in topography).

That of course, relies on accurate information as to where they actually were. The sheep themselves would presumably be in roughly the same place over the following days, but that doesn't confirm that's where the humans were.

Maybe the shearer's/workers could say where the sheep were before they left. I read all the workers were gone by the Friday before the AFL.

 

[CodyRose]

Mustering would be a regular requirement in spring as it's a main joining period. Late afternoon (and early morning) when it is relatively cool would be optimal times for this activity. So, the alibi is perfectly reasonable and plausible IMO. Not sure about taking an infant with you while mustering, but there may have been reasons for that. Probably would have made more sense for the whole family to be in the muster location at that time so somebody could watch the kids while the others mustered. It's all a bit vague as to why Gus was left with one grandparent, and the younger child was taken mustering.

The younger child Ronnie was left at the homestead according to the police with Gran Shannon. Gus was allegedly playing outside the homestead, in a dirt pile. According to the family's narrative, the only family members working with the sheep were Gran Josie and Gus's mum. No mention of if the pair also took the four dogs with them to the sheep. No information available as to whether they drove, motor biked, walked or rode horses to the sheep.

 

[Curious Clues]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

If the grandparents were also foster parents wouldn’t their names be anonymous and their faces pixelated like William Tyrrell’s foster parents?

And didn’t some reports say Josie and Jess were 10 kms away looking for lost sheep? How do you know sheep are lost if the flock is 10 kms away? Or could that imply they took longer than usual tending to the sheep because when out there 10 kms away they discovered some sheep were lost? How do we really know it was Josie and Jess and not Josie and Shannon? Or Jess and Shannon? It’s all just their word I guess. But we are supposed to believe little Gus just vanished without a trace.

 

[winyhill]

It's all a bit vague as to why Gus was left with one grandparent, and the younger child was taken mustering.

When was that reported, all the reporting I have seen was that one grandmother was babysitting both children while the other grandmother and the mother were out working on the property. I think fixing fences was mentioned.

I have heard from a usually reliable source (definitely not social media) that Gus was in the sole custody of his grandparents. His mother was not allowed to see him, yet was at the property when he disappeared. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

That has never been reported at all. So unlikely to be true. And from DM accounts, the younger child is with her now.

Not saying that DM is reliable, but no-one else is reporting anything.

 

[passball]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

Is that maybe why Gus's mum is absent in this whole thing?
Protected?
What's Allana Smith up to atm?

 

[Collie_wobbles]

If the grandparents were also foster parents wouldn’t their names be anonymous and their faces pixelated like William Tyrrell’s foster parents?

And didn’t some reports say Josie and Jess were 10 kms away looking for lost sheep? How do you know sheep are lost if the flock is 10 kms away? Or could that imply they took longer than usual tending to the sheep because when out there 10 kms away they discovered some sheep were lost? How do we really know it was Josie and Jess and not Josie and Shannon? Or Jess and Shannon? It’s all just their word I guess. But we are supposed to believe little Gus just vanished without a trace.

From my understanding if foster/kinship was true then media would've been prohibited from publishing any names of family members. They are covered under the Children and Young People (Safety) Act 2017 IMO

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/__legislation/lz/c/a/children%2520and%2520young%2520people%2520(safety)%2520act%25202017/current/2017.25.auth.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjS28fbmP2QAxVtR2wGHYMtKkcQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Wim2nZ1DcU5IhUyI384i5

 

[Wallace52]

from DM accounts, the younger child is with her now.

Not saying that DM is reliable, but no-one else is reporting anything.

That’s not actually correct. No one knows where Jessie or Ronnie are.

Do you have a link to support your statement, winyhill?

 

[31550]

From my understanding if foster/kinship was true then media would've been prohibited from publishing any names of family members.

Doesn't make sense to me. The purpose of anonymity is to protect the identity of the child. But Gus Lamont's name is in every paper. One can only assume that if Gus is under a foster care arrangement then it is purely voluntary, and not court-ordered. So the Department of Child Services (whatever it's called in SA) have no specific jurisdiction or involvement, and neither do the courts.

 

[winyhill]

l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

One can only assume that if Gus is under a foster care arrangement then it is purely voluntary, and not court-ordered. So the Department of Child Services (whatever it's called in SA) have no specific jurisdiction or involvement, and neither do the courts.

I think we can rule out foster care, as the second quote says.
The faces of the foster parents and names and faces of parents have not been subject to non-publication.

 

[CodyRose]

If the grandparents were also foster parents wouldn’t their names be anonymous and their faces pixelated like William Tyrrell’s foster parents?

And didn’t some reports say Josie and Jess were 10 kms away looking for lost sheep? How do you know sheep are lost if the flock is 10 kms away? Or could that imply they took longer than usual tending to the sheep because when out there 10 kms away they discovered some sheep were lost? How do we really know it was Josie and Jess and not Josie and Shannon? Or Jess and Shannon? It’s all just their word I guess. But we are supposed to believe little Gus just vanished without a trace.

Great point about the non-pixelated faces. Are the fostering departments under state or commonwealth laws? Is it blanket suppression of identify or depends on the state/territory?

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[CodyRose]

That’s made my night.


“A combined search of the area was undertaken using police vehicles, police aircraft and with the assistance of Northern Territory Parks and Wildlife,” a police spokesperson said.

“NT Police search and rescue thank the public for their assistance and remind Territorians and visitors of the importance of sharing travel plans with family or friends when exploring remote areas of the Northern Territory.”

The couple are reportedly unharmed and have been reunited with their family.”

How scary for their families. I’m so very glad they are ok. It’s a very unforgiving part of Australia, environment-wise.

It’s interesting that they used the assistance of the public, well not interesting, it’s kind of normal.

And in Gus Lamont’s case, the police and family of the person missing don’t need our help. IMO

It’s a bit weird.

In a remote area usually everyone's eyes and ears are welcomed.

 

[Kurve]

It’s interesting that they used the assistance of the public, well not interesting, it’s kind of normal.

And in Gus Lamont’s case, the police and family of the person missing don’t need our help. IMO

They were travelling on public roads and in tourist parks towing a caravan, of course it's kind of normal the police would ask the public if anybody's seen them.

They're two totally different situations.

 

[Kurve]

Great point about the non-pixelated faces. Are the fostering departments under state or commonwealth laws? Is it blanket suppression of identify or depends on the state/territory?

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It can be an informal voluntary arrangement. It's not the same as a formal arrangement with government intervention.

 

[Kurve]

This is a reminder that to this point there is no suggestion by the police that any of Gus's family were involved in his disappearance and engage with that in mind. Be careful, please.

Thanks.