A quiz question

[Ned Ryerson]

What was Alec Albiston able to do that no other Hawthorn captain has done since?

 

[moginie]

I couldn't remember Shane Murphy at all. Went back and looked at the stats. Can anyone remember if he got injured in the 1978 SF against North or whether he was dropped for Norm Goss in the GF? Either way, that SF was the last game he ever played for us.

 

[RustyHawk]

I couldn't remember Shane Murphy at all. Went back and looked at the stats. Can anyone remember if he got injured in the 1978 SF against North or whether he was dropped for Norm Goss in the GF? Either way, that SF was the last game he ever played for us.

Wouldn't it have been the other way around. With Goss unavailable for the SF and then available for GF wouldn't a fringe player like Murphy make way?

From memory he was speedster. Maybe in looks somewhat similar to Darren Pritchard... if memory serves me correct.

 

[seysearles]

I bet it's the best in the comp if you put a criteria of say 5 or 10 minimum Grand Final appearances.

Adelaide
Players that have played in a grand final: 27
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 0
Ratio: ∞ (higher = better)

Brisbane
Players that have played in a grand final: 29
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 1
Ratio: 29

Carlton
Players that have played in a grand final: 273
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 92
Ratio: 2.97

Collingwood
Players that have played in a grand final: 341
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 163
Ratio: 2.09

Essendon
Players that have played in a grand final: 264
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 81
Ratio: 3.25

Fitzroy
Players that have played in a grand final: 113
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 11
Ratio: 10.27

Fremantle
Players that have played in a grand final: 22
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 22
Ratio: 1

Geelong
Players that have played in a grand final: 186
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 59
Ratio: 3.15

Gold Coast
Players that have played in a grand final: 0
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 0
Ratio: 0

GWS
Players that have played in a grand final: 0
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 0
Ratio: 0

Hawthorn
Players that have played in a grand final: 152
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 13
Ratio: 11.69

Melbourne
Players that have played in a grand final: 177
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 49
Ratio: 3.61

North Melbourne
Players that have played in a grand final: 94
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 33
Ratio: 2.85

Port Adelaide
Players that have played in a grand final: 34
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 12
Ratio: 2.83

Richmond
Players that have played in a grand final: 183
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 59
Ratio: 3.1

St Kilda
Players that have played in a grand final: 103
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 83
Ratio: 1.24

Sydney/South Melbourne
Players that have played in a grand final: 194
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 100
Ratio: 1.94

West Coast
Players that have played in a grand final: 77
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 30
Ratio: 2.57

Bulldogs/Footscray
Players that have played in a grand final: 39
Players that have played in a losing grand final and not a winning one: 19
Ratio: 2.05

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Rankings:

• Adelaide ∞ (from 2 grand finals W2 L0)
• Brisbane 29 (from 4 grand finals W3 L1)
• Hawthorn 11.69 (from 19 grand finals W13 L6)
• Fitzroy 10.27 (from 13 grand finals W8 L5)
• Melbourne 3.61 (from 18 grand finals W12 L5 D1)
• Essendon 3.25 (from 30 grand finals W16 L14 D1)
• Geelong 3.15 (from 18 grand finals W9 L9)
• Richmond 3.1 (from 22 grand finals W10 L12)
• Carlton 2.97 (from 29 grand finals W16 L13)
• North Melbourne 2.85 (from 10 grand finals W4 L5 D1)
• Port Adelaide 2.83 (from 2 grand finals W1 L1)
• West Coast 2.57 (from 6 grand finals W3 L3)
• Collingwood 2.09 (from 43 grand finals W15 L26 D2)
• Bulldogs/Footscray 2.05 (from 2 grand finals W1 L1)
• Sydney/South Melbourne 1.94 (from 16 grand finals W5 L11)
• St Kilda 1.24 (from 8 grand finals W1 L6 D1)
• Fremantle 1 (from 1 grand finals W0 L1)
• Gold Coast 0 (from 0 grand finals W0 L0)
• GWS 0 (from 0 grand finals W0 L0)

 

[moginie]

Wouldn't it have been the other way around. With Goss unavailable for the SF and then available for GF wouldn't a fringe player like Murphy make way?

From memory he was speedster. Maybe in looks somewhat similar to Darren Pritchard... if memory serves me correct.

Thanks mate. That would make sense. He didn't get a touch in that last game, but I suppose he could have been on the interchange bench for most of that time.

 

[moginie]

What was Alec Albiston able to do that no other Hawthorn captain has done since?

Play an instrument on a recording of our club song?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Play on a recording of our club song?

Quite possibly! Not the answer I was looking for though.

 

[Stranglers]

What was Alec Albiston able to do that no other Hawthorn captain has done since?

Last captain / coach?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Last captain / coach?

Nope - Arthur did it after him.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

Left to go another club?
Wear the number 1?
Captain Victoria in State of Origin?

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

What was Alec Albiston able to do that no other Hawthorn captain has done since?

Tough question! Hard to get much information from the 40's.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Clue is - every other captain since have something in common.

 

[moginie]

Has it got anything to do with Col Austen leaving the club?

 

[savagelunchbox]

Clue is - every other captain since have something in common.

The last bald(ing) captain?

 

[seysearles]

The last bald(ing) captain?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

The last bald(ing) captain?

Not if Lewis gets his hands on the captaincy!

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Has it got anything to do with Col Austen leaving the club?

In a way that is linked to the answer - yes.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

All the captains that followed were 1 vfl/afl club players (Hawthorn)?

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

What was Alec Albiston able to do that no other Hawthorn captain has done since?

Play at 2 different vfl/afl clubs?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Bingo! Pretty amazing that for over 65 years all of our captains have been one club players.

 

[BullyWee]

Wouldn't it have been the other way around. With Goss unavailable for the SF and then available for GF wouldn't a fringe player like Murphy make way?

From memory he was speedster. Maybe in looks somewhat similar to Darren Pritchard... if memory serves me correct.

He was a small half forward, quick, but maybe too small.

I met him years later. He had a successful career in insurance.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

Bingo! Pretty amazing that for over 65 years all of our captains have been one club players.

Another reason why we are such a great club. Loyalty works both ways (club and player). I think we have transitioned our captains extremely well. Can't see Mitchell or Hodge going elsewhere either so this tricky trivia question will live on!