Aggression

[Reginald Perrin]

Are we losing it?

Last week against Collingwood, I noticed with some disappointment that Adam McPhee had the ideal opportunity to iron out (fairly) Dayne Swan as he was kicking Collingwood's first goal, but he just didn't seem to have any desire to lay the bump. It would have been a perfect way to set the tone for the game, may have actually prevented the goal, and if it adversely affected how much impact Swan had on the remainder of the game that would have been a huge bonus.

I think Harvey would have been livid, how do you think Lyon sees this aspect of football as it fits into his game style?

It would be great to have a clip of it for those who missed it in the game. Any tech savvy videophiles out there willing to take up the challenge?

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

No. See Nick Lower.
It was probably a missed opportunity. McPhee usually lines them up well.

 

[malpaso]

Did we ever have it? I think it only exists for us in a derby.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Did we ever have it? I think it only exists for us in a derby.

We once had a tough edge, briefly. Even derbies don't seem to have the intensity they once did.

 

[prattsta]

We once had a tough edge, briefly. Even derbies don't seem to have the intensity they once did.

I remember us having a 'willing to do stupid things and get suspended' edge, never a 'tough' edge though.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

if anything, ross is demanding greater aggression, hence why duffield has been collecting his thoughts in the WAFL.

 

[holy diver]

Nick Lower's bump on Goldsack I think it was is evidence that it is still there in the team. McPhee is another one that can lay a decent bump. Clancee can dish it out as well.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

So what are the thoughts on McPhee not crunching Swan? Too early in the game to risk inuring himself?

 

[malpaso]

So what are the thoughts on McPhee not crunching Swan? Too early in the game to risk inuring himself?

I think your trying to create something when there's nothing there.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

I think your trying to create something when there's nothing there.

Possibly, but I think if you have the opportunity to take the opposition's best player out early in a game you're obligated to do it. Perhaps I'm being harsh and McPhee didn't think he could make the bump in time for it not to be called late. To me it looks like he just didn't try hard enough.

http://www.gameanalyser.afl.com.au/...1402&eventType=Goal&seek=378&videoQuality=med

 

[Arcassius]

I think your trying to create something when there's nothing there.

Nothing new from tinfoil-hat Reggie

 

[Outshined]

Yeh, I don't think there's much in this. McPhee as well as a few others have ironed out opposition players throughout the year. Our contested possession (admittedly not directly related to aggression) has also improved.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Nothing new from tinfoil-hat Reggie

You don't think this is new?

Feel free to have an opinion on the subject of the thread anytime you like.

 

[holy diver]

The evidence is there to say we still have aggression in the team. Not mentioned yet is Mzungu who can also lay a good hard bump occasionally. Same with de Boer. We have players with some mongrel that like it rough (sounds zesty).
Fear that's aggression is not in the team is unfounded. Non-issue.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Yeah, put a big hit on after he's kicked the ball, let's give away another goal.......

 

[bfff]

I don't think he could of "ironed out" Swan. He was not close enough, Swan is fast and would shrug off most bumps anyway.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Yeah, put a big hit on after he's kicked the ball, let's give away another goal.......

Looks to me like he had plenty of time to hit him as he kicked, perhaps even before. If that's the standard that's acceptable to the team, we're never likely to go far in finals.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Whatever you say Reg.

You're shovelling shit uphill with this one mate.

 

[believe_it]

Looked a fraction late to bump him but reckon if he had dived might have made a smother.

I find it infuriating when players try to bump opponents and miss instead of laying a tackle. It looks good when it comes off but it's low percentage. If you can bump an opponent you can tackle them . Anything but spot-on contact when performing a bump will put you off balance and out of a contest for long enough for the ball to be cleared by the opposition.

 

[sportsmaniac89]

Having had a look at the replay twice, to me, it looks like McPhee did slow up quickly however I think that was more because he didn't want to give away a second shot at goal.

If it was for lack of effort as you suggest Reg, McPhee would be borderline dropped for it but I expect him to be in the team this weekend so really, it wasn't lack of effort or aggression.

 

[holy diver]

So essentially one alleged missed bump = no more aggression in the team. Is that the argument?

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

So essentially one alleged missed bump = no more aggression in the team. Is that the argument?

yeah, it's an anomaly that's been isolated and used indicatively as something symptomatic.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Ok, looks like the general consensus is that McPhee did enough.

I'm obviously a harsher critic than the rest of you because I expected more.

 

[Righteo]

Just wait till Dawson gets back, boy loves putting the hurt on. With him, De boer, Lower, Pearce, McPhee, Mayne and Ballantyne in the team I don't think physicality has been lacking at all, just our skill level that lets us down.

 

[Righteo]

So essentially one alleged missed bump = no more aggression in the team. Is that the argument?

Certainly appears so bowie.